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blazerkor said:
We don't have a damn clue what it would take for Dame to demand a trade because he hasn't done it. So maybe Joe can continue to make promises and then not keep them and Dame will just stay. That doesn't seem likely to me but it probably should since it's already happened so many times.
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Hi

It's June 27th. No promises about an off-season can be broken on June 27th.
 
illmatic99 said:
I don't think Derozan will do a damn thing to help our deficiencies on the floor.
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I also don't think DDR is a great complement to Grant for defense/rebounding, which I assume is your point. But another deficiency we had last year was an SF who could create his own shot. Dame, Shae, and DDR could all provide that. (Grant as well if he is the 4th option)
 
illmatic99 said:
I don't think Derozan will do a damn thing to help our deficiencies on the floor.
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He would be much better then playing the scrubs we had to for much of last season. So he could really help us become a legit playoff team.

But can he get us to contending? No chance - he sucks defensively and provides little court spacing. That Blazers team would get smoked in the playoffs.

Depends what the goal is.
 
andalusian said:
The man was in the building for 14 or 15 years, no? How do you know he did not interview? I am certain they have tons of knowledge of how he works and what he can bring to the job. He was basically promoted from within. It's absurd to assume there was no knowledge of his strengths and weaknesses.

Point by point:

"Over his head" - he seems like he knows what he wants and is diligently working to get there, started with tearing down a bad roster, signed assets he had to retain because he did not want to lose them for nothing, nailed 2 drafts in a row, created the framework to get Grant last year, tried to address a POA defender last year, once this backfired because of injury / whatever - quickly recovered by trading that asset and got a replacement in MT. I would argue that he seems like he is very well versed in understanding the complex job of rebuilding a roster on the fly trying to appease both a money situation, a need to win soon and prepare for the future.

"Has the owner / management watching his every move" - that's par for the course for every new leader in a specific role. Would seem like mismanagement if it did not happen.

"Gave him the job because he could be controlled" - well, duh, owners / management always want to ensure the success of the business and will not bring someone that opposes their goals. Can't really understand this qualm at all.

"He didn’t have to interview for the job" - As mentioned above, I doubt it very much, they had him in the building for a long time - even if there was no direct interview right now - he has been vetted for a long while and fits what management wants.

Frankly, sometimes I do not understand the arguments. If he makes a bad call, it's fair to criticize him. He made one in the GP2 signing, not necessarily knowing how the injury issue will unravel, but he clearly fixed it quickly and decisively.

The Dude clearly knows what he is doing. We agree he seems to try and do his best, but we disagree that he has no idea what is doing. It is very clear that he has a very clear idea of what he wants to do and he works diligently with what he has to work with to achieve it.

Does not ensure he will make it, because it is not all in his control, but every move seems measured, calculated and when it goes wrong, rectified when possible. Can't really ask for more than this, imho.
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Agree 100%. I've been impressed.
 
perkinsfor3 said:
Speaking of Marang, why does he post so much nonsense?

"Luka, Tatum, Trae & Ja being the only players as the #1 (as Scoot would be) here that have the ball in their hands and ultimately responsible for their teams winning (Hali if you squint)."
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Haliburton is a insanely good PG at his age.

"Trading a guy who’s the 4th most important player on the team ruins adding the guy that on his own was the best offense in the league last year is certainly a way to frame something."
> About Nic Claxton. Fourth best? Dude...
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Everyone who has a brain needs to block Marang. He offers nothing. Never listen to a word he says. Hes the worst out of the entire NBA.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
He would be much better then playing the scrubs we had to for much of last season. So he could really help us become a legit playoff team.

But can he get us to contending? No chance - he sucks defensively and provides little court spacing. That Blazers team would get smoked in the playoffs.

Depends what the goal is.
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Yeah but with Dame, Shae, and Grant on the floor...they can provide spacing for him. He is not a great defender, but I don't think he "sucks". I read a couple of articles that suggested he has gotten better over the years.
 
Paine Tablet said:
I don't know, I think the Scoot hype is a far worse phenomenon. People like you are excited to throw away a player like Dame because you are mesmerized by a short guy with big hands who has never done shit.
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"Short"? He's about an inch taller than Dame is.

"Throw away"? I don't know if you've, like, read my posts but I've said repeatedly there's no reason to trade Dame. I've done so since the draft. Just like, before the draft, I said that we should trade Dame if it makes sense. You can ascribe all sorts of bad intentions to me (or others) but "throwing away" is simply not the case.

