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Rastapopoulos said:


I would not be all that happy with this draft.
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What if instead of Jackson/Leaf, we took Patton and Anunoby (projected at 17 and 22 in their mock) along with Ojeleye at 26? More palatable?
 
This is the first video i've watched of Isaac. I want him more now.

He sound like he say's Mo Harkless when asked who he talks to most in the NBA. MO told him how to be a real professional according to Isaac. Sounds like a done deal to me. 1:23 in the clip.

 
rotary111 said:
This is the first video i've watched of Isaac. I want him more now.

He sound like he say's Mo Harkless when asked who he talks to most in the NBA. MO told him how to be a real professional according to Isaac. Sounds like a done deal to me. 1:23 in the clip.

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They're both from NYC so that's probably the connection.
 
If the Blazers has target Issac they need trade up to at least 6 or 7 spot.
 
Pridan said:
Not sure how, but I hope Neil can get it done. He's the one in this draft for me.
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Yea that going to be a problem for Neil to do. To me if he can't trade for his target he need to do one or two things either use one of the draft choice to get rid of one of his bad contract and get future pick or just keep all 3 picks.
 
I think this draft is 1st tier 6 deep.

Fultz
Ball
Fox
Jackson
Tatum
Isaac

After that there is probably another tier through 12 or so, but the difference between Marrkenen or Z Collins and J Collins or Jackson around 15 isn't worth giving up an asset for, IMO.
 
Don't see the Issac hype either. He seems like a worse Brandon Ingram. College stats were pretty underwhelming and the video I've seen of him shows his shaky handle and timid game.

Kinda reminds me of Moe coincidentally. That's not a top 6 pick in this loaded draft.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Don't see the Issac hype either. He seems like a worse Brandon Ingram. College stats were pretty underwhelming and the video I've seen of him shows his shaky handle and timid game.

Kinda reminds me of Moe coincidentally.
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Wow--I don't see the comparison between Ingram and Isaac at all. Ingram is purely an offensive player, and a finesse one at that.

I think you're more right to compare him to Mo, but I think he's already more aggressive offensively, and a better shooter at the same stage. Plus he's taller and longer than Mo, and arguably a better athlete as well.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Don't see the Issac hype either. He seems like a worse Brandon Ingram. College stats were pretty underwhelming and the video I've seen of him shows his shaky handle and timid game.

Kinda reminds me of Moe coincidentally. That's not a top 6 pick in this loaded draft.
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Video that I saw showed great handle for a guy his size.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I think this draft is 1st tier 6 deep.

Fultz
Ball
Fox
Jackson
Tatum
Isaac

After that there is probably another tier through 12 or so, but the difference between Marrkenen or Z Collins and J Collins or Jackson around 15 isn't worth giving up an asset for, IMO.
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I pretty much agree with this assessment. Although depending on a team's needs you could stretch the top 6 to around 10. I mean is Fox really better than Dennis Smith? Monk, next to the right PG could turn out to be the best scorer in the draft. Who really knows about Markkanen, but again the right situation he could turn out to be very good.

On the flip side, as much upside Fultz has, I wonder about his competitive nature. I did not see it at Washington. Yes I know his team sucked, but I also saw them play harder when he was out.
 
Jonah Bolden Is a Lottery Talent Hiding in the Second Round

“I think defensive versatility is a strength of mine,” Bolden said. “I want to become a player who can guard all five positions.”

One of the most common criticisms about Bolden in scouting circles is that he isn’t as tough as he needs to be to survive in the paint in the NBA. He will need to continue getting stronger, but his frame has noticeably filled out since his days at UCLA, and it’s not like he’s going to play all that much in the paint at the next level anyway. The ironic part about Bolden’s decision to go overseas is that he wanted to play more as a small forward in order to showcase his perimeter game, but there’s no longer much of a line between 3 and 4 in the NBA. The nature of the 4 position is changing rapidly, with players like Harrison Barnes and Al-Farouq Aminu making the switch in recent years. Bolden is ideally equipped to switch screens and guard out on the perimeter while still being able to hold his own on the glass and bang in the post, which have become essential tools for a modern player at the 3, 4, or 5. In contrast to guys like Jahlil Okafor, who were born 15 years too late to be great in the NBA, Bolden has come to the league at the perfect time for a player with his skill set to succeed.

