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Who would you rather have guarding a LeBron, Kawhi, or PG in the playoffs? Baze or Iggy?
 
GhostOfPGA said:
Who would you rather have guarding a LeBron, Kawhi, or PG in the playoffs? Baze or Iggy?
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Bazemore

Kawhi will lock down Dame. Having a better offense around him would be our only hope. We'll still lose, but maybe not get embarrassed
 
Natebishop3 said:
Go look at Iggy’s stats. How is he way better?
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How is he way better? Last season, Iguodala had an effective shooting percentage of 58 percent, which is ridiculous for a non-center, vs Bazemore's eFG% of 47%, which is horrible, same as Evan Turner.

Iguodala had 4.9 assists per 36 minutes with only 1.2 turnovers for an unreal 4.0 assist/turnover ratio.

Kent Bazemore had 3.3 assists per 36 minutes with 2.7 turnovers for a lousy turnover/assist ratio of 1.2 This is worse than AFA (1.4) and Harkless (1.6)

Iguodala is a high IQ player on both ends of the court. He would be the playmaker than we hoped Evan Turner would become.

I am not sure we'll even want Bazemore to touch the ball much on offense if his shooting stinks. There's a chance, with his salary, that he'll be the new Meyers Leonard/Evan Turner.
His shooting stunk last season, and 3 seasons ago. 2 seasons ago, his shooting was OK (50% eFG) but still below what AFA shot last season, 51% eFG%.
I'm sure he's a swell guy and plays good defense, but so did Evan Turner.

I don't know if Blazer fans are expecting a Tony Allen type player, but that's what I think we'll see.
For some reason people are forgetting that players take 2-point shots as well (usually more) as 3-point shots, and 35 percent 3-point shooting is undone by 46 percent 2-point shooting.
But all anyone wants to talk about is his career 35 percent 3-point shooting.
 
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Tough call. Great arguments both side. Do we have a player who can defend LeBron? or Leonard? We got good shooters on the team and Iggy isn't a bad shooter.
Honestly, who cares what happens in 2 years? Which player can impact our game more next year alone? Based on what I seen this year, I would say Iggy ... more than Baze.
 
We just lost Aminu and Hark. Not saying it's bad. We had to move them cos they both were Batum case of giving their best sometimes only. Saying that I remember both were our top defenders. Yet, you preffer Baze, cos he can shoot better. Yogi Ferrel and others making career games on us will thank you for this.

Apart of ignoring defence another thing bunch of you seems to ignore for good few years is vets. I made about million post about vets in the past.
Experience that Baze can give you in the finals is so much better than Iggi's exp surely. I remember Tyson Chandler was to old for you two years ago, Vince Carter was to old too.
I think Iggy would make us move step forward. Baze? Is he moving the needle really? Really?
 
royo said:
We just lost Aminu and Hark. Not saying it's bad. We had to move them cos they both were Batum case of giving their best sometimes only. Saying that I remember both were our top defenders. Yet, you preffer Baze, cos he can shoot better. Yogi Ferrel and others making career games on us will thank you for this.

Apart of ignoring defence another thing bunch of you seems to ignore for good few years is vets. I made about million post about vets in the past.
Experience that Baze can give you in the finals is so much better than Iggi's exp surely. I remember Tyson Chandler was to old for you two years ago, Vince Carter was to old too.
I think Iggy would make us move step forward. Baze? Is he moving the needle really? Really?
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We needed to do something to account for teams trapping us. Stotts isnt gonna change so it had to be roster-wise.

We seemed ti be fine defensively in thebplayoffs with a Hood/Collins/Kanter frontcourt, so I dont understand your reservations about a Hood/Collins/Whitesode frontcourt.
 
Another thing about Iggy is he can handle the ball. Besides our three guards, who else can be trusted to do that?
 
GhostOfPGA said:
Can we really trust him?
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sure....he has played pt guard his whole life until he had the growth spurt after getting drafted...he identifies as a pt guard and says he'll take ETs role that way because he went from being drafted at 6'6 190lbs to 6'9 240 lbs....he put up some big numbers last few Knick games of the season when they let him run the offense...my question is if Trent Jr handles have improved enough to play some pt
 
GhostOfPGA said:
Can we really trust him?
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No, we can’t. Hejonza had an assist/turnover ratio of 1 assist to 1 turnover last season. No player could be a playmaker with that number.


