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Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

alex42083 said:
I think our cap space to Utah?
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weak.. I'd rather throw Blake and someone in there.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

It originates from John Lund. I have been listening to him all morning and he claims to have heard it yesterday and was going to discuss it today until he heard about Portland's offer to Millsap. He says he has a source that says Utah is pushing for it.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

From 95.5 The Game: Blazers would send cap space "and some player" to Utah.

???
 
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Also, Ty Thomas would be coming in the trade, dunno to Portland or Utah.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

B-Roy said:
Also, Ty Thomas would be coming in the trade, dunno to Portland or Utah.
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I don't see how he fits in Portland, so hopefully he'd go to Utah.

EDIT: Not to mention I don't like Ty Thomas' attitude. Isn't he the dude who wanted to "just show up and get his check" for the dunk contest a few years ago?
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

B-Roy said:
Backup PF.
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F that. Thomas is an Outlaw clone. I'd take Bass or Millsap over him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 
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Don't know why either Chicago is looking to blow up their team once again after having a good year. Already lost Gordon, now maybe Hinrich and Thomas. And who knows if Boozer would re-sign there.
 
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Unless they can dump Boozer, or let Millsap walk for absolutely nothing, the Jazz will be in luxury tax hell. This trade would allow them to dump Boozer and his huge salary and keep Millsap - who they would rather have - younger, cheaper, locked up long term. Depending on what we get back from Chicago (likely Hinrich + ???), we'll probably be sending out Blake (he'd be a good back-up PG for either the Bulls (most likely) or the Jazz.

BNM
 
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SodaPopinski said:
F that. Thomas is an Outlaw clone. I'd take Bass or Millsap over him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Only Thomas is a great help defender and a decent rebounder. Outlaw is none of those things.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

SodaPopinski said:
F that. Thomas is an Outlaw clone. I'd take Bass or Millsap over him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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No he's not. Thomas is a very good defender with a low basketball IQ. Outlaw is a one-dimensional scorer with a low basketball IQ. Other than the low basketball IQ, their games are almost exact opposites.

I'd rather have Millsap than Thomas, but I'd also rather have Hinrich + Thomas than just Millsap.

BNM
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

B-Roy said:
If this is true then the Jazz are getting PLAYED.
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Um, no they are not. Going into the off season they were planning on Boozer leaving via free agency so they could keep Milsap. This is just a different way of getting that done.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

Boob-No-More said:
I'd rather have Millsap than Thomas, but I'd also rather have Hinrich + Thomas than just Millsap.

BNM
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I can't argue with that. That does meet two of our goals this summer. Ego wise I just don't see Chicago giving up on Thomas.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

SodaPopinski said:
Sorry if this has been posted in another thread, but I didn't see it anywhere.

95.5 The Game is reporting the Blazers, Jazz and Bulls are discussing a three-way deal. They didn't have all the specifics, but they knew it at least involved Carlos Boozer going to Chicago and Kirk Hinrich going to Portland. It is originating from a Salt Lake sports radio station, and they are trying to track down the details before 9 a.m.

This would likely scrap the Paul Millsap deal and would probably prompt us to sign Brandon Bass.
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You mean this thread from 7-7-09?:

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143756

Masbee said:
Anybody hear Ric Bucher on the radio talking about a proposed three team deal that has been discussed that would send Carlos Boozer to Chicago, Kirk Hinrich to Portland, which abosorbs the salary for Utah?

He said teams (in general) are focused on going after free agents right now, and will get back to trades like this at a later time.

These principal components seem like a good idea for each team.....
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Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

Boob-No-More said:
No he's not. Thomas is a very good defender with a low basketball IQ. Outlaw is a one-dimensional scorer with a low basketball IQ. Other than the low basketball IQ, their games are almost exact opposites.
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Thomas is more of a 3 than a 4 to me ... I just don't see him being very useful as a backup to Aldridge. We'd be in the same boat we were in with Travis, having to use an undersized forward to back up LaMarcus.

I'd prefer a real banger in there to backup LA.
 
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B-Roy said:
Also, Ty Thomas would be coming in the trade, dunno to Portland or Utah.
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I heard that segment on the radio. The way I interpreted it was....we give up cap space & a player to utah, utah gives up boozer to chicago, chicago gives up hinrich to us.
 
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SodaPopinski said:
Thomas is more of a 3 than a 4 to me ... I just don't see him being very useful as a backup to Aldridge. We'd be in the same boat we were in with Travis, having to use an undersized forward to back up LaMarcus.

I'd prefer a real banger in there to backup LA.
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He's a 4. End of story.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

B-Roy said:
Also, Ty Thomas would be coming in the trade, dunno to Portland or Utah.
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I'd hope to Portland as he would fill a need at the back up PF or maybe even a larger line up playing at the three. Chicago needs a big, not so sure Utah loves Boozer, maybe Utah would be interested in keeping Millsap and getting a trade exception, appears that Portland is forcing Utah into making a trade, maybe something like this?

