Krstic: Almost There

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

AGGiE

Watching The Nets
Joined
Nov 18, 2007
Messages
755
Likes
6
Points
18
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In his last blog of the season, Nenad Krstic says that he is nearly back from his torn ACL. “People who have had this injury have said it takes about 12-18 months to feel normal. Now I’m about 15 months in. I feel really good. Still, my game is not there,” says the 7-footer. Krstic admits the process this year has been “tough” and a lot of it has to do with conditioning…and confidence. “There were days that you just can’t move because you have heavy legs or something like that.”.</div>

The Season... - Nenad Krstic - New Jersey Nets

Apparently Nenad Krstic wasn't 100% yet, but he should be in the upcoming season if he decides to remain a player on the Nets.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AGGiE @ Apr 20 2008, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In his last blog of the season, Nenad Krstic says that he is nearly back from his torn ACL. “People who have had this injury have said it takes about 12-18 months to feel normal. Now I’m about 15 months in. I feel really good. Still, my game is not there,” says the 7-footer. Krstic admits the process this year has been “tough” and a lot of it has to do with conditioning…and confidence. “There were days that you just can’t move because you have heavy legs or something like that.”.</div>

The Season... - Nenad Krstic - New Jersey Nets

Apparently Nenad Krstic wasn't 100% yet, but he should be in the upcoming season if he decides to remain a player on the Nets.
</div>



Well take your time sweetheart its only been 2 FUCKINGGGGGGGGGGG YEARS!
Kick him to the curve already my goodness talk about softies..
 
At the beginning of the season, he said 'almost there'. At All-Star break he said 'almost there'.

Was he saving it for Serbia?
 
It'll be a shame if we let Nenad go and he becomes his former self with another franchise.
 
it's really easy to say you're back when you're not on the court but when you're on it and your soft ass dissapears, it's "I need more time"
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Apr 20 2008, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Watch him sign with the Knicks, and they come in second in the <s>Atlantic</s> Lottery.</div>

Fixed it for ya
 
Why all the hate on Krstic?
Before his injury he was seen as probably the lone bright spot on the Nets.

He gets an injury that is one of the most devastating in the NBA and is trying to come back. Hell, as he said, normal recovery takes up to 18 months.

And it's not like he was a perennial All-Star before the injury. He was a good player on a team with a thin front court. He comes back when the team went through hell, and is trying to get into the playoffs. He gets sent home because he came back too early and wasn't ready for the game. If he can keep from re injuring his legs this upcoming season, he could add significantly to NJ offense. He's also only 24.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 20 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why all the hate on Krstic?</div>

xenophobia
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 20 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why all the hate on Krstic?
Before his injury he was seen as probably the lone bright spot on the Nets.

He gets an injury that is one of the most devastating in the NBA and is trying to come back. Hell, as he said, normal recovery takes up to 18 months.

And it's not like he was a perennial All-Star before the injury. He was a good player on a team with a thin front court. He comes back when the team went through hell, and is trying to get into the playoffs. He gets sent home because he came back too early and wasn't ready for the game. If he can keep from re injuring his legs this upcoming season, he could add significantly to NJ offense. He's also only 24.</div>

Sober post! Sober analysis. Nenad wasn't tearing it up on D even before injury and people blame him for his softness now, after one of the most dangerous injuries in sports, that leaves its mental imprint on person' further activity. At this point I have mixed feelings: I want Nenad to stay and regain his form, but seeing this outburst of criticism I wouldn't mind him leaving and succeeding with another team just to shut all the haters up.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Apr 20 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 20 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why all the hate on Krstic?
Before his injury he was seen as probably the lone bright spot on the Nets.

He gets an injury that is one of the most devastating in the NBA and is trying to come back. Hell, as he said, normal recovery takes up to 18 months.

And it's not like he was a perennial All-Star before the injury. He was a good player on a team with a thin front court. He comes back when the team went through hell, and is trying to get into the playoffs. He gets sent home because he came back too early and wasn't ready for the game. If he can keep from re injuring his legs this upcoming season, he could add significantly to NJ offense. He's also only 24.</div>

Sober post! Sober analysis. Nenad wasn't tearing it up on D even before injury and people blame him for his softness now, after one of the most dangerous injuries in sports, that leaves its mental imprint on person' further activity. At this point I have mixed feelings: I want Nenad to stay and regain his form, but seeing this outburst of criticism I wouldn't mind him leaving and succeeding with another team just to shut all the haters up.
</div>



 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Apr 20 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 20 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why all the hate on Krstic?
Before his injury he was seen as probably the lone bright spot on the Nets.