Turner’s was over 2 assists per turnover last season.

Iguodala had an assist/turnover ratio of 4.0 last season.
 
Iggy seems like hes got some attitude about not getting the buyout and being able to sign where he wanted, I would stay away from trading for him in case he has a tantrum due to not wanting to play for us.
 
DollaBel said:
Iggy seems like hes got some attitude about not getting the buyout and being able to sign where he wanted, I would stay away from trading for him in case he has a tantrum due to not wanting to play for us.
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Did he say he didn't want to play for us? Why are you inferring things that nobody has said? What does asking to be bought out have todo with not playing for 32 teams in the NBA? Geez ... some people are just !!!
 
blazerfan11 said:
No, we can’t. Hejonza had an assist/turnover ratio of 1 assist to 1 turnover last season. No player could be a playmaker with that number.
Turner’s was over 2 assists per turnover last season.
Iguodala had an assist/turnover ratio of 4.0 last season.
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There is indeed a strong case for Iggy. And I have to admit, I'm bias towards him because I haven't seen Baze play... Except in some meaningless highlights. The age factor seems to be the only thing against him ... And maybe his injury history.
But ... Is this the Kawhi scenario? Do you take a chance ... for a shot this year? Or do you keep building for a never ending tomorrow?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
In a New York Minute
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Great song.

Natebishop3 said:
Go look at Iggy’s stats. How is he way better?
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I think alot of stock is being put into the experience Iggy brings to the table. The vet leadership in the locker room of a guy who knows what it takes to go all the way with a team.


I think every team needs one of these. Worth sacrificing Baze for? I don't know, but right now we don't have a vet leader with championship experience on the roster.
 
I am not convinced Portland could get iguadala in a trade. what's in it for memphis?
 
Cugel said:
I am not convinced Portland could get iguadala in a trade. what's in it for memphis?
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It depends if anyone else offers anything good for him. Lakers won't - they can't afford him unless he's bought out. Warriors can't get him back. It would have to be some team like one of the Texas teams.

[Edit: I swear I hadn't seen this when I said the above. If Memphis wanted Tim Hardaway Jr. I'm sure it would already be done.]
 
Orion Bailey said:
Just it. They don't want salary back, I'm sure. They want picks.
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They GOT him because they could take on salary. They also got a nice pick for taking him on. Presumably Golden State made that trade because Memphis was the only team that would take him on for a pick. So somehow I don't think they're going to turn around and find some team that Golden State couldn't find.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
They GOT him because they could take on salary. They also got a nice pick for taking him on. Presumably Golden State made that trade because Memphis was the only team that would take him on for a pick. So somehow I don't think they're going to turn around and find some team that Golden State couldn't find.
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Different situation. Golden State did not want salary back. if Memphis can take back a salary from a team like Portland (along with a draft pick or some) then it opens up teams like Portland.

Are you saying that no team will give up something like a 2nd round pick to get Iguodala? Why would Memphis not do that trade if the alternative is to buy him out?

And if Memphis takes an equal salary back (like in a trade with Portland) they're in the same situation now except now they have a draft pick they didn't have before. They can buy out a player like Bazemore that nobody wants at his salary.
 
I could see Iggy returning to where it all started for him and ending his career in Philly..the east is a lot easier on an older vet than the west as far as the regular season grind...shorter flights, etc
 
I thought board rules were that Gary Trent Jr. had to be a part of any prospective trade ....
 
Orion Bailey said:
Great song.



I think alot of stock is being put into the experience Iggy brings to the table. The vet leadership in the locker room of a guy who knows what it takes to go all the way with a team.


I think every team needs one of these. Worth sacrificing Baze for? I don't know, but right now we don't have a vet leader with championship experience on the roster.
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That alone is worth it to me. That kind of leadership is huge, and he has proven he can make crucial defensive plays when they absolutely matter.
 
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