Zombie Lillard is playing like a bum

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Wade Garrett said:
Lillard's fine.
Although, my girlfriend says he hasn't been the same since his son was born.
If she's right.
Blame the kid.
Personally, I believe somethings "missing" about him this year.
I think it's that big Bosnian dude.
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Oh god another excuse lol

I remember when his son was born ppl were saying he’s playing bad because he’s staying up late like other star players don’t have newborns lol
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I have mixed thoughts about that, body language IS a form communication, you literally cant get around that. No one is expected to have a PhD in english to talk with each other.

It is not always concrete just like words on a page can be discerned differently, and using our judgement of someone’s body language may lead us to the wrong conclusion. I disagree a lot with his assessment but at the same time, if he believes dames body language is expressing something, he could definitely not be the only one who thinks that, and maybe only Dame could tell us what he’s thinking or feeling.
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100% body language is a form of communication, sometimes conscious, but more often subconscious. I think the big difference between words and body language is that words typically have a defined meaning that we have all accepted. Yes, shaking your head often means no (or unsure), but again that's a conscious action. What is overwhelming pointed out here are subconscious actions. Even worse, we often mix someone being slower with them not caring. This even happens at the youth level where we assume the person who runs faster or jumps higher cares more than someone who isn't as althetic.

In the case of Dame, or anyone on here, if we're going to say someone "looks like they don't care." at the very least we should point out the specific actions that are causing one to make such an assessment. Dame "settling" for threes may appear lazy or like he isn't trying, but there are countless other reasons why it may not be happening. I think in general its dangerous to watch someone and think you know why they are doing something or not.
 
From the begining of this season Dame plays like 50 mins per game. Most here agreed that squeezing him early im the season is wrong.
Damian playing can give u options:
1. He carry this team on his back thru reg season, as he's done before. - Result? Blazers in playoffs with Lillard gased. Sweep.
2. Lillard playing "medium" in reg ses. Result? He can carry Blazers more in playoffs, but WE CAN'T WIN SHIP WITH HIM ALONE even when he scores 60 every playoff game.
3. Lillard wait for his team to play on the level that makes his effort useful and for coach to find ways of playing this team or maybe for NO for making some moves.

What I'm saying is, IF he plays with low energy, it's ok with me. He is smart. We have a shoot to go to the playoffs, b/c west conf is suddenly not that strong. So I prefer him to rest and try to make splash in playoffs than carrying clueless team on his spasm on December.

It's not Dame. It's team. Team needs to go up. Without it he's effort will be wasted anyway and I prefer him healthy.
 
Tince said:
100% body language is a form of communication, sometimes conscious, but more often subconscious. I think the big difference between words and body language is that words typically have a defined meaning that we have all accepted. Yes, shaking your head often means no (or unsure), but again that's a conscious action. What is overwhelming pointed out here are subconscious actions. Even worse, we often mix someone being slower with them not caring. This even happens at the youth level where we assume the person who runs faster or jumps higher cares more than someone who isn't as althetic.

In the case of Dame, or anyone on here, if we're going to say someone "looks like they don't care." at the very least we should point out the specific actions that are causing one to make such an assessment. Dame "settling" for threes may appear lazy or like he isn't trying, but there are countless other reasons why it may not be happening. I think in general its dangerous to watch someone and think you know why they are doing something or not.
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So ive said this before, I think at times the whole team looks like theyve never played defense together. The reason why I said that is they’ll give up a 3 or a layup and two or three of them will stand their and either point at each other or look like I thought that was your guy. I dont know the depths of their practice routines, or what not but there are times that the teams body language does come off like they arent sure what they need to be doing.

Id agree it can be dangerous to make those assumptions, but part of communication is assumptions, we are speaking a language where if you went to a dictionary several of the words we use in every sentence has 2,3,4+ definitions. Of course I dont know whats going through the players minds, but I think its ok to see their body language, there interactions and at least say that in your opinion things look a certain way. Just like going to a book club and talking about a book you’ll find multiple people got different things from the same book.

