Leonard's Breakout Game?

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Wow. Leonard is looking sharp against Miami in the first half. I'm finally starting to understand why the Portland coaches like him so much. This guy definitely has some skills. His bank off the glass in the second quarter was a thing of beauty, and he's snared some big rebounds. I think we may have something after all.
 
the "near 'nilla Gorillas" are combined 4pts, 11reb, 1 ast so far"
 
Jury's still out on this kid, but I like that he's starting to get more comfortable in the second unit. Half of being an NBA player is confidence and maybe he finally has a shot at getting some. Go Meyers, go.
 
Making progress that's for sure, those who fail to see it are Blind
 
I've been saying since last season, Meyers is not a center, he's a PF and he looked good with Lopez or Freeland at the 5.
 
It great to see him doing well with his limited time. I'm encouraged. I think he'll continue to improve and become a good player.
 
Meyers looked WAY less awkward and more comfortable in this game. His defense and rebounding were better than LaMarcus'. I still think he has a future. Still a work in progress, but tonight was encouraging.
 
Meyers Beiber BLOWS. Breakout game? OMFG. He was a lottery pick, and he cares more about his hair then his game.
 
Maybe you were expecting Kendall Marshall or Austin Rivers to show up?
 
Meyers looked WAY less awkward and more comfortable in this game. His defense and rebounding were better than LaMarcus'. I still think he has a future. Still a work in progress, but tonight was encouraging.

The big thing (imho)? He played at PF, instead of C. He played his best minutes with a legit center in the game (Lopez). He looked pretty good, given his average play.
 
The big thing (imho)? He played at PF, instead of C. He played his best minutes with a legit center in the game (Lopez). He looked pretty good, given his average play.

True that. He's playing good next to Lopez it seems (and Freeland). Man Lopez just makes everybody better.
 
Meyers Beiber BLOWS. Breakout game? OMFG. He was a lottery pick, and he cares more about his hair then his game.

Why don't you go back to the rock you crawled out from under? Mixim, OdenIsGod, OdenIsStillGod - you are one in the same and all three of your pungent personalities are unwelcome here, still.
 
Leonard scored 20+ points in a game in Oakland last season.
True, but this game was against the world champions, and Leonard looked poised and confident in a way I haven't seen for a long time.
 
I'm not a hater, and I agree that it was good to see him with some strong possessions (especially in the first half), but on the other hand we also had... this.

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Maybe a few more of those mediocre games and he can rebuild some of his trade value and we can use him to add a real piece.
 
I'm not a hater, and I agree that it was good to see him with some strong possessions (especially in the first half), but on the other hand we also had... this.

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He heard Stotts yelling and thought he had no time; inexperience, that's all. I note also it was right on line, just short. :ghoti:

It was the travel + goaltend doubleheader that made me shake my head.
 
For a player who came into the league as young and raw as Meyers Leonard, there is no such thing as a breakout game. He's a long term project and a work in progress. There will be good games, bad games, mediocre games and DNP-CDs. Expect inconsistency, but as long as the overall trend is positive, I'm fine with that.

But then, when it comes to Meyers Leonard, I've been a realist since day one. I knew when we drafted him, he was very young, very raw, very inexperienced and at least 3 to 4 years away from being a respectable NBA player. In other words, my expectations have always been realistic. The good news is I'm clearly seeing positive forward progress these last three games. First, he's playing meaningful minutes in close games against top notch competition - not just garbage time minutes against other scrubs in blowout victories.

Most folks on this board thought Joel Freeland was worthless last season, that he looked every bit as lost, uncomfortable and clueless as Leonard. In some ways, especially on offense, he looked even worse than Leonard. Given Freeland's more advanced age and several seasons of professional experience in Europe, I was more disappointed in Freeland last season than Leonard. After all, we'd been told that JoelFreeland was the best big man outside of the NBA. But, look at the remarkable improvement Freeland has made in just one off season of hard work. To most in this forum, Freeland went from lost cause to fan favorite in a matter of six months. I recognized the improvement in Freeland, his vastly improved interior defense and rebounding early in the preseason and picked him as my Cult Hero before the season started.

