Exclusive Lamarcus Aldridge Will NOT Return This Off-Season (and why that's not a bad thing)

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THE HCP said:
^What the hell? Why you getting so mad bro^
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Because it's frustrating when someone complains about a video they obviously didn't watch and then when someone takes the time to explain why it doesn't work the way he is saying it could he pretty much just ignored it and said the same thing he said before. Drives me nuts.
 
hoopsjock said:
Because it's frustrating when someone complains about a video they obviously didn't watch and then when someone takes the time to explain why it doesn't work the way he is saying it could he pretty much just ignored it and said the same thing he said before. Drives me nuts.
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I hear ya. But there is too much shit going down in the world right now to get upset over this. Take some deep breathes and go hug your family. We gotta come together right now.
 
hoopsjock said:
You didn't comprehend a single thing I said about Jimmy Butler.
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You got to admit that Jimmy Butler trade was one of a kind. Not many thought it could happen. Lots of things had to happen to make that fall into place. If i remember correctly you didn't feel it was plausible. Any time there are four teams involved it's a tough deal to complete.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Good question. Yes I assume SAS would be interested in the draft pick half of my statement, as I assume all teams are interested in first round picks. Now Whiteside as a player I admit doesn't make sense for SAS if they rebuild. Maybe they even would view him as negative value. Maybe a 3rd team would want him however. Who knows.

I'm not saying an Aldridge trade is likely. I just dont believe we can dismiss it as an absolute zero percemt chance it could happen as the title states.
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I read his title as having about as much certainty as your statement that SAS would be interested in paying Whiteside $60M over 3 years for the privilege of obtaining our first-round pick.

This is a forum of non-insiders--all predictive statements made in here are simply opinions based on someone's perception of probabilities, and really should be interpreted as such.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I read his title as having about as much certainty as your statement that SAS would be interested in paying Whiteside $60M over 3 years for the privilege of obtaining our first-round pick.

This is a forum of non-insiders--all predictive statements made in here are simply opinions based on someone's perception of probabilities, and really should be interpreted as such.
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Yeah good point, I agree both the title and SAS wanting to pay whitside 60 million don't make sense.
 
hoopsjock said:
Who the fuck knows? I know, and I just told you that doesn't work. You didn't comprehend a single thing I said about Jimmy Butler.


I'm so sick of people who dismiss the rules because it doesn't fit their narrative.
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You don't know for certain what will happen just as I don't. My only argument was acquiring aldridge, even if very unlikely, is possible and nothing you've said has proven otherwise.

I haven't dismissed rules or the CBA. I stated facts, as well as that we don't even know what rule changes with the CBA could be in effect in these unusual times once we are at an eventual offseason.

Maybe you are angry I'm not pumping up the view count of your partners youtube channel and singing praise? I saw a factually incorrect statement and pointed it out. Relax. Others have pointed out errors I've made which I like and accept.

You probably need to step away from your computer if someone posting on the internet can upset you so much.
 
kjironman1 said:
You got to admit that Jimmy Butler trade was one of a kind. Not many thought it could happen. Lots of things had to happen to make that fall into place. If i remember correctly you didn't feel it was plausible. Any time there are four teams involved it's a tough deal to complete.
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Wrong
 
WesleyMatthews said:
You don't know for certain what will happen just as I don't. My only argument was acquiring aldridge, even if very unlikely, is possible and nothing you've said has proven otherwise.

I haven't dismissed rules or the CBA. I stated facts, as well as that we don't even know what rule changes with the CBA could be in effect in these unusual times once we are at an eventual offseason.

Maybe you are angry I'm not pumping up the view count of your partners youtube channel and singing praise? I saw a factually incorrect statement and pointed it out. Relax. Others have pointed out errors I've made which I like and accept.

You probably need to step away from your computer if someone posting on the internet can upset you so much.
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I don't care if you watch the video. The problem is you don't know what you're talking about and if you just watched it you could've been educated about it.

I do know for certain that a sign and trade using Whiteside will not work in this situation. Until you provide an example of just one sign and trade like trading Whiteside for Aldridge would be then I'll just assume you have no desire to learn why.
 
hoopsjock said:
I don't care if you watch the video. The problem is you don't know what you're talking about and if you just watched it you could've been educated about it.

I do know for certain that a sign and trade using Whiteside will not work in this situation. Until you provide an example of just one sign and trade like trading Whiteside for Aldridge would be then I'll just assume you have no desire to learn why.
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Maybe a third team decides to sign Whiteside as a free agent, lets say the stupid Knicks. Then to structure the signing as a sign and trade a few days later the Blazers offer a second round pick to the Knicks team, and a pick or two to the Spurs. The Blazers maybe send another player to the Spurs if needed to match salary. The Spurs get a pick and cap relief.

It has similarities to the way Jamal Crawford was traded to the Hawks in the Gallinari sign and trade from the Nuggets to the Clippers.

