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Charcoal Filtered said:
As yuy said, more than one person is saying that there is one GM that will panic and take on that mega contract.

Kevin Love for Ryan Anderson plus picks works under the trade tracker. Think Houston would not jump on that?
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As @PtldPlatypus stated above though, he can't be traded for 6 months now.

Think about it though, you don't think the Rockets would offer Anderson and picks for him without the extension?
 
hoopsjock said:
As @PtldPlatypus stated above though, he can't be traded for 6 months now.

Think about it though, you don't think the Rockets would offer Anderson and picks for him without the extension?
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It may be more attractive since there will be many teams with cap space and no one to spend it on in 2019. Houston could have been forced to pay even more to retain him.
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
It may be more attractive since there will be many teams with cap space and no one to spend it on in 2019. Houston could have been forced to pay even more to retain him.
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Huh? There are a ton of free agents in 2019. Look how many players signed one year deals this summer. Houston would trade Ryan Anderson and a pick for ANY player(s) in the league that has only one year left on his deal and wouldn't be able to contain their excitement about it. They'd have Love's bird rights and could sign him to the exact same extension after the trade (like they did when they acquired Harden). I'm not really understanding your point here?
 
hoopsjock said:
Huh? There are a ton of free agents in 2019. Look how many players signed one year deals this summer. Houston would trade Ryan Anderson and a pick for ANY player(s) in the league that has only one year left on his deal and wouldn't be able to contain their excitement about it. They'd have Love's bird rights and could sign him to the exact same extension after the trade (like they did when they acquired Harden). I'm not really understanding your point here?
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There are not going to be enough players to go around with the number of teams that have cap space. High end players are going to get multiple big contract offers. Houston has no cap space to obtain any of them and may prefer Love locked up instead of testing free agency.

For Cleveland, either tearing it down or trying to make the playoffs both fit with signing Love. If they plan to deal him, the return is probably about the same now as it will be in February. If they are trying to build with him, they avoided having to deal with him reaching free agency.
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
There are not going to be enough players to go around with the number of teams that have cap space. High end players are going to get multiple big contract offers. Houston has no cap space to obtain any of them and may prefer Love locked up instead of testing free agency.

For Cleveland, either tearing it down or trying to make the playoffs both fit with signing Love. If they plan to deal him, the return is probably about the same now as it will be in February. If they are trying to build with him, they avoided having to deal with him reaching free agency.
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Where are you getting that there is going to be all this money in 2019 and not enough players to go around? This is simply untrue. There is going to be more available than this summer but it's not going to be some absurd amount.

I get that the Cavs didn't want to deal with him in free agency and risk him leaving for nothing. What I don't agree with is a player like Love locked up for 5 years having more trade value than only having him for one year. I could maybe see that point if he signed a one, two, or possibly 3 year extension but Love already seems to be breaking down and he's about to turn 30. What team wants to pay him $30 million when he is 34?
 
hoopsjock said:
What team wants to pay him $30 million when he is 34?
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No team wants that. What they want is the best team they can get now while they have the players to win. Chris Paul is not going to be productive in the last years of his deal either.

Can run the numbers later but there might be as many as 10 teams that will have cap room for atleast one max contract:
 
I think it’s a smart move by Cleveland actually. You need to protect your assets and if nobody was willing to offer anything of value for Love this year, partly because of his contract situation, it’s better to extend him and try again in 6-12 months or just keep him as the centerpiece of the team for the foreseeable future.

If Clippers were able to trade Griffin for such package (I remember how some thought this was low value, it was an excellent deal for them) then Cleveland should be able to get something back for Love too. He’s a good player, worst case scenario they will trade him for two expirings and some average asset like a mid/late first or somewhat struggling young player.
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
No team wants that. What they want is the best team they can get now while they have the players to win. Chris Paul is not going to be productive in the last years of his deal either.

Can run the numbers later but there might be as many as 10 teams that will have cap room for atleast one max contract:
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In 2019? I can think of Clippers, Lakers, Nets, Dallas, Knicks, Kings, Indiana and Atlanta for sure. Chicago were going to be one but they probably won’t unless they renounce Parker. Nets and Clippers will actually have space for two max players, Knicks could also create two max slots with a little creativity.

Phoenix too, probably. It will be an interesting free agency, plenty of big market teams.
 
BBert said:
$30 million a year for the aging, oft-injured Kevin Love on a team that's going nowhere?

WTF?
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Watch them lose their top 10 Protected pick this year too. Ridiculous.
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
No team wants that. What they want is the best team they can get now while they have the players to win. Chris Paul is not going to be productive in the last years of his deal either.

Can run the numbers later but there might be as many as 10 teams that will have cap room for atleast one max contract:
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Are you purposely avoiding the question of how this gives him more value? He could've agreed to an extension if he liked the team he was going to.
 
hoopsjock said:
Are you purposely avoiding the question of how this gives him more value? He could've agreed to an extension if he liked the team he was going to.
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I already gave my view. You know that he would not have gotten the same extension immediately with his new team, correct?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q95

"Houston has no cap space to obtain any of them and may prefer Love locked up instead of testing free agency."

Also said how this works for Cleveland

"For Cleveland, either tearing it down or trying to make the playoffs both fit with signing Love. If they plan to deal him, the return is probably about the same now as it will be in February. If they are trying to build with him, they avoided having to deal with him reaching free agency."
 
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Scalma said:
FUCKING BULLSHIT of course this comes out now, see look everyone, Olshey tried.

Like CLOCKWORK.

Olshey has conned us all.
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Not me, I knew he was a Hwy 99 used car-salesman from day ONE. I have never said one good thing about him, I know plenty of people who have that same arrogant tone when they talk and they are all losers:)
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
So, appears Olshey was trying to get him; maybe Cleveland just not so smart or did Olshey not offer enough?http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/...rumors-lebron-james/ieplh5xshfod1mea86bb07r2y
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I think Olshey is offering a combination of Turner, Meyers and maybe Harkless for everyone who is available. Of course that deal won’t make any sense for anybody we try to offer it to but at least it prevents media from being under impression that he does nothing. It’s basically going around in circles and it will continue until their contracts are off the books (though I think he will extend Meyers in 2020).

Maybe he’s making Swanigan and Aminu available too. That’s pretty much it.
 
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