He gets an injury that is one of the most devastating in the NBA and is trying to come back. Hell, as he said, normal recovery takes up to 18 months.

And it's not like he was a perennial All-Star before the injury. He was a good player on a team with a thin front court. He comes back when the team went through hell, and is trying to get into the playoffs. He gets sent home because he came back too early and wasn't ready for the game. If he can keep from re injuring his legs this upcoming season, he could add significantly to NJ offense. He's also only 24.</div>

Sober post! Sober analysis. Nenad wasn't tearing it up on D even before injury and people blame him for his softness now, after one of the most dangerous injuries in sports, that leaves its mental imprint on person' further activity. At this point I have mixed feelings: I want Nenad to stay and regain his form, but seeing this outburst of criticism I wouldn't mind him leaving and succeeding with another team just to shut all the haters up.
</div>


Yea he will definitely shut the haters up when he learns how to play defense and be more than a 7 footer who can hit jumpers. Those are dime a dozen.

J.J. Redick can score but he can't play defense. That is the reason he has been on the back of milk cartons.

Krstic is a good scoring but when you have players like Haslem and other players smaller than him bulling him in the paint it doesn't speak well.


So if any team wants to over pay for a player who doesn't improve on d will be just another bench player who had promise go ahead.

Yea he is coming back from an injury but he has not shown no reason why the nets should invest in him and say he is our future.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Apr 20 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 20 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why all the hate on Krstic?
Before his injury he was seen as probably the lone bright spot on the Nets.

He gets an injury that is one of the most devastating in the NBA and is trying to come back. Hell, as he said, normal recovery takes up to 18 months.

And it's not like he was a perennial All-Star before the injury. He was a good player on a team with a thin front court. He comes back when the team went through hell, and is trying to get into the playoffs. He gets sent home because he came back too early and wasn't ready for the game. If he can keep from re injuring his legs this upcoming season, he could add significantly to NJ offense. He's also only 24.</div>

Sober post! Sober analysis. Nenad wasn't tearing it up on D even before injury and people blame him for his softness now, after one of the most dangerous injuries in sports, that leaves its mental imprint on person' further activity. At this point I have mixed feelings: I want Nenad to stay and regain his form, but seeing this outburst of criticism I wouldn't mind him leaving and succeeding with another team just to shut all the haters up.
</div>

Some people here have a realistic view of Krstic. If he can get back to form he will help the Nets. That's worth taking a chance on a two or three year deal at $3 or 4 million per year.

I think some of the haters have delusions about their own significance. They think that their criticism is tough love that will force Krstic to realize he needs to work harder and become a better player. They think the more they trash him here on the Internet the more motivated he will become.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
But he keeps it real.
Krstic is a pussy. can you provide facts that he isnt one?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 20 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
But he keeps it real.
Krstic is a pussy. can you provide facts that he isnt one?
</div>
hmm lets see 1st off if i was a unathletic 7 footer coming off of a huge knee surgery i bet i would look like a pussy also, after just returning, give it time. Second If you happen to watch him play the 1st 2 years with the nets you would know Krstic isnt Shaq, but he isnt gonna be pushed around.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 20 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
But he keeps it real.
Krstic is a pussy. can you provide facts that he isnt one?
</div>
How does one prove that a player is not a pussy?
Pretty much the only way to 'prove' it would be if the player was involved in a fight. And even that method is severely flawed because it highlights the player's lack of intelligence more than his guts. For example, Carmelo was involved in a fight. Is he still a pussy? Hell yeah.
On the other hand, take David Robinson. The man wasn't involved in a fight ever, and is as model of a citizen as you can ever imagine. Want to call him a pussy?

There are no "facts". It's all opinions. And if by some misconception you think that all Krstic ever does is shoot 17 footers, here's a mix for you:
<div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value=""></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div>
Krstic is a very good offensive rebounder, and by no means did he ever shy away from contact.

Pre-injury, Krstic was a Chris Bosh light. But unlike on Raptors, he was never asked to carry the main offensive load as Bosh is. Bosh will continue failing because he's mostly a jump shooting big man who's the #1 option on offense.
Krstic, if he comes back healthy, can easily become the Nets' 3rd best player because he will be the 2nd or 3rd option on offense and never the first.