UTA Sends: Carlos Boozer to CHI
UTA Receives: Jerome James or Tim Thomas (both expiring) + Trade exception (from our salary cap)

POR Sends: Steve Blake to CHI, Travis Outlaw to CHI, Trade exception (from our salary cap) to UTA
POR Receives: Kirk Hinrich, Ty Thomas

CHI Sends: Kirk Hinrich to POR, Ty Thomas to POR, Jerome James or Tim Thomas to UTA
CHI Receives: Carlos Boozer, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw


Hinrich, Bayless
Roy, Rudy
Batum, Webster
Aldridge, Thomas
Oden, Przybilla

Sprinkle in some role bench players, still a decent second unit for Portland.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

HOWIE said:
I'd hope to Portland as he would fill a need at the back up PF or maybe even a larger line up playing at the three. Chicago needs a big, not so sure Utah loves Boozer, maybe Utah would be interested in keeping Millsap and getting a trade exception, appears that Portland is forcing Utah into making a trade, maybe something like this?

UTA Sends: Carlos Boozer to CHI
UTA Receives: Jerome James or Tim Thomas (both expiring) + Trade exception (from our salary cap)

POR Sends: Steve Blake to CHI, Travis Outlaw to CHI, Trade exception (from our salary cap) to UTA
POR Receives: Kirk Hinrich, Ty Thomas

CHI Sends: Kirk Hinrich to POR, Ty Thomas to POR, Jerome James or Tim Thomas to UTA
CHI Receives: Carlos Boozer, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw


Hinrich, Bayless
Roy, Rudy
Batum, Webster
Aldridge, Thomas
Oden, Przybilla

Sprinkle in some role bench players, still a decent second unit for Portland.
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I like that.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

SodaPopinski said:
This would likely scrap the Paul Millsap deal and would probably prompt us to sign Brandon Bass.
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Depends. If we only absorb salary and a player (say Thomas) goes to Utah, we wouldn't have any cap space left to use on Bass.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

HOWIE said:
I'd hope to Portland as he would fill a need at the back up PF or maybe even a larger line up playing at the three. Chicago needs a big, not so sure Utah loves Boozer, maybe Utah would be interested in keeping Millsap and getting a trade exception, appears that Portland is forcing Utah into making a trade, maybe something like this?

UTA Sends: Carlos Boozer to CHI
UTA Receives: Jerome James or Tim Thomas (both expiring) + Trade exception (from our salary cap)

POR Sends: Steve Blake to CHI, Travis Outlaw to CHI, Trade exception (from our salary cap) to UTA
POR Receives: Kirk Hinrich, Ty Thomas

CHI Sends: Kirk Hinrich to POR, Ty Thomas to POR, Jerome James or Tim Thomas to UTA
CHI Receives: Carlos Boozer, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw


Hinrich, Bayless
Roy, Rudy
Batum, Webster
Aldridge, Thomas
Oden, Przybilla

Sprinkle in some role bench players, still a decent second unit for Portland.
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If we get Hinrich plus Thomas instead of Millsap I still say we should trade Joel for Battier.

Hinrich, Bayless, Mills
Roy, Rudy, Battier
Battier, Batum, Roy, Rudy
Aldridge, Thomas, Cunningham
Oden, LMA, Pendergraph

I like that depth chart. I still prefer:

PG Hinrich/Bayless/Mills
SG Roy/Rudy
SF Battier/Batum
PF LMA/Millsap/Cunningham
C Oden/LMA/Pendergraph

2's and 3's are interchangable to a large degree.

Which one of those do you guys prefer?
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

It makes sense, Portland gets Captain Kirk and Thomas, Chicago gets a big, along with Blake and Outlaw, Utah gets to keep Millsap along with expiring contract and trade exception. Worse case senerio we get Millsap.
 
Re: Portland/Utah/Chicago three-way trade being discussed?

Idog1976 said:
If we get Hinrich plus Thomas instead of Millsap I still say we should trade Joel for Battier.

Hinrich, Bayless, Mills
Roy, Rudy, Battier
Battier, Batum, Roy, Rudy
Aldridge, Thomas, Cunningham
Oden, LMA, Pendergraph

I like that depth chart. I still prefer:

PG Hinrich/Bayless/Mills
SG Roy/Rudy
SF Battier/Batum
PF LMA/Millsap/Cunningham
C Oden/LMA/Pendergraph

2's and 3's are interchangable to a large degree.

Which one of those do you guys prefer?
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I'd hat to lose Joel, but if we added Battier in a deal I might be able to live with it. It really depends on how Greg plays this upcoming season, if he has a break out season we might be say Joel who? Joel was the achor for this team last year on defense.
 
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Old news. I told you guys yesterday KP was "making a move" on Millsap to get Utah back to the table with Chicago.
 
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This makes sense. Though I'd rather get a Gerald Wallace or Caron Butler in the 3-way, this is a deal that clears minutes for Batum and Rudy, and gets us a real, boring old-fashioned starting quality PG. Makes a lot more sense than actually getting Millsap and keeping Joel.

If we did this deal, that would be basically it for the summer. And that would be fine with me.

iWatas
 
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