Exclusive Meltdown Thread

[kjironman1]

Meltdown in full force right about now.
Multiple posters trowing in the towel and simply not gonna watch anymore.
Even more saying it's time to tank!
Some are actually hoping Melo can save the season!

This is indeed "Meltdown" material!

 

[kjironman1]

Yep it all happened by 14 games into the season!
Fire the Coach!
Fire Neil Olshey!
We have one "Trade Damian Lillard"!
We got dudes saying the team isn't even worth recording let alone watching.

All this and more should be placed here.... IN THE MELTDOWN THREAD!

 

[Blazinaway]

Yep it all happened by 14 games into the season!
Fire the Coach!
Fire Neil Olshey!
We have one "Trade Damian Lillard"!
We got dudes saying the team isn't even worth recording let alone watching.

All this and more should be placed here.... IN THE MELTDOWN THREAD!

There is a lot of reasons to be depressed by this team, one just has to watch the games. From injuries to a lot of new pieces that appear pretty damn crappy and don't seem to fit together this appears a lost season. I suggest giving Ant and Nas all the time they need to develop and look toward next year and not to over play Dame and CJ with too many minutes. Nurk is likely coming back too late to make a significant difference and Collins likely not at all. With our large expiring's and likely a good pick we have a solid chance to rebuild this trade deadline/next summer and look forward to next season. I'll be happy to be proven wrong on this outlook but I doubt there is any big turn around. Looks like we picked up a couple of grms the last two drafts, ;ets develop them as much as possible and get them ready to significantly contribute next season.

 

[kjironman1]

There is a lot of reasons to be depressed by this team, one just has to watch the games. From injuries to a lot of new pieces that appear pretty damn crappy and don't seem to fit together this appears a lost season. I suggest giving Ant and Nas all the time they need to develop and look toward next year and not to over play Dame and CJ with too many minutes. Nurk is likely coming back too late to make a significant difference and Collins likely not at all. With our large expiring's and likely a good pick we have a solid chance to rebuild this trade deadline/next summer and look forward to next season. I'll be happy to be proven wrong on this outlook but I doubt there is any big turn around. Looks like we picked up a couple of grms the last two drafts, ;ets develop them as much as possible and get them ready to significantly contribute next season.

Solid take. Can’t say you are wrong.
I’m going to wait it out through the first two months and then take a look at what they have at the midway point.

 

[Blazinaway]

Solid take. Can’t say you are wrong.
I’m going to wait it out through the first two months and then take a look at what they have at the midway point.

If this losing and lousy play continues I just want to get the most we can from this season, I do have concerns how Dame may react to this season. He is such a warrior can he accept a mediocre, no playoff year and tool up for next yr?

 

[Reep]

My take is that this season has shown the only way for this team to win is to have healthy team defenders at the 3-5. With Collins and Nurkic out, the weaknesses of the guards is exposed. So, for those who like CJ in the backcourt with Dame, you better pray that once Collins and Nurkic come back, that neither of them gets injured in the future, as we have no way to overcome that while CJ shares the defensive guard duties with Dame.

 

[TBpup]

My worry is they win just enough games to be cannon fodder for some #1 or #2 seed, or barely miss the Playoffs and end up with a crappy Lottery pick. The are already 4.5 games out of HCA....in just 15 games. With very rare exceptions, you need to start with HCA to have any shot at being a legit contender. That is not anywhere near where this team is now and I don't see them getting there soon enough to close the gap.

The nearest 'help' is quite a few games away and Nurk likely won't be himself this season even if he does come back before the end of the year. Collins likely won't be back at all. It is what it is. Bigger picture is to do what you can to be the best you can be next season. Unfortunately, that means losing more games than you would like to this year. It doesn't guarantee anything, but at least gives you a better shot to legitimately contend for a title.

 

[Blazinaway]

My take is that this season has shown the only way for this team to win is to have healthy team defenders at the 3-5. With Collins and Nurkic out, the weaknesses of the guards is exposed. So, for those who like CJ in the backcourt with Dame, you better pray that once Collins and Nurkic come back, that neither of them gets injured in the future, as we have no way to overcome that while CJ shares the defensive guard duties with Dame.

another good take that I fully agree with

 

[hoopsjock]

Yep it all happened by 14 games into the season!
Fire the Coach!
Fire Neil Olshey!
We have one "Trade Damian Lillard"!
We got dudes saying the team isn't even worth recording let alone watching.