There's no way I'll give him a contract that's more than $4-5M and for more than 2, maybe 3 years. He's coming back from injury. He sounds like he's eager to prove himself. He should seriously think about accepting a 2 year deal at medium money. In 2 years if he works for it, he can establish himself as a great player (20-9?), and then he can actually command near max/max money.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Apr 20 2008, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Krstic is our best post scorer. If he's a pussy, so is everyone on our team.</div>

Well, as long as you understand that...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 20 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Apr 20 2008, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Krstic is our best post scorer. If he's a pussy, so is everyone on our team.</div>

Well, as long as you understand that...
</div>
lol
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
im sorry, im just sick of krstic saying "Im almost there" time and time again and as soon as a game starts, it's "I need more time".
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 21 2008, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
im sorry, im just sick of krstic saying "Im almost there" time and time again and as soon as a game starts, it's "I need more time".
</div>
Actually he's never said he's "almost there" as in reference to being the same player he was before.
What he said was that he's "healthy". There's a big difference between the same player you were pre-ACL injury and not experiencing pain during the game.

Seriously though, can you mention ONE player who had a major surgery and came back successfully in mid-season? He was completely out of shape, didn't know Frank's failure of "motion offense" and hadn't played in a year.

We'll see what kind of player he really is around early December. He'll play for the National team, he'll come in a little exhausted into TC. He'll become familiar with NJ offense/defense and will get into "NBA Shape" during the training camp. After 5-10 games he should be the same player he was before injury, maybe a bit better because he actually worked out.
If he still sucks then, throw him under a bus.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 21 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 21 2008, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
im sorry, im just sick of krstic saying "Im almost there" time and time again and as soon as a game starts, it's "I need more time".
</div>
Actually he's never said he's "almost there" as in reference to being the same player he was before.
What he said was that he's "healthy". There's a big difference between the same player you were pre-ACL injury and not experiencing pain during the game.

Seriously though, can you mention ONE player who had a major surgery and came back successfully in mid-season? He was completely out of shape, didn't know Frank's failure of "motion offense" and hadn't played in a year.

We'll see what kind of player he really is around early December. He'll play for the National team, he'll come in a little exhausted into TC. He'll become familiar with NJ offense/defense and will get into "NBA Shape" during the training camp. After 5-10 games he should be the same player he was before injury, maybe a bit better because he actually worked out.
If he still sucks then, throw him under a bus.
</div>

actually, he had 3/4 of a year and an entire offseason to get prepared. before our first game of the year, he said he was ready and if you recall, against the bulls, he played good. 5/5, 12 pts. looked promising but he slowly regressed and did not get better at all. he took a couple of weeks off mid season to prepare and said he was ready but came back and provided nothing. really, are we going to bank on him turning back into shape? what sign of improvment has he shown?

as ive said before, id be perfectly fine letting him go and drafting kevin love who provides the same thing krstic does....and else. guys like krstic are a dime a dozen. if his jumper isnt falling, he provides nothing else, passing, rebounding, shotblocking, defense... all areas he's never been good at.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 20 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Apr 20 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 20 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why all the hate on Krstic?
Before his injury he was seen as probably the lone bright spot on the Nets.

He gets an injury that is one of the most devastating in the NBA and is trying to come back. Hell, as he said, normal recovery takes up to 18 months.

And it's not like he was a perennial All-Star before the injury. He was a good player on a team with a thin front court. He comes back when the team went through hell, and is trying to get into the playoffs. He gets sent home because he came back too early and wasn't ready for the game. If he can keep from re injuring his legs this upcoming season, he could add significantly to NJ offense. He's also only 24.</div>

Sober post! Sober analysis. Nenad wasn't tearing it up on D even before injury and people blame him for his softness now, after one of the most dangerous injuries in sports, that leaves its mental imprint on person' further activity. At this point I have mixed feelings: I want Nenad to stay and regain his form, but seeing this outburst of criticism I wouldn't mind him leaving and succeeding with another team just to shut all the haters up.
</div>


Yea he will definitely shut the haters up when he learns how to play defense and be more than a 7 footer who can hit jumpers. Those are dime a dozen.

J.J. Redick can score but he can't play defense. That is the reason he has been on the back of milk cartons.

Krstic is a good scoring but when you have players like Haslem and other players smaller than him bulling him in the paint it doesn't speak well.


So if any team wants to over pay for a player who doesn't improve on d will be just another bench player who had promise go ahead.

Yea he is coming back from an injury but he has not shown no reason why the nets should invest in him and say he is our future.
</div>

I can't believe you're comparing Krstic to Redick. Krstic isn't one-dimensional like you try to make him out to be. Yes, he doesn't have great defense, but he's a multi-facted, talented scorer from the wings and the post, runs the fast break, and is a good rebounder. Redick is an undersized shooter, that's it. Absolutely terrible comparison.

