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The owner of the place I usually have lunch is a personal friend of Travis Outlaw. I have also seen the big guy in there a couple of times and it's clear they know each other well.

I was talking Blazers with the owner (I really don't know him at all as he's kind of a stoic person who rarely talks to people- in fact this is the first time we have really had a conversation together) and he states that Travis tells him he will not be with the team next year and will be involved in a trade. Just when the trade will be, or who for he does not know- only that Travis states it's going to be.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE remember I have this second hand from someone who does know Travis. It also may be Travis "thinks" he will get traded and I'm getting it with the spin added by his friend.

Nonetheless, I felt it my duty to report it here first. Also, out of respect, I will not give the name of the restaurant.
 
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Travis is just speculating based on the same information we all have ... that he sucked and that his position is being marginalized by people more talented than he is.

Interesting though.

-Pop
 
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Travis is just speculating based on the same information we all have ... that he sucked and that his position is being marginalized by people more talented than he is.

Interesting though.

-Pop

I think Travis is a bit better than that. He's also a good bargain by NBA standards.
 
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To resurect an old forums coin phrase with a new twist...

T.O. MUST GO!! That guy frustrates me more than any Blazer I have ever seen. :banghead:
 
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I think Travis is a bit better than that. He's also a good bargain by NBA standards.

I'd bet my house that a healthy Martell Webster would have been a bigger asset than Travis was this year, ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. Not to mention Rudy.

-Pop
 
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Deal...coming...soon?


But seriously, thanks for posting this.
 
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Assuming Kevin Pritchard doesn't want some sort of sanctions from the NBA for tampering, there's no way he's discussed a deal at this point. Travis may think the writing is on the wall or may have been told behind closed doors that the team would try to trade him, but he's merely speculating at this point. No deal is imminent. I don't think teams can discuss player moves until after the season through the day of the draft, then not until July 1.

EDIT: Ignore my point in this post. I was corrected further down in the thread.

-Pop
 
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Deal...coming...soon?


But seriously, thanks for posting this.

Geeze, this is a tough audience. :drumroll:

Look, I'm just the messenger passing along what I hear for the sake of the community. It's all true and valid and why am I getting kicked around for it??? :dunno:
 
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LINK to a story about you meeting the owner or it didnt happen
 
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HEY! I don't think I deserve that.

Hmmmmmmmmmm............... well, maybe so.

However, it is what I was told. So there.

I'm just joking. Travis used to love to hang out in that place before he turned 21. He was the Norm Peterson of Jiggles.
 
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Geeze, this is a tough audience. :drumroll:

Look, I'm just the messenger passing along what I hear for the sake of the community. It's all true and valid and why am I getting kicked around for it??? :dunno:

Just a joke my friend. Just a joke. I am glad you posted this.
 
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I'd bet my house that a healthy Martell Webster would have been a bigger asset than Travis was this year, ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. Not to mention Rudy.

-Pop

Webs would have made a huge difference for us this year. I think we'll all be pleasantly surprised by him next year.
 
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Assuming Kevin Pritchard doesn't want some sort of sanctions from the NBA for tampering, there's no way he's discussed a deal at this point. Travis may think the writing is on the wall or may have been told behind closed doors that the team would try to trade him, but he's merely speculating at this point. No deal is imminent. I don't think teams can discuss player moves until after the season through the day of the draft, then not until July 1.

-Pop

I thought any team not playing can make a trade as soon as their season ends up until the moratorium after the draft.
 
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I thought any team not playing can make a trade as soon as their season ends up until the moratorium after the draft.

The trade deadline actually only has the effect of deciding if a player can or cannot play for the playoffs. If a trade is made after the trade deadline, that player cannot participate for the receiving team during the playoffs. That is all it means. So yes, deals can be made.
 
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Assuming Kevin Pritchard doesn't want some sort of sanctions from the NBA for tampering, there's no way he's discussed a deal at this point. Travis may think the writing is on the wall or may have been told behind closed doors that the team would try to trade him, but he's merely speculating at this point. No deal is imminent. I don't think teams can discuss player moves until after the season through the day of the draft, then not until July 1.

-Pop
What?

Are you confusing restrictions on contacting/signing free agents?

Teams can make deals right now. They just don't usually until the playoffs are over.
 
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The trade deadline actually only has the effect of deciding if a player can or cannot play for the playoffs. If a trade is made after the trade deadline, that player cannot participate for the receiving team during the playoffs. That is all it means. So yes, deals can be made.

Hmmm ... I did not know that. Thanks maxiep and hasoos. Reps for both of you.

I think it's safe to assume that Pritchard is keeping his options open to deal with teams still in the playoffs though. I still doubt Travis knows anything is imminent.

