Lowe: Nurkic is taking qualifying offer

[BrianFromWA]

Festus says Hi.

You included the one (Miles) I figured most people would forget, but ya can't leave out Roy, Turner, and to a lesser extent Harkless.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Not that it means anything, who knows, but my ex-girlfriend works for a commercial moving company and they're packing Nurk's house up today and putting his stuff into PODS.

Pics or this is fake news.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Pics or this is fake news.

He meant of Nurk's house, not your ex-girlfriend. Those go to Sly.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Holy fucking shit, if Nurkic see this he want's a Max too

Want and get are two different things.

Jokic is a stat monster and with his 3-point range and passing ability is better suited for today's game. However, his defense is terrible, he hasn't been able to lead his team to the playoffs and he actually regressed a bit last season (I think opposing defenses have started to figure him out). He has a great feel for the game, but is slow footed and soft. I guess that's what $146 million buys you these days.

BNM

 

[handiman]

Festus says Hi.

I dunno, that was a questionable signing but not a bad contract. Didn't we have to spend the money that year to hit the minimum?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Didn't we have to spend the money that year to hit the minimum?

No--that was summer 2016, the summer of Turner and Crabbe. We were well over the minimum by the time that summer was over...

 

[Boob-No-More]

I dunno, that was a questionable signing but not a bad contract. Didn't we have to spend the money that year to hit the minimum?

The only saving grace was the second year wasn't fully guaranteed (only $1 million, which during the summer of 2016 was like 25 cents in real world dollars). Neil basically spent right up to, but not over, the luxury tax limit with the option to cut Ezeli loose if it didn't work out. It didn't. He did.

BNM

 

[tykendo]

Hey, i'm all for a guy having to prove his worth, but I think Nurk already has. Yes he has been inconsistent, but he's a developing young center who I believe will only get better. The Blazers are dominant when he's at his best. Without him, this team is open market in the post for anyone to search and destroy. I hope it all works out, but letting Nurk get to UFA is not good IMO. And Collins IS NOT A CENTER, so the replacement is not already in place.

 

[Reep]

Holy fucking shit, if Nurkic see this he want's a Max too

Glad I'm not a Nuggets fan. Ouch. The market will dictate what Nurkic gets and if he thinks he deserves that kind of money then I would just as soon see him leave now. Denver is going to be buried under that contract for a long time.

 

[illmatic99]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/27/17507608/nba-restricted-free-agents-2018-offseason

Nurkic is probably the player on this list most likely to sign the one-year tender. There’s not much demand for lumbering centers who don’t have a perimeter game around the NBA, while Portland has invested heavily in Zach Collins, the no. 10 overall pick in last year’s draft, as their center of the future. The Blazers need Nurkic back to stay afloat in the Western Conference, but they probably don’t want to commit to him long term, and it’s unlikely that any other team will force their hand.

Another guess saying Nurk might take the QO

 

[handiman]

We invested heavily in a #10 pick? That's as faulty of logic as I've ever heard. It's very debatable whether Center is even Collins' best position.

Whatever happens with Nurk has nothing to do with Collins.

 

[riverman]

Whatever happens with Nurk has nothing to do with Collins.

Collins practicing against Nurk has a lot to do with his development

 

[illmatic99]

We invested heavily in a #10 pick? That's as faulty of logic as I've ever heard. It's very debatable whether Center is even Collins' best position.

Whatever happens with Nurk has nothing to do with Collins.

I was of this mind as well, but I really think Collins' best position after he gets some strength will be the 5. He's mobile enough to switch on guards and protect the rim. But he can't truly defend guys who are suddenly becoming 4s like Lebron/KD/Giannis/Simmons when they're on the ball so much.

 

[riverman]

I was of this mind as well, but I really think Collins' best position after he gets some strength will be the 5. He's mobile enough to switch on guards and protect the rim. But he can't truly defend guys who are suddenly becoming 4s like Lebron/KD/Giannis/Simmons when they're on the ball so much.

The staff has already said they want to see Collins playing closer to the basket....he's going to be a center who can play some 4

 

[riverman]

He meant of Nurk's house, not your ex-girlfriend. Those go to Sly.

I wondered what Sly spent all that payola on

 

[Pinwheel1]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/27/17507608/nba-restricted-free-agents-2018-offseason


Another guess saying Nurk might take the QO

That is a pretty good article IMO. Like Handiman said I don't see Collins being a full time center so he is not too much of a factor in the Nurk decision. But the evaluation of him, and pretty much all centers his size, is pretty dead on. They are all limited in covering the perimeter, much like PF's you need two types on your team. Collins and Aminu are a good tandem defensively at PF and Nurk/Collins is pretty good at center. Add Davis and the defensive side is pretty covered. Although I am hoping Aminu's minutes go down in favor of Collins at PF.

The write ups on the others players are pretty good too in that article. Would love to get Marcus Smart somehow. I think he can play SF.

 

[Blazinaway]

That is a pretty good article IMO. Like Handiman said I don't see Collins being a full time center so he is not too much of a factor in the Nurk decision. But the evaluation of him, and pretty much all centers his size, is pretty dead on. They are all limited in covering the perimeter, much like PF's you need two types on your team. Collins and Aminu are a good tandem defensively at PF and Nurk/Collins is pretty good at center. Add Davis and the defensive side is pretty covered. Although I am hoping Aminu's minutes go down in favor of Collins at PF.