And Haslem bullying him? Have you checked out his results vs Haslem for his career before you even said that?

2006-2007:

Regular Season vs Miami: 36:47 MPG 55.6 FG% 8.0 FTA 75.0 FT% 8.5 RPG 1.5 SPG 0.5 BPG 16.0 PPG

2005-2006:

Regular Season vs Miami: 29:30 MPG 31.0 FG% 2.3 FTA 71.4 FT% 6.0 RPG 0.3 SPG 1.3 BPG 7.7 PPG
Playoffs vs Miami: 32.20 MPG 43.1 FG% 3.2 FTA 62.5 FT% 6.4 RPG 0.2 SPG 1.0 BPG 10.8 PPG

2004-2005:

Regular Season vs Miami: 17:18 MPG 38.9 FG% 4.7 FTA 85.7 FT% 3.0 RPG 0.7 SPG 0.0 BPG 8.7 PPG
Playoffs vs Miami: 38:50 MPG 56.3 FG% 6.0 FTA 79.2 FT% 7.5 RPG 0.3 SPG 0.5 BPG 18.3 PPG

I'm not saying that Krstic will become defensive player of the year, but when healthy, he is a talented scorer and a pretty good rebounder, and nowhere near what you make him out to be.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 21 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 21 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 21 2008, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Apr 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>krstic is a 7 ft pussy</div>
You used too post quality post, everything that you post now is so negative...
</div>
im sorry, im just sick of krstic saying "Im almost there" time and time again and as soon as a game starts, it's "I need more time".
</div>
Actually he's never said he's "almost there" as in reference to being the same player he was before.
What he said was that he's "healthy". There's a big difference between the same player you were pre-ACL injury and not experiencing pain during the game.

Seriously though, can you mention ONE player who had a major surgery and came back successfully in mid-season? He was completely out of shape, didn't know Frank's failure of "motion offense" and hadn't played in a year.

We'll see what kind of player he really is around early December. He'll play for the National team, he'll come in a little exhausted into TC. He'll become familiar with NJ offense/defense and will get into "NBA Shape" during the training camp. After 5-10 games he should be the same player he was before injury, maybe a bit better because he actually worked out.
If he still sucks then, throw him under a bus.
</div>

actually, he had 3/4 of a year and an entire offseason to get prepared. before our first game of the year, he said he was ready and if you recall, against the bulls, he played good. 5/5, 12 pts. looked promising but he slowly regressed and did not get better at all. he took a couple of weeks off mid season to prepare and said he was ready but came back and provided nothing. really, are we going to bank on him turning back into shape? what sign of improvment has he shown?

as ive said before, id be perfectly fine letting him go and drafting kevin love who provides the same thing krstic does....and else. guys like krstic are a dime a dozen. if his jumper isnt falling, he provides nothing else, passing, rebounding, shotblocking, defense... all areas he's never been good at.
</div>
I'm not sure what you mean.
He didn't have an offseason to get prepared. The preseason game you referred to occurred in his 10th month back after surgery. A typical recovery takes between 12 and 18 months. Most players use off-season to relax and to get better. He spent it doing rehab for ACL. That's an exact opposite of relaxing and getting better.

He didn't take a couple of weeks off midseason. Nets sent him home for a couple of months because his conditioning was severely lacking. And as I said, he didn't say he was ready. He said that he'd like to play and that "he's 100% healthy". There's a difference between feeling 100% healthy and being ready to play in the NBA under his circumstances.

He's not supposed to show improvement at this point. As I said earlier, he came in knowing pretty much nothing about motion offense, having not played basketball since December of 2006 and in no physical or mental condition to play. Having a major injury does that to you.

Drafting in general is a question mark. If the Nets are actually able to move up in the draft, taking Kevin Love would be a mistake. If they don't move up, and actually draft Love and not trade him, that would mean that we're bringing the same team back as this year. And pretty much everyone wants a (near) major trade at this point. There's a good chance that the pick will be included in that trade (for Brand for example).

Regarding Kevin Love specifically, there's no proof that he'll be as good as Krstic. Krstic was projected to be an 18/8 player. He came close, posting 16.4/7 in 32 mins in 26 games he played that season. Kevin Love will come in as a rookie, prone to rookie mistakes and will end up in Frank's doghouse for at least a little bit.

I think that keeping Krstic for $5 for 2 years is a sound plan. If he actually comes back and plays great, we get an instant bargain big man. If he doesn't, there will be a team that will take a chance on him, and trading him wont be too difficult. Plus, his contract will run out during the LBJ sweepstakes.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top