Its my opinion obviously but where I and others make the mistake is when we take our assumptions and our subjective opinions and state them as facts.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
You are far too much of a noob here to to make such asinine blanket statements. Which means all you’re doing is pissing into the wind. I personally have never advocated trading anyone but CJ. And I have never advocated for firing Stotts. Dame is currently carrying the team on his back. And the load gets heavier with every injury. Seems like you’re the one denying reality. Or you just like picking pointless fights you can’t win. Mom and Dad obviously didn’t give you enough attention. How about jumping on the Lakers bandwagon if you’re so eager for “your” team to win a ring. That would be the easy thing to do. The rest of us will remain loyal to the Blazers brand, thank you very much.
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Noob? Not so much. He's been doing the same thing since the OLive days.

Transparent phony...
 
Tince said:
100% body language is a form of communication, sometimes conscious, but more often subconscious. I think the big difference between words and body language is that words typically have a defined meaning that we have all accepted. Yes, shaking your head often means no (or unsure), but again that's a conscious action. What is overwhelming pointed out here are subconscious actions. Even worse, we often mix someone being slower with them not caring. This even happens at the youth level where we assume the person who runs faster or jumps higher cares more than someone who isn't as althetic.

In the case of Dame, or anyone on here, if we're going to say someone "looks like they don't care." at the very least we should point out the specific actions that are causing one to make such an assessment. Dame "settling" for threes may appear lazy or like he isn't trying, but there are countless other reasons why it may not be happening. I think in general its dangerous to watch someone and think you know why they are doing something or not.
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You’re making this way harder than it needs to be.



watch the video. Lillard is either standing around or casually walking in nearly every play - offense or defense. I think it’s safe to assume that standing around whenever you don’t have the ball doesn’t send a signal to your teammates to play hard.

He gets beat numerous times on defense in the video and he’s not even in a defensive position. He’s going under screens or just watching as his man blows by. His help defense is non-existent. He was playing far better and more energetic defense last year.

he is supposed to be our LEADER. If your team is playing with low energy, that’s exactly when you expect your LEADER to step it up. Not only is he not leading our team in effort, Dame is giving less effort than anyone on the team.
 
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Blazers1977 said:
Its hard to watch Lillard play this season. He does not seem motivated. He is not playing with passion, interest, or energy. He is playing like a celebrity that is happy to cash a giant check and pal around with Von Miller after his team gets humiliated.

He doesn’t seem upset when he loses, at all. I’ve seen Kobe Bryant more upset in training camp scrimmages than I’ve seen Lillard all season after his team has been getting beat down repeatedly.

watch how he opened the game against Denver. He’s literally walking the ball up the court and going through plays like it’s a scrimmage. His defense has been half-assed all year too.

he always scores a decent amount, and this keeps him out of the line of fire, but I think he is the biggest reason our team has struggled this season. Everyone on the team has made mistakes, but nobody is lacking energy like Lillard. He needs to get called out so he starts playing with a chip on his shoulder.
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I actually fell for the click bait. It was just so blatant i was sure there had to be twist. But no. The OP was just as stupid as the title.
 
I just want to know how Lillard is shooting 35% from 3 this season?
 
AldoTrapani said:
I just want to know how Lillard is shooting 35% from 3 this season?
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Well he's shooting 36.2% so you don't have to figure out a fake question.

Plus his career average is 36.8% so you can't say he's fallen off or having a down year.
 
hoopsjock said:
Well he's shooting 36.2% so you don't have to figure out a fake question.

Plus his career average is 36.8% so you can't say he's fallen off or having a down year.
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Man he’s barley above league average tho which is about 35.5%... one thing that’s for sure is his reputation as this assassin from 3 is overrated
 
Lillard has always played his best post December. He is smart to know first 25% of games in a season are not more important than last 25% where he has historically post all star break played his best
 
Serbian said:
Lillard has always played his best post December. He is smart to know first 25% of games in a season are not more important than last 25% where he has historically post all star break played his best
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Oh wow. The first person to actually admit he isn’t playing 100% while he’s walking around for half the game. The Lillard cult is making some progress!
 
kjironman1 said:
I actually fell for the click bait. It was just so blatant i was sure there had to be twist. But no. The OP was just as stupid as the title.
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“yOurE StOoPid”

thanks for contributing to the discussion.
 
Dame takes some shots that aren't ideal. Constantly tries to draw fouls even if it means putting up garbage from three.

Trys to dribble out of way too many double teams instead of passing before the trap is in place.

