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KingSpeed said:
Blake played the best basketball of his career with the Clippers including a triple double in a closing night blowout of the Lakers. Lots of teams will want Blake. Outlaw wasn't great but he wasn't awful either. His closing night game was good too.
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Call it morbid fascination, but I watched about fifteen Clippers games after the trade to see how Blake and Catfish were doing, and I can safely say that you grossly overestimate their contributions to that team; they were both very very mediocre for the most part, although Steve was modestly successful at times.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Call it morbid fascination, but I watched about fifteen Clippers games after the trade to see how Blake and Catfish were doing, and I can safely say that you grossly overestimate their contributions to that team; they were both very very mediocre for the most part, although Steve was modestly successful at times.
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I already posted this, but Blake shot 44% from 3 pt and handed out 6 apg in 26 minutes. I'm not sure what else one could expect from a back-up PG on a very bad team.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Call it morbid fascination, but I watched about fifteen Clippers games after the trade to see how Blake and Catfish were doing, and I can safely say that you grossly overestimate their contributions to that team; they were both very very mediocre for the most part, although Steve was modestly successful at times.
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I watched about ten games and came to the same conclusion, I'm not sure what KS saw outside of one or two good games. +1
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
On a horrible Clippers team. I still think some of Blake's best and most consistent play was that 1/2 season in Denver. Still surprised the Nuggets didn't do more to retain him at that time.
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PER of 11, 34% from 3pt, 6.8 assists/36 minutes in Denver.

In terms of personal stats, Blake played the best ball of his career for the Clippers. 44% 3pt, 8.4 assists/36, 44% FG.
 
Tince said:
I watched about ten games and came to the same conclusion, I'm not sure what KS saw outside of one or two good games. +1
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Maybe he looked at the stats? Or did Blake hand out all of his assists and achieve a 44% 3pt in one or two games? I only saw him play a few times for the Clips, but I don't put much stock in my own eyeball test, let alone other people's.
 
BGrantFan said:
PER of 11, 34% from 3pt, 6.8 assists/36 minutes in Denver.

In terms of personal stats, Blake played the best ball of his career for the Clippers. 44% 3pt, 8.4 assists/36, 44% FG.
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Again, on a horrible Clippers team. Blake drew rave reviews for his running of the Thugs in Denver.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Again, on a horrible Clippers team. Blake drew rave reviews for his running of the Thugs in Denver.
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Hey, I'm not saying Blake was great at all, but shooting 44% from 3pt and handing out 8.4 assists/36 isn't really a product of how good or bad a team is. One could say that those numbers are even more impressive considering the clods he had to play with in LA.

He had a 56.7 TS% and a 55.7 eFG%, both career bests, and a solid 34.7 AST% with a USG% of 14.1.
 
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And a win % of 25.9. I know how much you loved to tout that for Blake previously. You know who was worse on The Clippers than that? Nobody.
 
Tince said:
I watched about ten games and came to the same conclusion, I'm not sure what KS saw outside of one or two good games. +1
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He saw the same thing that PapaG saw.... the boxscore.
 
RR7 said:
And a win % of 25.9. I know how much you loved to tout that for Blake previously. You know who was worse on The Clippers than that? Nobody.
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I never posted anything about Blake. What are you talking about?
 
Hmm, Outlaw ended up with the highest WS% outside of Camby on the Clippers. :confused:
 
There are a lot of empty stats on lottery bound teams during the last month of the season. Us Blazers fans should remember as much...
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Did you forget that "You're (allegedly) PapaG"? :ohno::ohno:
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Ah, yes. I got confused with who I am supposed to be. The PapaG guy must have really made an impact here. I checked out his profile today and some posts. Seems a bit of a nutter, but wow, that BenDavis503 guy seems to be a veritable psycho. Oh, the drama!
 
Tince said:
There are a lot of empty stats on lottery bound teams during the last month of the season. Us Blazers fans should remember as much...
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I'm not sure how empty shooting 44% from 3pt really is, regardless of team record, but if we disagree, no biggie. :cheers:
 
Natebishop3 said:
Allegedly.... right.

He starts posting a month after PapaG leaves. He has, essentially, the same posting style. I'm pretty sure it's him. :dunno:
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May we actually talk about some hoops in between your Encyclopedia Brown routine?