There are many other ways an Aldridge to PDX trade could happen. Ariza could be involved, or Hood, or CJ, hell even Nurk. Maybe Aldridge is the second player coming to PDX of a larger deal centered on the Blazers adding a superior starter. Maybe that starter is on a cheap contract so Aldridge large dollars are needed to better match salary. Maybe the CBA trade rules change. Theres beyond dozens of scenarios that could be possible. I'm not saying its likely a trade is ever seriously considered, all I am saying is the aspect that does make sense is PDX needs to win now if building around Lillard; and Aldridge would have little value on a rebuilding Spurs squad. Both those could make a mutual advantage to both teams doing a trade. Yes there are cap complications and difficulties in matching salaries, maybe those are so significant it prevents a trade. However I believe stating a fact that Aldridge will not return is incorrect. It might help with youtube view so nice job grabbing interest in that regard.
 
hoopsjock said:
Wrong
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It’s not wrong. It was a four team trade and trades like it rarely happen.
If you can’t agree with that then it’s obvious you are just being argumentative.
You have said many times getting multiple teams to agree on a trade is difficult at best. But I guess that doesn’t fit your narrative in this case. So you wanna go all “Wrong” on this statement.
Simple statement not an indictment. Not many believed it was gonna go down like that.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Maybe a third team decides to sign Whiteside as a free agent, lets say the stupid Knicks. Then to structure the signing as a sign and trade a few days later the Blazers offer a second round pick to the Knicks team, and a pick or two to the Spurs. The Blazers maybe send another player to the Spurs if needed to match salary. The Spurs get a pick and cap relief.

It has similarities to the way Jamal Crawford was traded to the Hawks in the Gallinari sign and trade from the Nuggets to the Clippers.

There are many other ways an Aldridge to PDX trade could happen. Ariza could be involved, or Hood, or CJ, hell even Nurk. Maybe Aldridge is the second player coming to PDX of a larger deal centered on the Blazers adding a superior starter. Maybe that starter is on a cheap contract so Aldridge large dollars are needed to better match salary. Maybe the CBA trade rules change. Theres beyond dozens of scenarios that could be possible. I'm not saying its likely a trade is ever seriously considered, all I am saying is the aspect that does make sense is PDX needs to win now if building around Lillard; and Aldridge would have little value on a rebuilding Spurs squad. Both those could make a mutual advantage to both teams doing a trade. Yes there are cap complications and difficulties in matching salaries, maybe those are so significant it prevents a trade. However I believe stating a fact that Aldridge will not return is incorrect. It might help with youtube view so nice job grabbing interest in that regard.
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It's a fact that Olshey wont trade CJ, Dame, or Nurkic for Aldridge. That's common knowledge.

Outside of that, the only way he could get LMA without a sign-and-trade would have to involve Ariza, and then Collins and a prospect (wont happen), or Hood (if he accepts his player option) and a prospect.

With full confidence, I can say that Olshey won't let Whiteside walk and then trade are #1 & #2 SFs for LaMarcus Aldridge. No easy here trades our #1 & #2 SFs for Aldridge if we keep Whiteside either (why trade two players at a position of need in order to add LMA to a frontcourt of Nurk, Collins, and Whiteside?

Also, why didnt the trade happen at the deadline, but would happen now? Both teams were better positioned for a trade at the deadline.

Also, why would Olshey bring back LA when he's a C at this point if his career and his skillset doesn't fit at PF?

There, that's a basic summary of the video.

It's so highly unlikely that I'm confident saying we wont get LA. Just like I'm confident that we wont get LeBron or Giannis this summer.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
You don't know for certain what will happen just as I don't. My only argument was acquiring aldridge, even if very unlikely, is possible and nothing you've said has proven otherwise.

I haven't dismissed rules or the CBA. I stated facts, as well as that we don't even know what rule changes with the CBA could be in effect in these unusual times once we are at an eventual offseason.

Maybe you are angry I'm not pumping up the view count of your partners youtube channel and singing praise? I saw a factually incorrect statement and pointed it out. Relax. Others have pointed out errors I've made which I like and accept.

You probably need to step away from your computer if someone posting on the internet can upset you so much.
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Nobody cares about 1 view and I dont need your praise. Sorry.
 
BonesJones said:
It's a fact that Olshey wont trade CJ, Dame, or Nurkic for Aldridge. That's common knowledge.

Outside of that, the only way he could get LMA without a sign-and-trade would have to involve Ariza, and then Collins and a prospect (wont happen), or Hood (if he accepts his player option) and a prospect.

With full confidence, I can say that Olshey won't let Whiteside walk and then trade are #1 & #2 SFs for LaMarcus Aldridge. No easy here trades our #1 & #2 SFs for Aldridge if we keep Whiteside either (why trade two players at a position of need in order to add LMA to a frontcourt of Nurk, Collins, and Whiteside?

Also, why didnt the trade happen at the deadline, but would happen now? Both teams were better positioned for a trade at the deadline.

Also, why would Olshey bring back LA when he's a C at this point if his career and his skillset doesn't fit at PF?

There, that's a basic summary of the video.

It's so highly unlikely that I'm confident saying we wont get LA. Just like I'm confident that we wont get LeBron or Giannis this summer.
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I'm gonna put my personal biased opinion about Aldridge aside and look at this objectively.
Honestly i agree with this pretty much completely. Some things simply just don't make sense and other are obviously more probable. Your point about the trade deadline in particular. Why not then? Why would they now?
Now my personal bias back installed- I don't want Aldridge back at all. He left let him stay gone.
 
I wouldn’t be against trading CJ for a Package deal with LA, one of Derrick White/Keldon Johnson, and a first round draft pick.

don’t know if SA would be interested in that but they’d certainly have a good 1-3 with Murray, CJ, and DeMar
 
GhostOfPGA said:
I wouldn’t be against trading CJ for a Package deal with LA, one of Derrick White/Keldon Johnson, and a first round draft pick.

don’t know if SA would be interested in that but they’d certainly have a good 1-3 with Murray, CJ, and DeMar
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It would be fascinating to see what Pops could get from CJ.
 
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