-Pop
 
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if you want us to take you more seriously, you need to preface this with "Hold On To Your Shorts" or "My source in the Blazers Organization tells me"
 
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You also can not trade expiring contracts after the trade deadline. You can only trade players that are on guaranteed contracts or contracts that hold an option for the following season such as Blake/Outlaw. Of course you can still trade picks, cash, TPE's, etc...
 
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The trade deadline actually only has the effect of deciding if a player can or cannot play for the playoffs. If a trade is made after the trade deadline, that player cannot participate for the receiving team during the playoffs. That is all it means. So yes, deals can be made.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. That sounds more like the rule about acquiring waived players. There's a deadline by which a player has to be acquired to play in the playoffs (and Marbury's buyout went pretty much down to the wire). After that, teams can acquire waived players but they can't play in the playoffs.

As for trades, though, I'm almost certain that from the trade deadline until the playoffs, no trade can be made. Furthermore, I think that teams cannot make trades while they're still in the playoffs, but I believe trades are allowed amongst teams no longer in the playoffs. Wasn't the Chris Webber-Mitch Richmond trade a trade that happened while the playoffs were on?
 
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I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. That sounds more like the rule about acquiring waived players. There's a deadline by which a player has to be acquired to play in the playoffs (and Marbury's buyout went pretty much down to the wire). After that, teams can acquire waived players but they can't play in the playoffs.

As for trades, though, I'm almost certain that from the trade deadline until the playoffs, no trade can be made. Furthermore, I think that teams cannot make trades while they're still in the playoffs, but I believe trades are allowed amongst teams no longer in the playoffs. Wasn't the Chris Webber-Mitch Richmond trade a trade that happened while the playoffs were on?


I can't site any official sources, but I actually do believe I am correct. There is a vast difference between teams choosing to not make trades during the time of the year where it makes little sense, and it being against regulations to do so.
 
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Nonetheless, I felt it my duty to report it here first. Also, out of respect, I will not give the name of the restaurant.

Why can't you say "McDonalds"?
 
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From Larry Coon's Salary Cap FAQ (http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm ):
When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contracts?

A "no-trade" clause can be negotiated into an individual contract if the player has been in the NBA for at least eight seasons, and has played for the team with which he is signing for at least four seasons. They don't have to be the immediately prior four seasons -- for example, Horace Grant got a no-trade clause from Orlando when he signed with them in 2001. He had played for Orlando for four seasons, but had played for Seattle and Los Angeles in the interim. Very few players actually have one of these no-trade provisions. Otherwise, individually negotiated contracts may not contain no-trade clauses. The no-trade clause prevents the team from making a trade involving the player without the player's consent.
In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

  • For two months after receiving the player in trade or claiming him off waivers, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 72 for a special case where players can be traded together in less than two months.)
  • When the trading deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO.
  • For three months or until December 15th of that season (whichever is later) after signing a contract as a free agent. This obviously does not apply to the trade completing a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 76). Interestingly, however, it is unclear whether this rule prevents a player who has been signed-and-traded from being traded agiain prior to three months/December 15 (see question number 80).
  • For 30 days after signing as a draft pick.
  • Without the player's consent when the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season. This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team's qualifying offer for their fifth season. When the player consents to such a trade, the team loses its Larry Bird/Early Bird rights, and the player is considered a Non-Bird free agent. Note: when there is an option year involved, they can get around this regulation by invoking the option prior to the trade.
  • For one year after exercising the right of first refusal to keep a restricted free agent (however, the player can consent to a trade to any team except the team that tried to sign him).
  • After claiming a player on waivers, for 30 days if the player was claimed during a season, or until the first day of the next season if the player was claimed during the offseason.
  • A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
  • In the special case of players waived through the amnesty provision (see question number 18), the player cannot be reacquired for the length of the terminated contract.
  • A tean cannot acquire players when they do not have room on their 15-man roster, even if they intend to waive an incoming player immediately. For example, a team with 14 players cannot trade one player for three, while simultaneously waiving an incoming player to remain at 15 players. Note: it is possible to work around this restriction by waiving a current player, executing the trade, waiving one of the incoming players, and then re-signing the original player.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the first bullet item above. Many media reports mistakenly say that a player cannot be re-traded for two months under any circumstances, even by himself. This is not true -- Danny Manning's trade from Phoenix to Orlando, and soon thereafter to Milwaukee is one example of the correct application of this trade rule. Other media reports confuse the sign-and-trade rule with this one, claiming that the player can be re-traded within 48 hours or after 60 days, but not in between.
 
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I'd have to agree with the idea of trading Travis. With Webby coming back, there isn't much room for him, and I believe KP is high on Joel Freeland.

Perhaps Travis will be traded to a team under the cap for a future draft pick or some such thing. That way we get something for him, and clear his cap space for a free agent.
 

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