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Sinobas said:
CJ and Leonard to the Magic for Ibaka and Vucevic
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you arent thinking like the rest of us.

It is Dame and CJ for Ibaka and Vuecevic and then everyone will agree.
 
Heat turned down Vucevic and 1st for Dragic.

I think that tells you that Vucevic's stock isn't all that high around the league. And I know MIA already has a Center but Vucevic has some range so it isn't like he couldn't play with another big.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Heat turned down Vucevic and 1st for Dragic.

I think that tells you that Vucevic's stock isn't all that high around the league. And I know MIA already has a Center but Vucevic has some range so it isn't like he couldn't play with another big.
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Well even if he has some range he is a traditional C, cannot defend the perimeter. I don't say his stock is high but it would be a terrible fit for Miami so it's normal they rejected.
 
GDiama said:
Well even if he has some range he is a traditional C, cannot defend the perimeter. I don't say his stock is high but it would be a terrible fit for Miami so it's normal they rejected.
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If they were really rebuilding (like they are rumored to be considering) then it would make sense to accept the deal and then trade Whiteside. They would get a massive haul for him.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
If they were really rebuilding (like they are rumored to be considering) then it would make sense to accept the deal and then trade Whiteside. They would get a massive haul for him.
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Whiteside is about 10 times more important and valuable than Vucevic. They can get what they need only by trading Dragic. You don't need 10 picks to rebuild. They already have some good young players and they also have cap space. It's like us trading away both CJ and Dame. It doesn't make sense. You only need to trade one.
 
GDiama said:
Whiteside is about 10 times more important and valuable than Vucevic. They can get what they need only by trading Dragic. You don't need 10 picks to rebuild. They already have some good young players and they also have cap space. It's like us trading away both CJ and Dame. It doesn't make sense. You only need to trade one.
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I am just expanding on what they are reportedly giving thought to. They are the ones gauging his value and would move him in the right deal according to reports. I agree with you in theory but I don't put Dragic on CJs or Dames level so not same situation in my eyes.
 
What exactly do you think they are going to get that is a better deal? 2 firsts? Nah. Dragic is expiring.
 
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RR7 said:
Dragic has 3 seasons left after this, 3rd year a player option.
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Thanks. Apparently I was duped by fake Twitter user. Still not sure I see MIA getting a better deal. Maybe slightly better player than Vucevic but not two firsts.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Thanks. Apparently I was duped by fake Twitter user. Still not sure I see MIA getting a better deal. Maybe slightly better player than Vucevic but not two firsts.
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Agree with you on that one for sure. Maybe they look to expand it, flipping vuc elsewhere in a 3 team deal.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Thanks. Apparently I was duped by fake Twitter user. Still not sure I see MIA getting a better deal. Maybe slightly better player than Vucevic but not two firsts.
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Nah 1st and a decent player is what they can get I agree, but the player they ll get will fit in their system, not play the same position with their best player. No reason to do that because then they ll be looking for another trade and there is no point to do so. They have their top 5 pick to get a decent pg, so probably they deal Dragic to get another 1st and a decent wing or PF.
 
Willie Cauley-Stein is frustrated with his lack of playing time and production this season.

"I feel I was showing stuff at the end of last season that would make people say, ‘Oh, damn, they got a steal in the draft,’ " Cauley-Stein said. "Now it’s like I took 25 steps forward and 30 steps back. It’s like my whole rookie season didn’t matter and I’m back at square one. Nothing I did last year is having an effect on my career. It’s been very frustrating." After averaging 21.4 minutes per game last season, he's averaging just 10.9 this season. And he's averaging just 6.4 minutes per contest over the last month.
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He is probably not quite as good going forward but long-term he would be a lot cheaper than Plumlee.
 
I'd certainly trade Plumlee for him, I doubt the Kings would though.
 
I'd do Crabbe/Turner for WCS and an expiring.
 
dviss1 said:
No, the Kings wouldn't.
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They have no SGs or SFs for the future. They're gonna want to put talent around Cousins to keep him there. They're not a free agent destination. I think there's a chance they'd give us WCS + an expiring.
 
Cauley steins value is probably not much different than what we got Harkless for. He's just a theory at this point.

For a second rounder, I'd take a look. Maybe. Honestly never been impressed with him in the NBA, but I did like him in college.
 
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BonesJones said:
They have no SGs or SFs for the future. They're gonna want to put talent around Cousins to keep him there. They're not a free agent destination. I think there's a chance they'd give us WCS + an expiring.
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So that begs the question: Why would they want Crabbe and Turner? Neither of those two seem cut out for a starting role. Crabbe is way too passive and isn't much of anything other than a spot up shooter who doesn't defend. Turner is a little more versatile, but can't really shoot from outside, so that also limits his viability in today's NBA as a starting wing.

I'm not saying WCS is a great prospect who is going to command a king's ransom in the trade market, but I think you vastly overstate how desirable Crabbe and Turner are going to be, given their evident limitations and huge salaries.
 
Nikolokolus said:
So that begs the question: Why would they want Crabbe and Turner? Neither of those two seem cut out for a starting role. Crabbe is way too passive and isn't much of anything other than a spot up shooter who doesn't defend. Turner is a little more versatile, but can't really shoot from outside, so that also limits his viability in today's NBA as a starting wing.

I'm not saying WCS is a great prospect who is going to command a king's ransom in the trade market, but I think you vastly overstate how desirable Crabbe and Turner are going to be, given their evident limitations and huge salaries.
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Except, when he does start (in the rare occasions when Dame is out and Crabbe can be the second option) he is aggressive and produces well. He might could do the same in Sacramento.
 
Nikolokolus said:
So that begs the question: Why would they want Crabbe and Turner? Neither of those two seem cut out for a starting role. Crabbe is way too passive and isn't much of anything other than a spot up shooter who doesn't defend. Turner is a little more versatile, but can't really shoot from outside, so that also limits his viability in today's NBA as a starting wing.

I'm not saying WCS is a great prospect who is going to command a king's ransom in the trade market, but I think you vastly overstate how desirable Crabbe and Turner are going to be, given their evident limitations and huge salaries.
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Crabbe would be a good fit next to Cousins, and Turner would be some talent they could acquire for cheap. They're not that desirable but obviously they don't desire WCS.
 
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