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Idk how I've slept on Bolden for so long. I knew his story and that he was agile and versatile but I didn't know he could shoot like that.

Compare Boldens production overseas to Terrance Ferguson's

Bolden might be a top 20-25 prospect. Shit, I don't know.

@JDC what's your take?
I watched a few games of his a while back but haven't revisited him since and honestly don't remember the thoughts I had about him but I'll probably watch more of him here soon.

His production vs Ferguson's shouldn't be much of a factor though. Differences in age and level of competition are significant.
 
I watched a few games of his a while back but haven't revisited him since and honestly don't remember the thoughts I had about him but I'll probably watch more of him here soon.

His production vs Ferguson's shouldn't be much of a factor though. Differences in age and level of competition are significant.
Isn't the Adriatic league better than Aussie ball?

Bolden just looks like a much more complete player to me.
 
Isn't the Adriatic league better than Aussie ball?

Bolden just looks like a much more complete player to me.
I may be wrong (I usually am), but Bolden seems like the kind of player that would get picked up as a late first or second rounder for the Spurs, or more recently, by the Bucks. Fans of every other team will spend the next 12 years wondering why their GM didn't draft him.
 
I may be wrong (I usually am), but Bolden seems like the kind of player that would get picked up as a late first or second rounder for the Spurs, or more recently, by the Bucks. Fans of every other team will spend the next 12 years wondering why their GM didn't draft him.
I feel the same way about Motley.
 
I feel the same way about Motley.
I can see that. Like you mentioned earlier, if he would have gone to Duke, UCLA, or UNC, he would probably be much higher in mock drafts. I'll admit that i have my hits and misses when it comes to the draft. I was big on Dame and CJ and was so happy when we selected them. Then again, I thought Sergey Monia might be our Ginobli. I feel pretty dumb about that one. I also thought Olidipo would be the best out of his draft. So, don't listen to me. Or do. You never know.
 
Isn't the Adriatic league better than Aussie ball?

Bolden just looks like a much more complete player to me.
They are pretty equal just think the nbl has nba type physicality / defense, which matters even more when you consider the age difference.
 
Never seen that Bolden fella before but he looks quality.
 
For some reason Kyle Kuzma from Utah has climbed up NBAdraft.net's board from late 2nd rounder, to #16 to Chicago.

Hmmm
 
I feel the same way about Motley.
Motley is intriguing for sure.

I just worry about his IQ and his in traffic athleticism. He passed more this year but also turned it over more and overall, I think he might too much of a "style over substance" player who isn't good enough on either end to be a useful rotation big (inefficient offensively plus spacey/low energy defensively) but this might just be paralysis by analysis at this point.

He still could bring a lot of value if he can be decent both in space and at the rim defensively with a reduced offensive role as an efficient/dynamic pnr threat with stretch potential.
 
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For some reason Kyle Kuzma from Utah has climbed up NBAdraft.net's board from late 2nd rounder, to #16 to Chicago.

Hmmm
Yeah way too high. If you are big with little starting potential, there's no reason to take that guy before the late 1st round.
 
Draftexpress has us setup for a pretty garbage draft with Anigbogu @15, Rabb @20 and Lydon @26. Thats about as bad as it gets.

Most their 1st round mock has me scratching my head.
That's odd. Normally they are pretty solid. Is there one you prefer?
 
Those are from Dame range. A fairly athletic guy who can block shots, rebound, switch out on the perimeter and stretch the floor. So where is the down side?


Yep, I was going to write "Lillardesque" but thought that would be goin overboard. Markkanen might be over 7f but is marketed as a 4, this guy looks to be able to shoot it close to as good and seems to have all those others talents you mentioned. None of us has likely seen enough of either to make a really good guess, but based upon what I've seen I'd take Bolden without a second thought over Markanen

I picked up the following on the web from a piece on PF's:

"And a few NBA folks are intrigued by Bolden, saying he’s more productive and aggressive than he showed in college, and looks like a different player now -- someone that could go earlier than people who aren’t paying attention may think.

“That’s a kid I think people are kind of missing on,” a Western Conference executive said. “I’ve watched him intently. Serbian basketball has really taken a hit from a financial standpoint. They’re not playing in front of 20,000 people. But he’s accepted his environment. It can be a harsh place for minorities -- not from a racial type thing.

“It’s just a real different environment. It’s a big city, but it’s a slum city. People don’t smile much. Older people don’t smile because they don’t have anything. The young people think what they see on TV is what comes out of America. It puts a lot of pressure on a kid who’s different from what they think. They’re on a shoestring budget, and he’s produced.”

Said a Southwest Division executive: “he’s off the radar now and starting to gain interest … watched him live in game and practice in Belgrade -- he’s a slasher and runner -- plays inside and out and shoots the three with ease. He’s improved.”
 