And guess what, I'm starting to see the same type improvement with Meyers Leonard. Oh sure, he still makes the occasional boneheaded play - a "rookie" mistake. I know he's not technically a rookie anymore, but he is still very inexperienced, very young, still adjusting to his body and learning the NBA game. But overall, I'm seeing a lot more good than bad from Leonard these days and that's a clear step in the right direction. I almost posted something about Leonard's progress after the Clippers game, but I get tired of the haters constantly shitting all over this kid, no matter what he does. But haters are always gonna hate. It's what they do and helps them feel good about themselves.

I first noticed in the NOP game that Meyers was much more active when rebounding, especially on the defensive end. He was much more focused and alert and rather than just standing around hoping the ball bounced his way he was actively pursuing rebounds and chasing down loose balls. Same thing, only even better against the Clippers and Heat. I also noticed some very Freelandesque defensive progress. He is getting much better position and like Freeland is going straight up with arms fully extended. That foul call on him against DeAndre Jordan was complete bullshit. If you watched the replay, Leonard played prefect defense on that play. He went straight up with arms fully extended, as he's allowed to do (and supposed to do) and Jordan swung his arm into Leonard. It should have been a non-call. Leonard altered the shot and prevented the easy field goal. He did what he was supposed to do - protect the rim. And, since Jordan missed both free throws, even though it was a bogus call, Leonard was successful and prevented an easy two points by playing proper defense.

I know the sample size is extremely small, but the stats (what we have) back up what I'm seeing with my eyes. Leonard is currently averaging 11.2 PTS/36 and 13.1 REB/36 (highest on the team). His PER = 14.8 and his TRB% is 19.8, again highest on the team and approaching elite level rebounding. His TS% of .611 is excellent. His ORTg (132 - highest on the team), DRTg (104 - tied for best on the team) and WS/48 (.187 - highest on the team) are all outstanding. Again, I recognize these numbers are all based on an extremely small sample size and will moderate over time as his PT increases, but it does show that he is being productive in the limited, but meaningful minutes he's playing.

Most importantly, I've seen significant progress in the two areas most critics say Leonard needs to improve the most- defense and rebounding. I've seen it with my eyes and the numbers back it up. He's a few months behind Joel Freeland, but he's learning the same things now that Freeland learned over the summer. At this point, rebounding and good position defense are second nature for Freeland. You can count on him to give you steady, solid, if unspectacular play, night in and night out. Leonard still looks like he needs to think about what he's supposed to do, but the good news is he's thinking about and doing the right things more and more. Eventually, it will become second nature to him like it has to Freeland.

Sure, he'll still make some dumb plays and have bad games, but if this type of overall progress continues, Leonard will become a solid rotation player and because he's younger, taller, more athletic and has better offensive skills, he will eventually become an even better version of the player Joel Freeland has become. Given how little Leonard has actually played this season, his progress these last three games is ahead of where I would expect it to be. He's obviously working hard in practice. His coach has noticed and is rewarding him with increased playing time. Good for him. I hope his increased role will inspire him to continue to work hard and get better.

BNM
 
Meyers Beiber BLOWS. Breakout game? OMFG. He was a lottery pick, and he cares more about his hair then his game.

Evidently so does Coach Stotts. He likes Leonard's hair so much he has rewarded him with a spot in the rotation and increased playing time. Forget a big man coach, what this team needs is a better stylist!

BNM
 
I'm not a hater, and I agree that it was good to see him with some strong possessions (especially in the first half), but on the other hand we also had... this.

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Yeah, he thought the shot clock was expiring and launched a shot at the rim to avoid the 24-second violation. His instincts were correct, but his timing was off by about 4 seconds. He had his back to the basket and could not see the shot clock. His court awareness will continue to improve with more PT. Yeah, it was a dumb play, but only one of two shots he missed and does not negate the 6 points and 5 rebounds he had in 11 minutes. As long as he continues to rebound and defend like he has the past three games, I can tolerate the occasional "rookie" mistake as he continues to learn how to play at the NBA level.

BNM
 

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