As for "Scoop hype"... I have no idea what you're talking about. It is not primarily Blazers fans that are saying he was the second-best player in the draft and that he would be the #1 overall pick in many drafts. It's not hype that he's the youngest player in G League history and was impressive enough to convince people that he's the best PG prospect in years.

For whatever reason, though, you seem more interested in being angry than in paying attention to facts.
 
illmatic99 said:
I don't think Derozan will do a damn thing to help our deficiencies on the floor.
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While it's true that Demar DeRozan's impact on the basketball court may not directly translate to more wins for the Blazers, there's an often overlooked aspect where he could make a significant difference: the locker room cleanliness. Think about it—having a player like DeRozan, known for his work ethic and team-first attitude, actively contributing to keeping the locker room tidy would be a boon for the janitorial staff.

Maintaining a clean and organized space is vital for team morale and overall hygiene. DeRozan's willingness to roll up his sleeves and assist the janitorial staff in their duties would create a positive atmosphere and show his commitment to the team beyond just his on-court performance. It would also inspire his teammates to follow suit and take responsibility for their surroundings.

Remember, a clean and well-kept locker room can have a direct impact on the team's mindset and cohesion. It's not just about wins and losses; it's about fostering a supportive environment where everyone contributes to the team's success. So, even though DeRozan's assistance may not directly influence game outcomes, his contributions to locker room cleanliness would be highly appreciated by the janitorial staff, making him a valuable addition to any team.
 
wizenheimer said:
That may be the most salient and accurate tweet posted in this forum in weeks. And it sure applies to this forum as well
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Yup, even when Travis doesnt mean for it to be on this forum, his tweet shows up and instantly becomes the voice of reason. Thats talent!
 
Whyachi said:
J.Quick tossed the toradol alien face hugger at Cronin after the Payton trade. His good guy, bad guy act is quite annoying. Surprised the team still allows one of the world's biggest trolls to be a Blazers reporter.
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I actually appreciate that he isn't emotionally rooting for Dame or for Cronin... he's just trying to give objective analysis on things. And that analysis has been justifiably criticism the last few years. Not only has the team been terrible on the court, it's been inconsistent in its messaging off of it.

I don't always agree with Quick, but in the age of media cheerleading, it's nice to see someone be willing to call out bad moves, bad messaging, and bad results.
 
Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte said:
While it's true that Demar DeRozan's impact on the basketball court may not directly translate to more wins for the Blazers, there's an often overlooked aspect where he could make a significant difference: the locker room cleanliness. Think about it—having a player like DeRozan, known for his work ethic and team-first attitude, actively contributing to keeping the locker room tidy would be a boon for the janitorial staff.

Maintaining a clean and organized space is vital for team morale and overall hygiene. DeRozan's willingness to roll up his sleeves and assist the janitorial staff in their duties would create a positive atmosphere and show his commitment to the team beyond just his on-court performance. It would also inspire his teammates to follow suit and take responsibility for their surroundings.

Remember, a clean and well-kept locker room can have a direct impact on the team's mindset and cohesion. It's not just about wins and losses; it's about fostering a supportive environment where everyone contributes to the team's success. So, even though DeRozan's assistance may not directly influence game outcomes, his contributions to locker room cleanliness would be highly appreciated by the janitorial staff, making him a valuable addition to any team.
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Your posts hit different, and my trying to understand it is hitting differently too. I feel weird.
 
Ed O said:
I actually appreciate that he isn't emotionally rooting for Dame or for Cronin... he's just trying to give objective analysis on things. And that analysis has been justifiably criticism the last few years. Not only has the team been terrible on the court, it's been inconsistent in its messaging off of it.

I don't always agree with Quick, but in the age of media cheerleading, it's nice to see someone be willing to call out bad moves, bad messaging, and bad results.
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Person vendetta, though, which is what Quick has, makes it come off as bitter. May technically still be right, of course. But bitter.

Now Marang is 5000x worse. lol. Hes just a fucking joke without a fucking clue.
 
BassPlaya said:
I think having to listen to him and Steven Ahole at the same time would be damned near torture.
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Oh lord. And with Marangs fake laugh on top of it.

Marang reminds me of the dude at the bar that never feels like he's being heard by the ENTIRE bar, so he just keeps trying to be louder and louder, with less and less substance until the crowd either leaves or tells him to shut the fuck up.
 
illmatic99 said:
link? Shaedon and Beckner is not a thing. Not sure why you would assume this.

Sharpe has his own longstanding trainer Francis Kiapway.

https://instagram.com/fkiapway
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I heard it on the a podcast, can't remember which one but it didn't mention that they exclusively worked out with Beckner..just that they had. Dame has been all over the map since the draft
 
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