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This is the thread to end all after loss threads. Should we make this a membership only thread?

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kjironman1 said:
BUMP!
Definitely time to bump this!
I was so very right with my prediction. 10 games in and it's total chaos on the board!
The posters leading the way happen to be the very same posters that were all telling everyone 52 to 55 wins was a "reasonable expectation" because of how much improved this roster is! Those same posters have the Blazers finishing 2nd seed this year.
http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/th...-loss-predictions-thread.350373/#post-4843781
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Of the tough 20 games to start the season we are about to start the most difficult part of that stretch though. We've played the 76ers at home without Embiid, the Warriors without their entire starting 5 (Curry, Russell, Thompson, Green, and Looney), and the Kings without their 2 best players (Fox and Bagley). Win those 3 winnable games and we're 7-4 instead of 4-7 even with our own injuries and a tough schedule. Then we're still okay if we struggle on this tough road trip.

That is not being unreasonable KJ. Not even remotely close.
 
How is this thread only 26 pages long? I am surprised it's not 260 pages long after the way this season is going.
 
hoopsjock said:
Of the tough 20 games to start the season we are about to start the most difficult part of that stretch though. We've played the 76ers at home without Embiid, the Warriors without their entire starting 5 (Curry, Russell, Thompson, Green, and Looney), and the Kings without their 2 best players (Fox and Bagley). Win those 3 winnable games and we're 7-4 instead of 4-7 even with our own injuries and a tough schedule. Then we're still okay if we struggle on this tough road trip.

That is not being unreasonable KJ. Not even remotely close.
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Even more so. If they hit another shot against the Spurs and hit one against the Nets they are 9-2. They didn't and they aren't. The place is on full meltdown.
There have been stinkers like the loss to GS and there have been losses like last night where they looked completely out of sorts. There have been losses where they should have won. There have been losses where they had every chance to win the game and it just didn't happen.
52-55 wins this year is indeed still obtainable even if they struggle on this road trip. I personally will stick with 48 and be very happy if that happens.
 
THE HCP said:
See I have brought this up in the past and have gotten killed for it. I have been blasted for using the terms “unrealistic expectations” and “setting yourselves up for failure”. Of course you are going to be absolutely freaking out right now........if you actually thought this team was capable of winning as many games as last season. This squad may still turn things around and have a good season, but there’s a fine line between having a positive outlook, as opposed to an unrealistic one. On a side note, a lot of those thinking we were heading back to the WCF claimed the Lakers would suck this season. #OOPS
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The Lakers will suck this season...book it!
 
kjironman1 said:
Even more so. If they hit another shot against the Spurs and hit one against the Nets they are 9-2. They didn't and they aren't. The place is on full meltdown.
There have been stinkers like the loss to GS and there have been losses like last night where they looked completely out of sorts. There have been losses where they should have won. There have been losses where they had every chance to win the game and it just didn't happen.
52-55 wins this year is indeed still obtainable even if they struggle on this road trip. I personally will stick with 48 and be very happy if that happens.
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Ahhh yes, the old cliche answer of there are always games that could go either way. For your next point will you mention how Denver lost to Atlanta so all good teams have bad losses?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Honestly... So far this year if they didn't have Dame they'd be one of the worst teams in the league... Even with Dame well, the record isn't great.
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We are one of the worst teams in the league.

Dame leads the league in EWA btw. So basically all our wins are attributed to Dame. Can't really argue that.
 
barfo said:
@!? WTF does @! mean? You kids and your emojibonics, I just want you off my damn lawn! Now, punk!

barfo
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Hey, get off my case. When a man's got to take a leak a man's got to take a leak. Look at it this way, finally some of your shrubbery will turn green. You're welcome.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Honestly... So far this year if they didn't have Dame they'd be one of the worst teams in the league... Even with Dame well, the record isn't great.
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They are one of the worst teams in the NBA. Some injured guys got to get better. Heal, dammit, heal.
 
e_blazer said:
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Looks like he's getting a blow job from the great ice queen.
 
hoopsjock said:
Ahhh yes, the old cliche answer of there are always games that could go either way. For your next point will you mention how Denver lost to Atlanta so all good teams have bad losses?
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Sorry you think truth is a cliche'. Usually i just call that "As fate would have it".
 
kjironman1 said:
Even more so. If they hit another shot against the Spurs and hit one against the Nets they are 9-2. They didn't and they aren't. The place is on full meltdown.
There have been stinkers like the loss to GS and there have been losses like last night where they looked completely out of sorts. There have been losses where they should have won. There have been losses where they had every chance to win the game and it just didn't happen.
52-55 wins this year is indeed still obtainable even if they struggle on this road trip. I personally will stick with 48 and be very happy if that happens.
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We're closer to being 1-10 than we are to being 9-2, so the "meltdown" is more justified than your optimism.
 