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We don't need a 5, and I don't think he and Nurkic can play together. Therefore I don't think he'll get much of a chance here.
actually drafting a 5 I think is something we may do as well as we have no depth at the position after Nurk, Davis is a UFA after next yr and Meyers is worthless and Vonleh is a PF. Bolden is a PF but might be able to play sone SF and small ball C, but I'd still like to add another C or PF/C and this draft where we pick is loaded with these kind of guys
 
actually drafting a 5 I think is something we may do as well as we have no depth at the position after Nurk, Davis is a UFA after next yr and Meyers is worthless and Vonleh is a PF. Bolden is a PF but might be able to play sone SF and small ball C, but I'd still like to add another C or PF/C and this draft where we pick is loaded with these kind of guys

We might have Patton and Allen available at 15 but there's a good chance neither will be there at 20. Anigbogu should be available with all our picks. Problem with picking Patton or Allen at 15 is that we'd likely have to give up on Collins, Jackson, Anonuby or another player who plays in a position we need help in more.
 
We might have Patton and Allen available at 15 but there's a good chance neither will be there at 20. Anigbogu should be available with all our picks. Problem with picking Patton or Allen at 15 is that we'd likely have to give up on Collins, Jackson, Anonuby or another player who plays in a position we need help in more.
I guess I'd disagree that we really need an SF more than a PF and/or C. Hark is fine and solid, Aminu can play SF as well as can Turner. And I think a guy like Bolden could play some SF as well and Bell can easily guard SF's. I think a Bolden/Bell combo is intriguing as either one can guard PF and SFs and small ball C's as well - the flexibility that offers is attractive IMO
 
would you guys be happy if we traded #15 and #20 for #10 and pick zach collins, then trade #26 for #36 and #39 to get jonah bolden and sindarius thornwell?
 
would you guys be happy if we traded #15 and #20 for #10 and pick zach collins, then trade #26 for #36 and #39 to get jonah bolden and sindarius thornwell?
one of the places I got some of the Bolden info from was a Kings thread and they think Vlade (from that area) is likely already on Bolden and that the Kings might try to trade down with the 10, who knows but that would not surprise me and I have a feeling Bolden will not be available at 36 or 39 as he's going to move up. Its all a crap shoot/guessing game on guys like this
 
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If he were to do so, I imagine whatever he got in return would get us pretty well buzzed.

#26 and Leonard for Trevor Booker, #20 and Crabbe for John Henson and #15 plus Aminu for Thad Young. I guess some people would be proper excited given how many advocated that it'd be better to get experienced average players than rookies.
 
would you guys be happy if we traded #15 and #20 for #10 and pick zach collins, then trade #26 for #36 and #39 to get jonah bolden and sindarius thornwell?

If ZCollins shows well in testing and looks like a real backup C or possible PF, then I would rather trade up (if we had to) to get him and then just take Bolden at 26. If he is really as good as he looks, as said above, he won't be there at 36. Bolden looks like a first rounder. If he is, then make him one. Thornwell is interesting, but not at the expense of losing someone better.
 
If ZCollins shows well in testing and looks like a real backup C or possible PF, then I would rather trade up (if we had to) to get him and then just take Bolden at 26. If he is really as good as he looks, as said above, he won't be there at 36. Bolden looks like a first rounder. If he is, then make him one. Thornwell is interesting, but not at the expense of losing someone better.
Yeah, I think Bolden and Collins could be a good draft, actually I am still a bit gun shy on trading up for Collins but as you say if he works out well.....
 
#26 and Leonard for Trevor Booker, #20 and Crabbe for John Henson and #15 plus Aminu for Thad Young. I guess some people would be proper excited given how many advocated that it'd be better to get experienced average players than rookies.
We'd have plenty of reason to get buzzed after that offseason. Drowning our misery in chemical therapy...
 
a savvy move might be to:

trade 15 to nets for 22 and 27
trade 20 to jazz for 24 and 30
keep 26


22- bell
24- jeanne
26- fergie ferg
27- diallo
30- giles

keep ferg and jeanne overseas, and let diallo and giles fight for playing time in the G league. Maybe a year from now we have 4 exciting prospects and bell already contributing.
 
Almost without exception, teams regret trading down in a draft. I would rather stay put and take BPA or trade up. Trading down looks good on paper, but you almost always miss out on something by doing so. Top picks are hard to get.
 
I picked this up from another board and I'll post it because I think its telling as to how fluid this draft from 12-30 is going to be, and moreso as workouts get into gear

"Chad Ford has a new draft board with mostly the usual list of names but with newcomers
like Jeanne, Diallo and Frank Jackson. As far as the bigs go, he still has John Collins as his
next best big after Zach Collins follwed in a group of Allen, Anigbogu, Patton and Adebayo.

Interesting the combine testing downgrades Anigbogu who tested below average as an
athlete and Allen is being downgraded from his interviews. It's clear those pre-draft
workouts will be critical as far as determining the pecking order amongst the bigs."
 
This whole concept of trading down makes absolutely zero sense to me at all. Why in the hell would we trade out of the 1st round for the purpose of targetting a 2nd rounder when 2nd round picks are pretty easy to buy or trade a future 2nd for? It's like giving up a better asset because for some reason we over value a lesser asset.
 

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