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She's possibly the stupidest (or most disingenuous, take your pick) senator there is, and I would have said that 6 months ago also. She'll believe literally anything anyone tells her - like the FBI investigation was very thorough or that Kavanaugh won't vote to overrule Roe.

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You must not be familiar with Patty Murray. But in terms of Collins, the hawt takes are that this cements her legacy somehow. :dunno: Not for me. I remember her letting Clinton off, her defense of Planned Parenthood and steadfastness in voting to keep Obamacare. It was a speech of a quality I didn't expect from her, that's for sure.
 
Besides money in politics, the fact that politics is treated like a sport to win, with only 2 teams to root for, is one of our nation's biggest problems.

So, 30 teams then?
 
You must not be familiar with Patty Murray. But in terms of Collins, the hawt takes are that this cements her legacy somehow. :dunno: Not for me. I remember her letting Clinton off, her defense of Planned Parenthood and steadfastness in voting to keep Obamacare. It was a speech of a quality I didn't expect from her, that's for sure.

Collins is gone in November
 
You must not be familiar with Patty Murray. But in terms of Collins, the hawt takes are that this cements her legacy somehow. :dunno: Not for me. I remember her letting Clinton off, her defense of Planned Parenthood and steadfastness in voting to keep Obamacare. It was a speech of a quality I didn't expect from her, that's for sure.

Heh. I am not impressed with Patty Murray either.

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Well, I for one am glad to see this coming to a finish. Looks like the vote will pass, and people can get no to other things.
 
Well, I for one am glad to see this coming to a finish. Looks like the vote will pass, and people can get no to other things.

I consider it a win for the Constitution. The rest of the noisy was unnecessary and pretty much irrelevant given the task at hand.
 


Grassley came out and explained why no republican women were on the committee and his reasoning was "it's a lot of work". WTF? They are definitely the party that still lives in the dark ages where they want women to stay home, raise kids and have the dinner on the table by 6:00pm and if they get raped, should just lay back and enjoy it.
Here are some other views.

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I consider it a win for the Constitution. The rest of the noisy was unnecessary and pretty much irrelevant given the task at hand.

You couldn't give a crap about the constitution. You are one of the dark age republicans that can't see anything beyond your nose and would vote republican no matter the circumstances.
 
...oh, I know about the others, but they were never really in the race...but I would really like to see a moderate/independent strong enough to destroy the Dems and Reps in the POTUS election...Senate and House too for that matter.

You gotta know how to make that happen though.

A third party will never be viable until we change plurality voting.
 
Grassley came out and explained why no republican women were on the committee and his reasoning was "it's a lot of work". WTF? They are definitely the party that still lives in the dark ages where they want women to stay home, raise kids and have the dinner on the table by 6:00pm and if they get raped, should just lay back and enjoy it.
Here are some other views.

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The Laudenberg quote made me close my eyes. Involuntarily. And Lockman's made me verify that this shit was real:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/

These quotes alone have sapped me of hope for the day. See you guys later.
 
The Laudenberg quote made me close my eyes. Involuntarily. And Lockman's made me verify that this shit was real:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/

These quotes alone have sapped me of hope for the day. See you guys later.

It is rather depressing that there are those in charge of making laws and have those kind of warped views. Some of the southern evangelists have expressed similar sentiments as well.
 
I feel terrible not backing up the conservative side of this and I have plenty of problems with how the Democrats went about this. That said...

I saw his testimony and had a Susan Smith flashback. I knew she was lying the instant she spoke.

On the other hand I've come to the realization that he HAD to lie. I'd have said I drank a lot when I was a kid and may or may not have done what she said. And then I'd have been voted out.

I don't know if he did assault her and if he did I don't know if it was as bad as she claimed. I really don't. I suspect that he did.

I'm just sure as shit that he lied about drinking too much. My built in lie detector isn't proof though.
 
I feel terrible not backing up the conservative side of this and I have plenty of problems with how the Democrats went about this. That said...

I saw his testimony and had a Susan Smith flashback. I knew she was lying the instant she spoke.

On the other hand I've come to the realization that he HAD to lie. I'd have said I drank a lot when I was a kid and may or may not have done what she said. And then I'd have been voted out.

I don't know if he did assault her and if he did I don't know if it was as bad as she claimed. I really don't. I suspect that he did.

I'm just sure as shit that he lied about drinking too much. My built in lie detector isn't proof though.

...agreed. And Susan Collins evidently cut a deal with Trump.
 
You lost on November 8, 2016.
You lost again today, October 5, 2018.
According to the polls, you'll lose again on November 6, 2018.
Your bitterness and hysteria in defeat is understandable.



...according to "the polls" Clinton was suppose to have kicked the shit out of Trump in the '16 election. derp
 
...according to "the polls" Clinton was suppose to have kicked the shit out of Trump in the '16 election. derp
This. Though it's been interesting on 538 that the chances of the D's getting the house went from over 90% to 74% in the last couple of weeks. R's are now projected 77% of the time to keep the Senate. Those aren't using polls from after the 3rd, so it could be different. The logic has been that the R's pushing Kavanaugh through would help in the Senate and hurt in the House, but the trends (again: "polling") aren't showing that.

November's going to be interesting.
 
This. Though it's been interesting on 538 that the chances of the D's getting the house went from over 90% to 74% in the last couple of weeks. R's are now projected 77% of the time to keep the Senate. Those aren't using polls from after the 3rd, so it could be different. The logic has been that the R's pushing Kavanaugh through would help in the Senate and hurt in the House, but the trends (again: "polling") aren't showing that.

November's going to be interesting.

Except that's now and not over a month from now. Republicans got revved up over the possibility of losing this judge and now will likely get him voted in thus they get what they wanted and will likely create a more relaxed atmosphere when it comes time to actually vote. In the mean time the Dems will be fired up for this guy getting confirmed and along with that and the women being upset from all sides could result in a big turnout and a blue wave.
 
"You lost on November 8, 2016.
You lost again today, October 5, 2018.
According to the polls, you'll lose again on November 6, 2018.
Your bitterness andhysteria in defeat is understandable."

And herein lies the problem with this country...
It's not a game...

Just like I said y'all... It's really sad TBH... :sad:

Besides money in politics, the fact that politics is treated like a sport to win, with only 2 teams to root for, is one of our nation's biggest problems.

um, Perhaps you are catching on.

Perhaps it's you that's catching on to the fact that I've known all along? ;)
 
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