BonesJones said:
We're closer to being 1-10 than we are to being 9-2, so the "meltdown" is more justified than your optimism.
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Well we pretty much called it before the beginning of the season. I'm not real optimistic either. But at least i didn't go all in on winning through the beginning of the season or even being 7-4 let alone 9-2.
 
kjironman1 said:
Well we pretty much called it before the beginning of the season. I'm not real optimistic either. But at least i didn't go all in on winning through the beginning of the season or even being 7-4 let alone 9-2.
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I did too, but that was assuming that Philly wouldn't be missing Embiid, Golden State wouldn't be missing Dray, D'Lo, and Steph, and that Sacremento wouldn't be missing Fox and Bagley. We're losing games we have no business losing, and the gameplan and scheme problems have been exacerbated instead of improving.
 
The meltdown thread should be renamed "whelp, this is who we are now. Lets embrace it" thread. Because its much more truthful and accurate.
 
BonesJones said:
I did too, but that was assuming that Philly wouldn't be missing Embiid, Golden State wouldn't be missing Dray, D'Lo, and Steph, and that Sacremento wouldn't be missing Fox and Bagley. We're losing games we have no business losing, and the gameplan and scheme problems have been exacerbated instead of improving.
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You did.
Not sure what we are doing here? We are in agreement from what i can see. We both knew this was going to be a tough start. We both agreed that 10-10 would be a good start. We both agree that injuries have taken their toll. But to say after all of that they they are losing games they have no business losing just seems like some weird unwillingness to accept that those are enough reasons to struggle.
The Blazers lost their front court from last year and have basically played half their games this year with end of bench players filling the spots of the new front court. How could you possibly feel they have no excuse for losing games? Injuries to Collins, Whiteside, and Skal should be included into any metric you have for playing and winning games. Do i need to bring up schedule again?
 
Strenuus said:
The meltdown thread should be renamed "whelp, this is who we are now. Lets embrace it" thread. Because its much more truthful and accurate.
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I prefer the "where are we going because I know where we've been" title
 
kjironman1 said:
You did.
Not sure what we are doing here? We are in agreement from what i can see. We both knew this was going to be a tough start. We both agreed that 10-10 would be a good start. We both agree that injuries have taken their toll. But to say after all of that they they are losing games they have no business losing just seems like some weird unwillingness to accept that those are enough reasons to struggle.
The Blazers lost their front court from last year and have basically played half their games this year with end of bench players filling the spots of the new front court. How could you possibly feel they have no excuse for losing games? Injuries to Collins, Whiteside, and Skal should be included into any metric you have for playing and winning games. Do i need to bring up schedule again?
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We are, I'm simply pointing out that the tenor probably would've been a bit different had those teams have been at full strength. We missed out on an opportunity we should've taken advantage of, and we're not playing well right now. The Warriors, Kings, and Sixers games were games we should've won. You're talking about the Blazers losing their frontcourt from last year but the Warriors lost their entire starting 5, Philly didn't have Embiid, and Sacremento didn't have Fox or Bagley. All three of those teams were without their best player, two of them were without two of their top 3 players... so I'm just tired of hearing that reasoning because you could say the same about the teams we've been losing to...
 
The shear hubris of Olshey thinking he could gut a WCF team, and make it an instant contender, SMH
 
Sorry for the meltdown. I just get so darned frustrated sometimes.
 
BonesJones said:
We are, I'm simply pointing out that the tenor probably would've been a bit different had those teams have been at full strength. We missed out on an opportunity we should've taken advantage of, and we're not playing well right now. The Warriors, Kings, and Sixers games were games we should've won. You're talking about the Blazers losing their frontcourt from last year but the Warriors lost their entire starting 5, Philly didn't have Embiid, and Sacremento didn't have Fox or Bagley. All three of those teams were without their best player, two of them were without two of their top 3 players... so I'm just tired of hearing that reasoning because you could say the same about the teams we've been losing to...
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I know who was playing. They were ugly games.
 
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