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Mediocre Man said:
Ok, here goes.

Melo to Cavs
Love to Portland
Meyers, Crabbe, Harkless, 3 firsts to NY.

filler to make it work.

With Nurkic, Love fits here.
Bron wants Melo
NY, clears Melo and starts over with three firsts, plus young players
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Hmm, that is a lot to give up, but I think it is reasonable from the Portland side. I would love to keep one or two of those firsts, but . . .

Portland dumps a bunch of salary and gets a 20/11 PF, with a decent defensive rating and Stotts-friendly 3pt percent. You can't just add up the individual values of the players in consolidation trades. You have to give up more to get one really good player.

My primary concern on this is that if Love gets injured you are screwed, now and in the future.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Ok, here goes.

Melo to Cavs
Love to Portland
Meyers, Crabbe, Harkless, 3 firsts to NY.

filler to make it work.

With Nurkic, Love fits here.
Bron wants Melo
NY, clears Melo and starts over with three firsts, plus young players
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Did you send it to Neil?
 
In the trade of Chris Anderson the Cavs didn't have to send a pick out for CHA to take him, only "cash". In fact, they got a pick back (although they will never see it most likely as it is top 55 protected).
 
Sarni said:
Joakim Noah is the worst contract in the league.
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I was going to say Chandler Parsons, but then I saw NYK gave Noah 4 years, all fully guaranteed. The guy is 31 and played in 29 games last season, shot .383 FG% and .489 FT%. How is that even possible The guy is 7' tall and his average FG distance is 2.9 feet. Take out dunks and he shot .315 FG% last season. And, how the fuck do you suddenly forget how to shoot FTs? I know he's always had that horrendous, weird, sideways rotation shooting form, but he had 5 seasons in a row where he was around 75% from the line. This year, he's down to .436 FT%. That's Andre Drummond/DeAndre Jordan bad. For this, they reward him with a 4-year $72 million contract.

So yeah, I'd say it's a toss up between Parsons at 4 years $94 million and Noah at 4 years $72 million for worst contract in the league.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
I was going to say Chandler Parsons, but then I saw NYK gave Noah 4 years, all fully guaranteed. The guy is 31 and played in 29 games last season, shot .383 FG% and .489 FT%. How is that even possible The guy is 7' tall and his average FG distance is 2.9 feet. Take out dunks and he shot .315 FG% last season. And, how the fuck do you suddenly forget how to shoot FTs? I know he's always had that horrendous, weird, sideways rotation shooting form, but he had 5 seasons in a row where he was around 75% from the line. This year, he's down to .436 FT%. That's Andre Drummond/DeAndre Jordan bad. For this, they reward him with a 4-year $72 million contract.

So yeah, I'd say it's a toss up between Parsons at 4 years $94 million and Noah at 4 years $72 million for worst contract in the league.

BNM
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He stopped smoking weed.
 
Thing is, even with those Parsons/Biyombo/Mahinmi deals you could see an ounce of logic. Parsons was good at Dallas, Biyombo had this great two games against Miami (it was still mad to give him that contract) and Mahinmi has a good season for Indiana last year. All were terrible contracts but those teams had money to burn, everyone did last season, and from the start of FA it was clear that these players would be getting crazy deals.

From day one I did not understand why anybody was offering Noah a good deal. First Washington were linked, then New York came with this monstrosity of a contract.

I think cap going up by $24M/30% in a season is very bad for the sport. It m gives teams permission to overpay for free agents and basically puts these free agents from that season in a much more favorable position than class from another year. Even this season deals will not be anywhere near this crazy (which is why teams like Nuggets were right to wait). It's unfair advantage to that free agency class.
 
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chicago-bulls-exploring-trade-market/

The Chicago Bulls are exploring the trade market in search of a first-round draft pick in exchange for either center Robin Lopez or forward Doug McDermott, league sources told Basketball Insiders.

Chicago has its own 2017 first-round pick and is also owed Sacramento’s 2017 first-round pick. However, Sacramento’s pick is top-10 protected. Chicago is currently tied for the seventh seed in the Eastern Conference standings with the Detroit Pistons with a 26-29 record.
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Are either of those players even worth a low first rounder? I am not so sure.
 
Sarni said:
I think cap going up by $24M/30% in a season is very bad for the sport. It m gives teams permission to overpay for free agents and basically puts these free agents from that season in a much more favorable position than class from another year. Even this season deals will not be anywhere near this crazy (which is why teams like Nuggets were right to wait). It's unfair advantage to that free agency class.
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Which is why the League wanted the cap smoothing, but the players veto'd it. Instead of doing what is best for the NBA, it became a stupid pissing match between the Player's Union and the league.
 
tester551 said:
Which is why the League wanted the cap smoothing, but the players veto'd it. Instead of doing what is best for the NBA, it became a stupid pissing match between the Player's Union and the league.
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The players' union didn't agree to it because the league couldn't assure them that the players wouldn't end up losing any revenue with their smoothing scheme. It wasn't a pissing match, it was the thing these negotiations are always over: money and who gets it.
 
Sarni said:
McDermott is not worth anything. Robin Lopez is a good player.
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Ya and his contract isn't horrible but we just got Nurkic's who's is a lot better. Maybe we would have gave a very late 1st otherwise but not sure his value is as high as CHI is hoping.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Absolutely not. At this point, Mirotic is Aminnu without the defense (and crazy, out of control dribbling). He COULD bounce back, but do we really want to add another sub-.300 3-point shooter to this roster?

BNM
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It was Lopez and/or McDermott that the article was talking about. But basically what you said goes for at least 2 of the 3 anyways.
 
B-Roy said:
Chicago gave up two firsts - Jusuf Nurkic and Gary Harris - for McDermott, and both those players are better and have more trade value than McDermott. If I was a Bulls fan I would be pissed.
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We all make mistakes...
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KeepOnRollin said:
No. It means that NO has determined that AD is not a Center but is instead his best position is PF for them.
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He's always been his best at PF. Which is why it made ZERO sense when they gave us Rolo for nothing.

If you're going to start Okafor at center, AD is your best case PF. He has the length and lateral quickness to help erase Okafor's mistakes on the defensive end, and the face up jumper to allow Oakafor to operate on the long block on the offensive end.

One of the few trades NOP have made since drafting Davis that actually makes sense.

BNM
 
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