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This matches up pretty closely with that account that was posted on reddit. They said that Christian knocked Meche's phone out of his hand, he stood up, and then there was a shoving match. That matches up pretty well with this. And this pretty much sinks any possible "self defense" claim. He pretty much provoked the entire thing.
 
This matches up pretty closely with that account that was posted on reddit. They said that Christian knocked Meche's phone out of his hand, he stood up, and then there was a shoving match. That matches up pretty well with this. And this pretty much sinks any possible "self defense" claim. He pretty much provoked the entire thing.

If everyone would have jumped out of a moving train this never would have happened. They stayed, they died. It's their fault.
 
political hate the scariest thing of my lifetime
you can't be serious....I found the assassinations of the president and his brother as well as Martin Luther King the scariest thing in my lifetime...I found the Watts riots and killing in Kent State way more frightening than the softballs lobbed at the orange buffoon
 
If the guy was so crazy, then why keep deflecting his alt-right politics? Just because you people agree with him doesn't mean you're also crazy and are going to stab people. Probably not anyway.
 
you can't be serious....I found the assassinations of the president and his brother as well as Martin Luther King the scariest thing in my lifetime...I found the Watts riots and killing in Kent State way more frightening than the softballs lobbed at the orange buffoon

Well river my man, I believe you. By most of what you post, I gather you are an earnest supporter of the progressive left and fully support any and all efforts to bring down the duly elected administration from the start. I gather you fully support the use of all demeaning adjectives that are strung in front of Trump or Trump supporter.

I expressed how dangerous I view this extremism taken up by the left and I don't expect you to see it while you support it.
It is not at all the same as, fear of a whacko that knocked off King or the wacko that knocked of whom ever. It is now a full fledge concerted effort by the left to subvert the duly elected government, coordinated as well as any religion. I do indeed see the progressive left as a replacement religion intended to replace the Constitutional. An attempt, against the establisment clause to install and establish progressivism as the correct religion of the nation.

Leftist leaders call for impeachment of the President while unable to articulate a crime committed that is supported by any evidence.
Leftist leaders openly defy US immigration law while protecting illegal immigrants from deportation as the law provides.
Leftist leaders are shutting down free speech in many cities and Universities thought out the country.
Leftist leaders are curtailing the right to assemble in many cities through out the country, labeling the participants with pejoratives like, racist, supremest, alt-left, Trump Supporters(with a string of adjectives).
Leftist leaders are shutting down the free practice of religion except those where the followers will vote for the left.
 
Leftist leaders are shutting down the free practice of religion
bit of an exaggeration eh? You see Marz.....in a free country I can insult Trump and complain about his cabinet all I want. I gave him a couple months to earn some respect and he failed to do that, quite the contrary, he has proven to me that he's not capable of leading the free world......if anybody wanted to shut down a religion......check out the Muslim ban he;s spouted for years
 
This matches up pretty closely with that account that was posted on reddit. They said that Christian knocked Meche's phone out of his hand, he stood up, and then there was a shoving match. That matches up pretty well with this. And this pretty much sinks any possible "self defense" claim. He pretty much provoked the entire thing.
Wanna see the whole thing. He doesn't need a self defense claim, he gets a nutjob defense.
 
bit of an exaggeration eh? You see Marz.....in a free country I can insult Trump and complain about his cabinet all I want. I gave him a couple months to earn some respect and he failed to do that, quite the contrary, he has proven to me that he's not capable of leading the free world......if anybody wanted to shut down a religion......check out the Muslim ban he;s spouted for years
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/6/sweet-cakes-melissa-christian-bakers-oregon-appeal/
 
he has proven to me that he's not capable of leading the free world

Gee river my man, I hate to inject reality here. But you do know we did not elect Mr. Trump as President to prove a fucking thing to you. The vote tally should have been a strong clue that it is time to shut the fuck up. But you could go fishing. :cool2:
 
Right you are!

Not many Muslim bakeries fined out of business for declining to Bake a Gay Cake.

Have there been any Muslim bakeries refusing to make cakes for gay couples?

