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what's the criteria for your point system? what attributes you value most and scale it against other potential positives or how do you weight negatives in the whole equation?
I doubt that the prospects would come out so evenly matched but suspect the teams culture and players fit in this respect would weigh more greatly than position of need. most of the players in our tier of picks are flawed and none ready to contribute immediately. NO seems to have a preference for more finished players so Jackson would likely receive a nod for that over position I suspect. IMHO
 
ps I also suspect that the players that worked out for the blazers and the impressions they left would weight the decisions heavily one way or the other all things being equal when put on the scales with the blazers on the clock
 
I still want us to role the dice on Dennis Smith. Even after watching his 'Weaknesses' video which obviously shows just his bad moves (unlike regular highlight films which show only a player's successful moves) I still think he's the closest thing in this draft to another Russell Westbrook
 
I still want us to role the dice on Dennis Smith. Even after watching his 'Weaknesses' video which obviously shows just his bad moves (unlike regular highlight films which show only a player's successful moves) I still think he's the closest thing in this draft to another Russell Westbrook

We will not get the chance to pick him because he won't fall to no. 15 and whoever is picking him at 8 or 9 will prefer him over two picks from us 100%, and on top of that it's pointless to trade many assets for a back up guard who won't even see enough minutes here to properly develop.
 
I have to say, I cooled on him a bit.
His highlights are very impressive but watching his highlights through a game, he has faults. He doesn't get his teammates involved enough, his power dunks in the open court when put together are very impressive but he can go through a game without dunking even once.
His numbers are impressive, he gets many points on a good percentage, also several rebounds and assists but he needs the ball in his hands to do so and as I said, he sometimes hogs it too much.
Anyway, here is his highlights from one game, 31 and 9 but his team lost, I'd let you decide
 
We're not drafting a starting level player at #15, #20 nor #26 IMO. Hope that he can contribute in a year or two from the bench!
Add future depth and assets.

Why not? There are multiple players picked at, or after 15, in every draft that end up as starters by the end of their rookie season. True, it's rare for a rookie picked that late to be a full time starter from opening day (Nic Batum and Tony Parker being two notable exceptions), but there are multiple guys picked that late that become starters by the end of their rookie season and continue to be full time starters after that.

With three picks between 15 and 26 in an exceptionally deep draft and a need to upgrade both starting forward spots, if we keep the picks I would hope the goal is to draft at least one player who could be starting for us by the end of his rookie season.

If you think the best you can do is bench player two years down the road, you'd be better off trading the picks for proven bench players. But I don't believe that's the case, especially not in this draft.

BNM
 
Guys I'd be excited about drafting (That might be available to us): Zach Collins, Donovan Mitchell, PJ Dozier, Justin Patton, Frank Jackson, Kadeem Allen, Hamidou Diallo (still undecided)

Happy with drafting (dependent on where we get them): Justin Jackson at #20,#26, Johnathan Motley (in a trade for a 2nd), Jordan Bell (see Motley), TJ Leaf (see Jackson), Anzejs Pasecniks (#26) Jonathan Jeanne (#26), Ike Anigbogou (#26)

And I guess you could add Jonah Bolden to the 2nd list. Although, he riminds me of a 4/3 version of Adreian Payne. Not sure how I feel about that.
 
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We're not drafting a starting level player at #15, #20 nor #26 IMO. Hope that he can contribute in a year or two from the bench!
Add future depth and assets.
2016:
#15 - Juan Hernangomez
#20 - Caris LeVert
#26 - Furkan Korkmaz

2015:
#15 - Kelly Oubre
#20 - Delon Wright
#26 - Nikola Milutinov

2014:
#15 - Adreian Payne
#20 - Bruno Caboclo
#26 - PJ Hairston

2013:
#15 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
#20 - Tony Snell
#26 - Andre Roberson

2012:
#15 - Maurice Harkless
#20 - Evan Fournier
#26 - Miles Plumlee

2011:
#15 - Kawhi Leonard
#20 - Donatas Motiejunas
#26 - Jordan Hamilton

2010:
#15 - Larry Sanders
#20 - James Anderson
#26 - Quincy Pondexter

2009:
#15 - Austin Daye
#20 -Eric Maynor
#26 - Taj Gibson

2008:
#15 - Robin Lopez
#20 - Alexis Ajinca
#26 - George Hill

2007:
#15 - Rodney Stuckey
#20 - Jason Smith
#26 - Aaron Brooks

The past 10 drafts shows there have been plenty of starters picked (and even a couple superstars). So it's not out of realm of possibility to hit big.
 
Those are from Dame range. A fairly athletic guy who can block shots, rebound, switch out on the perimeter and stretch the floor. So where is the down side?
They were mirror images of each other. Any rim at all? I only watched once but I didn't see any.
 
2016:
#15 - Juan Hernangomez
#20 - Caris LeVert
#26 - Furkan Korkmaz

2015:
#15 - Kelly Oubre
#20 - Delon Wright
#26 - Nikola Milutinov

2014:
#15 - Adreian Payne
#20 - Bruno Caboclo
#26 - PJ Hairston

2013:
#15 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
#20 - Tony Snell
#26 - Andre Roberson

2012:
#15 - Maurice Harkless
#20 - Evan Fournier
#26 - Miles Plumlee

2011:
#15 - Kawhi Leonard
#20 - Donatas Motiejunas
#26 - Jordan Hamilton

2010:
#15 - Larry Sanders
#20 - James Anderson
#26 - Quincy Pondexter

2009:
#15 - Austin Daye
#20 -Eric Maynor
#26 - Taj Gibson

2008:
#15 - Robin Lopez
#20 - Alexis Ajinca
#26 - George Hill

2007:
#15 - Rodney Stuckey
#20 - Jason Smith
#26 - Aaron Brooks

The past 10 drafts shows there have been plenty of starters picked (and even a couple superstars). So it's not out of realm of possibility to hit big.

Looks like an 80% likelihood of a starting level player at 15....i like the odds
 
Posting of clownzano....bad juju.
What is the point of any Clownzano blurb about NBA prospects, the draft or the NBA in general? Based on his past history, if Clownzano watched a hundred hours of college basketball footage I still wouldn't respect his opinion on the subject. He simply has no clue and has displayed a negative ability to evaluate talent.
 
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Even after watching his 'Weaknesses' video which obviously shows just his bad moves (unlike regular highlight films which show only a player's successful moves)
That's why its called his "weaknesses" tape...
 
I have to say, I cooled on him a bit.
His highlights are very impressive but watching his highlights through a game, he has faults. He doesn't get his teammates involved enough, his power dunks in the open court when put together are very impressive but he can go through a game without dunking even once.
His numbers are impressive, he gets many points on a good percentage, also several rebounds and assists but he needs the ball in his hands to do so and as I said, he sometimes hogs it too much.
Anyway, here is his highlights from one game, 31 and 9 but his team lost, I'd let you decide
You can't gauge a player off of just highlights. Hopefully you're starting to understand this...

Why is him not having "power dunks" in some games an evaluation factor for you?
 
Looks like an 80% likelihood of a starting level player at 15....i like the odds

As deep as this draft is, if we keep all three picks, I'd be supremely disappointed if we didn't land at least 1 starting level player, and I think 2 is not unreasonable given where we're picking and the quality of the players that will be available..

BNM
 

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