I'm PapaG! :ohno:
 
BGrantFan said:
The PapaG guy must have really made an impact here. I checked out his profile today and some posts. Seems a bit of a nutter
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Haha. Oh, PapaG...you crack me up. Love ya, man. :cheers:
 
BGrantFan said:
I'm not sure how empty shooting 44% from 3pt really is, regardless of team record, but if we disagree, no biggie. :cheers:
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Fairly empty...

I watched about ten of their games and they were often sloppy and uncontested jumpers were at a premium in the 2nd half of many games.

I love Blake, but he played much better the previous two seasons than he did for the Clippers, if we're talking about pure value.
 
Tince said:
Fairly empty...

I watched about ten of their games and they were often sloppy and uncontested jumpers were at a premium in the 2nd half of many games.

I love Blake, but he played much better the previous two seasons than he did for the Clippers, if we're talking about pure value.
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Depends. His PER was higher for the Clips that in 07-08, as were his advanced shooting statistics. I just took issue with someone posting that Blake had killed his value. I don't think that's the case at all, and if he's hitting open 3pt shots, well, those are the shots he's typically going to get. I should hope he'd hit them.
 
BGrantFan said:
Depends. His PER was higher for the Clips that in 07-08, as were his advanced shooting statistics. I just took issue with someone posting that Blake had killed his value. I don't think that's the case at all, and if he's hitting open 3pt shots, well, those are the shots he's typically going to get. I should hope he'd hit them.
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We agree he didn't kill his value.
 
RR7 said:
And a win % of 25.9. I know how much you loved to tout that for Blake previously. You know who was worse on The Clippers than that? Nobody.
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In the last 30 games of the season the Clippers won 8 games - roughly the 25% that Blake, as the team at large won. I suspect that this trade (it sure seems like they loved Camby there) drained whatever fight this team had going forward - so a lot of the better win% values you see on that team were from earlier in the year. I do not have a split of the win% of the other players on that team after the trade - but I would be really surprised if he was that much better than most other players on that team.

At the end of the day - it comes down to what Blake is - he is a glue guy. He is not a star, and he is not someone you build around - but if you put him around good players - he will mesh well with them and help them win games. Someone in the league is going to pay to have him on his team, LAL and Miami seem like natural destinations.
 
Re: Marc Stein: Blazers in talks with Camby about extension now!!!

MIXUM said:
i think outlaw comes back... we need a scorer off the bench and rudy will be gone
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The fact that you said this gives me great hope that he's never coming back to Portland.

His time here came and went. He's someone else's problem now.
 
Re: Marc Stein: Blazers in talks with Camby about extension now!!!

Tortimer said:
I think Camby would have gotten a 10+ million FA offer. There is a ton of teams with a lot of cap space and when Lebron signs back with Clev teams need to make some type of FA pickup. IMO this is a great signing. I thought it would take a 3 year contract but if the Blazers only have to offer a 2 year contract no matter what the amount it is a steal. Camby, Oden and LMA are a great 3 player rotation.
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No doubt about it. Keeping any of our potential opponents from getting him is worth it alone, but to have him on our team, a much better player than Oden will be next season, ensures that we contend for the NBA title again (like we will this year with him as our starter, ensuring that Camby starts next season, too)
 
KingSpeed said:
Blake played the best basketball of his career with the Clippers including a triple double in a closing night blowout of the Lakers. Lots of teams will want Blake. Outlaw wasn't great but he wasn't awful either. His closing night game was good too.
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Dude. Nobody wants Blake. Nobody's wanted Blake for the last 3 years other than Nate. Stick to singing.
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The thing that annoyed me about blake was he really didn't look to shoot unless he had too. He would rather pass then shoot and thats great most of the time but when you pass up wide open shots like he did a lot defenders stop playing you so close and your ability to create for your teammates becomes very limited.
 
The signing of Camby does several things for us:

1. Yes, we overpaid, but we got fewer years. We were going to be in LT territory anyway, so the dollars don't really matter to me if they don't matter to PA.

2. We hired a tutor for GO. Joel is great, but his game is based on being physical. Camby is more finesse, something GO could use.

3. We kept him from other teams that could have used his services. Camby on OKC would have been frightening.

4. Our offseason is now a lot more orderly. We can draft in June knowing our big man situation is pretty secure. We can package Joel with Rudy before the draft without worrying about losing Camby.

The more I think about it, the more I like this deal.
 
Looks like it's a done deal.

"Kaplan says its two years, $21 million guaranteed and $5 million in incentives"
 
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