All this and more should be placed here.... IN THE MELTDOWN THREAD!

In defense of some posters, those things were often said prior to this season as well. Except the not watching/supporting thing is ridiculous. It shows who only cares when the going is good.

 

[wizenheimer]

I kind of remember the discussions, before the season began, about the first 20 games. What the record might be and what it might mean. What I recall was that almost nobody was imagining the kind of shit-show we've seen. People were talking about 10-10, with 9-11 maybe being about the worst case considering the roster turnover. They weren't thinking 5-10 after 15 games with a very real possibility of being 7-14 after 21 games. If Portland is 7-14, then even if they matched their winning percentage of last season (about the time hell freezes), they'd win 46 games. Yeah, that's the kind of hole they are digging

the first 15 games have shown the miscalculations; by fans, and frankly, by the front office:

* Whiteside shores up some C weaknesses for Portland, but he creates new ones. I guess we're seeing the reasons why he was demoted to bench duty last season. Portland would probably be better off with Harkless and Meyers than Whiteside. But it's sure a relief to not see Meyers as the starting C this year

* Bazemore is not a significant upgrade over Turner, at least not yet. His flaws are probably as big as Turner's. But his strength is that we don't have to watch Turner

* the 3 veteran minimum signings have been a total bust. I remember arguing with people here about both Tolliver and Hezonja. That nothing they had done in their careers had warranted the confidence Olshey had in them or the optimism fans had. And Gasol is beginning to look like Ezeli ver2

* there was nothing behind Zach and almost nothing behind Whiteside. The ice couldn't have been thinner and it broke 3 games into the season. IMO, Olshey's habit of essentially forcing Stotts to play the guys he wants to see play by giving Stotts no options behind them has bit the team hard this year

and, the first 15 games have revealed those things. Yeah, the Blazers are dealing with huge roster turnover and an injury (Nurkic was always going to miss a bunch of games). But several other teams are dealing with big roster changes and injuries. What is depressing is that the flaws Portland had have become worse, not better; a great rebounding team has become a bad rebounding team; a decent defensive team has become a poor defensive team; a team perennially toward the bottom in passing offense has dropped to a historically low level...and there don't appear to be any easy answers within the roster

the schedule is going to get easier, and after the game at LAC on the 3rd, Portland will have a 34-27 home/road advantage over the last 61 games. But unless Portland can completely change the way they are playing, that won't matter much

 

[Sarni]

I don’t really mind having this below par season. We are struggling with injuries, we probably won’t have a meaningful run in the playoffs anyway.

My fear is that we will be desperate to make it into postseason and will make a dumb trade around January, like offer one or more of our bright young prospects (Simons, Little, Collins) along with this years pick to acquire someone like Love or Griffin, who will ultimately limit our possibilities of improvement going forward.

 

[Reep]

I don’t really mind having this below par season. We are struggling with injuries, we probably won’t have a meaningful run in the playoffs anyway.

My fear is that we will be desperate to make it into postseason and will make a dumb trade around January, like offer one or more of our bright young prospects (Simons, Little, Collins) along with this years pick to acquire someone like Love or Griffin, who will ultimately limit our possibilities of improvement going forward.

I have the same fear. I think this losing spell should lead to one of two actions: 1) recognize that having two shortish, non-defensive starting guards presents real challenges and should be rethought; or 2) Dame and CJ can work, but only when. we have strong defensive players at the 3-5--therefore, we need to shore up the 3-5 backup positions with strong defenders so that when injuries arise, we aren't left swinging in the wind like we are now.

 

[AldoTrapani]

What a complete disaster of a season.

 

[Orion Bailey]

This is getting serious.

I will admit this. It sucks but tomorrow is probably must win. It is crazy to say a game in November is must win, but it pretty much is. I will be very down on the team if we lose either of the next two games.

 

[kjironman1]

This is getting serious.

Yep. If Kingspeed is calling a game in November a must win game things are a bit tight.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Enjoying each day as it comes.

I am watching it all: sports games, wins, meltdowns. Doesn't matter to me. It's all entertainment, baby!

 

[kjironman1]

Meltdown! Meltdown! Meltdown!