He's in a funk right now but I don't think it will last. IMHO, he thinks he has to carry the team.
 
Cugel said:
Dame takes some shots that aren't ideal. Constantly tries to draw fouls even if it means putting up garbage from three.

Trys to dribble out of way too many double teams instead of passing before the trap is in place.

He's in a funk right now but I don't think it will last. IMHO, he thinks he has to carry the team.
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that’s a big part of it. He’s not playing as team oriented as he did in the past. When LaMarcus first left, Lillard was the epitome of a good leader. His energy was high every game, he shared the ball and trusted his team and they developed well.

this time, with the new roster, he is the opposite. He is not trusting his team. It took him like 20 games to successfully complete a lob pass to Hassan. He doesn’t let Mario run the pg when he clearly wants to. He wasn’t getting Hood enough looks. He isn’t getting people the ball where they want it. He’s just doing pick and roll / hero ball every play, or he stands around.

I get that he’s elite in the pick and roll and great enough at hero ball that it works. But Playing team offense takes way less energy than hero ball. The reason he’s tired is bc he isn’t trusting his team.
 
Blazers1977 said:
that’s a big part of it. He’s not playing as team oriented as he did in the past. When LaMarcus first left, Lillard was the epitome of a good leader. His energy was high every game, he shared the ball and trusted his team and they developed well.
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I mean are you just going to ignore that he has a career high 7.5 assists this year and last game when you said he played like a "bum" he had 11 assists. But no keep ignoring that cause it doesn't fit with your "he doesn't share the ball or trust his teammates as much" theory.
 
Blazers1977 said:
“yOurE StOoPid”

thanks for contributing to the discussion.
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OP means "Original Post". Never said anything about you personally.
By the way you forgot the apostrophe in "yOu'rE". You also spelled "sTupId" wrong.
The only thing worth contributing to this discussion would be to point out exactly how unintelligent this conversation is. I don't have time to take it any further.
 
hoopsjock said:
I mean are you just going to ignore that he has a career high 7.5 assists this year and last game when you said he played like a "bum" he had 11 assists. But no keep ignoring that cause it doesn't fit with your "he doesn't share the ball or trust his teammates as much" theory.
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assists aren’t synonymous with trusting your teammates or sharing the ball. They mean something, but not what you’re pretending they mean.

people who dribble more and have the ball more tend to get more assists. That’s why he is getting half an assist more this year. Woopdido.
 
Blazers1977 said:
assists aren’t synonymous with trusting your teammates or sharing the ball. They mean something, but not what you’re pretending they mean.

people who dribble more and have the ball more tend to get more assists. That’s why he is getting half an assist more this year. Woopdido.
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Dame's potential assists per game:

2019-20: 13.1

2018-19: 12.3

2017-18: 12.7

2016-17: 11.9

That literally proves that Dame is slightly better this year at setting up his teammates for potential baskets. Anyone who claims he isn't sharing the ball as much is flat out wrong.

Dame's usage rate during those seasons:

2019-20: 28.2

2018-19: 29.3

2017-18: 30.6

2016-17: 31.5

What does this mean? The data proves that Dame actually is sharing the ball with his teammates more DESPITE having the ball LESS thus completely fucking your stupid theory right up the ass.
 
hoopsjock said:
Dame's potential assists per game:

2019-20: 13.1

2018-19: 12.3

2017-18: 12.7

2016-17: 11.9

That literally proves that Dame is slightly better this year at setting up his teammates for potential baskets. Anyone who claims he isn't sharing the ball as much is flat out wrong.

Dame's usage rate during those seasons:

2019-20: 28.2

2018-19: 29.3

2017-18: 30.6

2016-17: 31.5

What does this mean? The data proves that Dame actually is sharing the ball with his teammates more DESPITE having the ball LESS thus completely fucking your stupid theory right up the ass.
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Nah. Your comment is just statistically challenged and you make way too much out of small <1% factoids. Getting half an assist more doesn’t mean much of anything.

you also didn’t factor in that he’s playing more minutes.
 
Blazers1977 said:
Nah. Your comment is just statistically challenged and you make way too much out of small <1% factoids.

you also didn’t factor in that he’s playing more minutes.
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Oh no, poor @Blazers1977 had his shitty ass theory completely blown out of the water and doesn't understand that there are stats for pretty much anything.
 
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