The write ups on the others players are pretty good too in that article. Would love to get Marcus Smart somehow. I think he can play SF.

Derrick Favors is a UFA and may not fetch much more than the MLE, or perhaps the MLE, given that he's bulked up a bit over the years he is now really a C and turns 27 in July, if Nurk wants the moon Favors is a guy to consider IMO

 

[illmatic99]

Derrick Favors is a UFA and may not fetch much more than the MLE, or perhaps the MLE, given that he's bulked up a bit over the years he is now really a C and turns 27 in July, if Nurk wants the moon Favors is a guy to consider IMO

Our MLE is like 5 mil/yr - whatever we give Gary Trent. No way we get Favors for that low a number.

 

[dviss1]

Derrick Favors is a UFA and may not fetch much more than the MLE, or perhaps the MLE, given that he's bulked up a bit over the years he is now really a C and turns 27 in July, if Nurk wants the moon Favors is a guy to consider IMO

Two word answers only.

Injury prone.
Too soft.
Doesn't rebound.
Can't shoot.

No thanks.

 

[Blazinaway]

Our MLE is like 5 mil/yr - whatever we give Gary Trent. No way we get Favors for that low a number.

what if Nurks not here or takes the QO?

 

[illmatic99]

what if Nurks not here or takes the QO?

According to this :http://www.shamsports.com/capulator

If we renounce Ed/Pat/Shabazz, and Nurk either takes the QO or is renounced, we open up the non-taxpayer MLE of 8mil/yr

 

[Blazinaway]

According to this :http://www.shamsports.com/capulator

If we renounce Ed/Pat/Shabazz, and Nurk either takes the QO or is renounced, we open up the non-taxpayer MLE of 8mil/yr

thanks for that, renouncing Ed/Pat/Bazz seems likely anyway and is not hard to do, and depending upon what Nurk demands/wants it could get interesting

 

[illmatic99]

thanks for that, renouncing Ed/Pat/Bazz seems likely anyway and is not hard to do, and depending upon what Nurk demands/wants it could get interesting

The timing as well will be important. If Nurk takes his time going to teams to see what he can get, we might miss out on an FA that we could possibly land with the full MLE.

What we need to happen to max our assets/cap is to:

1. renounce all non-Nurk FAs
2.have Nurk take the QO
3. use our full MLE on someone like Tyreke Evans/ Rudy Gay
4. then use our AC TPE

Think I have that right.

 

[dviss1]

The timing as well will be important. If Nurk takes his time going to teams to see what he can get, we might miss out on an FA that we could possibly land with the full MLE.

What we need to happen to max our assets/cap is to:

1. renounce all non-Nurk FAs
2.have Nurk take the QO
3. use our full MLE on someone like Tyreke Evans/ Rudy Gay
4. then use our AC TPE

Think I have that right.

I liked this post tho I do NOT want to lose Ed Davis...

 

[Blazinaway]

I liked this post tho I do NOT want to lose Ed Davis...

if the money was "close" I'd much rather have Favors, however my guess is Ed does not get very much in a low amount of money available saturated Pf/C environment

 

[RR7]

The timing as well will be important. If Nurk takes his time going to teams to see what he can get, we might miss out on an FA that we could possibly land with the full MLE.

What we need to happen to max our assets/cap is to:

1. renounce all non-Nurk FAs
2.have Nurk take the QO
3. use our full MLE on someone like Tyreke Evans/ Rudy Gay
4. then use our AC TPE

Think I have that right.

If we use the non-tax MLE, we'd be capped right at the apron, which, depending on where Tyreke salary puts us, likely means we can not use the TPE.

 

[handiman]

Collins practicing against Nurk has a lot to do with his development

They are complimentary players. Collins developing does note correlate with him being Nurk's replacement.

I was of this mind as well, but I really think Collins' best position after he gets some strength will be the 5. He's mobile enough to switch on guards and protect the rim. But he can't truly defend guys who are suddenly becoming 4s like Lebron/KD/Giannis/Simmons when they're on the ball so much.

At this point, he's close enough to equally good at both positions, it's pretty much a wild guess... Let him play on the perimeter against the Dirk/Gasol types, and move him to Center against teams with a wing-oriented PF like you listed. Of course, Stotts would have to go or have a change in outlook, because he's too inflexible to shuffle lineups for situational advantages...

The staff has already said they want to see Collins playing closer to the basket....he's going to be a center who can play some 4

People say all sorts of stuff that they don't mean or follow through on. I believe what I see. Collins played almost exclusively on the perimeter last year, something he said (oops) was a big adjustment. Obviously, he was being pushed that direction by the coaching staff.

 

[illmatic99]

If we use the non-tax MLE, we'd be capped right at the apron, which, depending on where Tyreke salary puts us, likely means we can not use the TPE.

Damn, that fake hard cap. Forgot that.

 

[dviss1]

if the money was "close" I'd much rather have Favors, however my guess is Ed does not get very much in a low amount of money available saturated Pf/C environment

And this is why I'm glad you're not GM.

Favors and Davis are basically polar opposites.

One exemplifies toughness and the other is soft as Charmin.

 

[Labinot41]