 

[riverman]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

Oh man, that's a major bummer...
I hope things get better, and no need for another surgery.

 

[Phatguysrule]

As long as we have players the caliber of Nurk, Collins, CJ, and Dame coming back, this season will be a great opportunity to improve the team long term.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope your health improves starting now.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

I hope things improve for you, buddy. We had to change dad's diet and lifestyle considerably after his major stroke a few years ago.

 

[Dougnsalem]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

Good luck with that one....

You'll get better soon! How about tea? Is that ok?

 

[Dougnsalem]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

And I liked your post, because you let us know what is going on; not because of what is going on. I highly suspect that you already knew that. Think positive. Things will get better. You already knew that too though....

 

[kjironman1]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

Hang in there my friend.

 

[wizenheimer]

Went to my heart doctor yesterday and I've had a setback....back on meds today right as I'm recovered from my surgery....if this doesn't fix it in 6 months I'm going to need heart surgery in a year. Now I can't drink coffee anymore either! Man.....it just keeps coming. Going back under the paddles Dec 20.....Merry fuckin' Xmas riverman! Damnit I should live longer than Keith Richards!

first off...Richards is an alien android. That's the only explanation for how somebody who should have croaked at 46 is still alive at 76

2nd...really sorry to hear about your health problems. Now, if it was me, I wouldn't object so much to a health issue if it happened around Christmas because it would be a great reason not to see the in-laws. I've run out of those and they never worked anyway....dammmit

tell me about the coffee issue. About 15 years ago my heart started to go batshit. All kinds of irregular beats. I probably don't have to tell you that when your heart is being a jerk, you can't ignore it. It's kind of right in the center of everything you are. In my case it was PVC's (pre-mature ventricular contractions). What that is: your heartbeat is organized by a tiny node of cells at the base of the aorta. It sends a little electrical signal to tiny nodes of cells at the base of the ventricles. Those nodes have rhythm man (which makes me wonder about Keith Richard's heart). Anyway, in PVC's, one of the nodes of cells on a ventricle has too many cells in it. It gets impatient and jumps the gun and then, that whole beat is disrupted...irrgular heartbeat and it sucks

but it's not really health threatening...just a major annoyance. The gist of the story is that what was energizing that damn ventricular node, in my case, was the caffeine in coffee....and I really loved my morning jolt of joe. Had to give it up and it was horrible. But I did and the PVC's stopped. I really liked the morning ritual of coffee so I switched to de-caffeinated, with an allowance for a couple of times a month going full-bore on the real stuff. It took a while but I don't really miss it

anyway, again, sorry about your problems. Hoping you get better

 

[Blazers1977]

This game is a must win.

THIS may perhaps be the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end to the blazers franchise.

Michael Jordan never lost to the cavs. Stephan Curry never lost to the cavs. If we lose this game, ALL IS LOST!

We will need to sell the the team and execute Stotts at Tiananmen Square. CJ should then be crucified from the hoops at Moda Center. And Dame should, of course, get a pay raise.

We all know Dame has a heart of gold, and unlike ME-J he’s all about winning but how many more losses can Dame’s massive heart take? If we lost this game, this man is going to need a heart transplant after how heartbroken he is about his heart and passion. When you consider what his heart has done done for this city, team, and country - I would give this man my own heart.

but ONLY if we lose THIS game. This is a “MUST” win!

 

[riverman]

I would give this man my own heart.

nobody would want mine about now

 

[kjironman1]

Those nodes have rhythm man (which makes me wonder about Keith Richard's heart)

This is pretty classic.

 

[kjironman1]

This game is a must win.

THIS may perhaps be the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end to the blazers franchise.

Michael Jordan never lost to the cavs. Stephan Curry never lost to the cavs. If we lose this game, ALL IS LOST!

We will need to sell the the team and execute Stotts at Tiananmen Square. CJ should then be crucified from the hoops at Moda Center. And Dame should, of course, get a pay raise.

We all know Dame has a heart of gold, and unlike ME-J he’s all about winning but how many more losses can Dame’s massive heart take? If we lost this game, this man is going to need a heart transplant after how heartbroken he is about his heart and passion. When you consider what his heart has done done for this city, team, and country - I would give this man my own heart.

but ONLY if we lose THIS game. This is a “MUST” win!

Somebody gets it! Full Blown Meltdown!