And again, this is the kind of hypocritical shit that drives me nuts about both sides. Jesus was about loving his fellow man. He was about acceptance and tolerance and forgiving. Denying someone business because of your "religious beliefs" is complete horseshit. You don't get to cite Jesus as a reason for being bigoted or hateful. Jesus would be ashamed of a lot of things that have been done in his name. I went to Sunday school. I went to church for many years. People just want an excuse to be hateful and it's disgusting. You don't follow the words of Jesus if you're going to turn away your fellow human beings.
 
it is time to shut the fuck up.
practice what you preach....I've got a carport to build before I can go fishing...people who value the constitution never shut the fuck up...you didn't seem to zip your lip the previous two terms if I remember .....I think I was fishing in those days!
 
Gee river my man, I hate to inject reality here. But you do know we did not elect Mr. Trump as President to prove a fucking thing to you. The vote tally should have been a strong clue that it is time to shut the fuck up. But you could go fishing. :cool2:

I'm glad you've finally admitted to electing a dictator.
 
Have there been any Muslim bakeries refusing to make cakes for gay couples

I know of none that were fined for this.

BTW, I think you are correct in your assestment of Jesus' teaching. Mohammad on the other hand taught a completely different treatment of homosexuals.
 
I'm glad you've finally admitted to electing a dictator.

Oh, not at all. I think he is following the Constitution very well, especially compared to resent administrations. He may find the way to handle the Jihadi and an NK too. At least there is hope now.
 
I know of none that were fined for this.

BTW, I think you are correct in your assestment of Jesus' teaching. Mohammad on the other hand taught a completely different treatment of homosexuals.

I am definitely no defender of Islam. I just think that many Christians aren't actually following the teachings of Jesus.

Personally, I think organized religion is bullshit on all fronts, but I just can't stand hypocrisy. It drives me up the wall. That cake shop wanted to cite religion as a reason to turn away a gay couple, but I can guaran-damn-tee that they would flip their shit if a Muslim baker refused to sell them a cake because they're Christians.

People need to stop being assholes and just live their damn lives.
 
Wonderful suggestion.

It seems like such a simple suggestion though, right? Treat others as you'd like to be treated. Seems pretty simple.... and yet I just see people being dicks to each other constantly. People being selfish. People looking out for themselves. It's really sad.
 
It seems like such a simple suggestion though, right? Treat others as you'd like to be treated. Seems pretty simple.... and yet I just see people being dicks to each other constantly. People being selfish. People looking out for themselves. It's really sad.
People not even paying attention to their surroundings. I was at Universal studios last week limping my big ass around and had to almost grab 50 asians that were staring at things or taking pictures and walking right into me. I shouldn't have to watch out for them. They're the ones who will get knocked over.
 
People not even paying attention to their surroundings. I was at Universal studios last week limping my big ass around and had to almost grab 50 asians that were staring at things or taking pictures and walking right into me. I shouldn't have to watch out for them. They're the ones who will get knocked over.

Ha! You know I have thought about that problem a lot when I was in some of the cities in Asia, like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seoul, Singapore.
You would be appalled to be packed onto a commuter train like they do in Tokyo. They actually do have people employed to push people in so the doors will shut.
I was on one train where we where so jammed in, I would have freaked out but for I was way the tallest anywhere near me. Head above the crowd, looked down and this small lady jammed into my armpit, but she was calmly enduring the unfortunate circumstances.

Sometimes is is so damn crowed even on the sidewalks that I need to take time out, shit I can't take this!!! Well they take it as the way it is. I think you are stuck with watching out. When you are accustomed to too many people, there isn't enough time to be polite to them all, so they don't exist and your space is your own.
 
While walking on the very crowded Ginza sidewalk in Tokyo, I was trying my hardest to watch out for others. Then I felt something wrong with my last step. I looked down, I had stepped on a very small tiny lady. She just smiled and walked on like nothing happened. But I felt like shit for not seeing her. How she got around in the 10 lane wide conga line going in four directions is beyond me.
 
We have an acceleration currently in progress today. We often learned the view of a person and their contempt of us before we meet the man. Others have cataloged and characterized us, even labeled us before we have greeted one another. Hard to accept one another in such expedient world, where this typing takes place before any possibility of a smile and handshake could possible alter the course.
 
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