There are only two players in this draft other than Bolden who shot more than 40 percent from 3 while still averaging at least one block and one steal per game. One is Markelle Fultz, the likely no. 1 overall pick, and the other is Derrick White, a senior guard from Colorado who may end up being taken in the first round.​
 
Minstrel said:
Jonah Bolden Is a Lottery Talent Hiding in the Second Round

“I think defensive versatility is a strength of mine,” Bolden said. “I want to become a player who can guard all five positions.”

One of the most common criticisms about Bolden in scouting circles is that he isn’t as tough as he needs to be to survive in the paint in the NBA. He will need to continue getting stronger, but his frame has noticeably filled out since his days at UCLA, and it’s not like he’s going to play all that much in the paint at the next level anyway. The ironic part about Bolden’s decision to go overseas is that he wanted to play more as a small forward in order to showcase his perimeter game, but there’s no longer much of a line between 3 and 4 in the NBA. The nature of the 4 position is changing rapidly, with players like Harrison Barnes and Al-Farouq Aminu making the switch in recent years. Bolden is ideally equipped to switch screens and guard out on the perimeter while still being able to hold his own on the glass and bang in the post, which have become essential tools for a modern player at the 3, 4, or 5. In contrast to guys like Jahlil Okafor, who were born 15 years too late to be great in the NBA, Bolden has come to the league at the perfect time for a player with his skill set to succeed.

There are only two players in this draft other than Bolden who shot more than 40 percent from 3 while still averaging at least one block and one steal per game. One is Markelle Fultz, the likely no. 1 overall pick, and the other is Derrick White, a senior guard from Colorado who may end up being taken in the first round.​
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This is a good draft to have some second round picks. Him, Semi, Swanigan, Ansejs, Dozier, White, Oliver, etc all are guys I'd like to have a chance to pick. Wonder if we can trade our 26 down to to the 35-40 range + some future pick as well.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Don't see the Issac hype either. He seems like a worse Brandon Ingram. College stats were pretty underwhelming and the video I've seen of him shows his shaky handle and timid game.

Kinda reminds me of Moe coincidentally. That's not a top 6 pick in this loaded draft.
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That's interesting; I also thought about him being like Mo when I watched that video. Doesn't have any kind of edge to him. BTW, Isaac only working out for top 4 teams.
 
Minstrel said:
Jonah Bolden Is a Lottery Talent Hiding in the Second Round

“I think defensive versatility is a strength of mine,” Bolden said. “I want to become a player who can guard all five positions.”

One of the most common criticisms about Bolden in scouting circles is that he isn’t as tough as he needs to be to survive in the paint in the NBA. He will need to continue getting stronger, but his frame has noticeably filled out since his days at UCLA, and it’s not like he’s going to play all that much in the paint at the next level anyway. The ironic part about Bolden’s decision to go overseas is that he wanted to play more as a small forward in order to showcase his perimeter game, but there’s no longer much of a line between 3 and 4 in the NBA. The nature of the 4 position is changing rapidly, with players like Harrison Barnes and Al-Farouq Aminu making the switch in recent years. Bolden is ideally equipped to switch screens and guard out on the perimeter while still being able to hold his own on the glass and bang in the post, which have become essential tools for a modern player at the 3, 4, or 5. In contrast to guys like Jahlil Okafor, who were born 15 years too late to be great in the NBA, Bolden has come to the league at the perfect time for a player with his skill set to succeed.

There are only two players in this draft other than Bolden who shot more than 40 percent from 3 while still averaging at least one block and one steal per game. One is Markelle Fultz, the likely no. 1 overall pick, and the other is Derrick White, a senior guard from Colorado who may end up being taken in the first round.​
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This is one guy I would like to see the Blazers give a psychological test to; if it shows he has some mental toughness and drive, then I'm all in.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I think this draft is 1st tier 6 deep.

Fultz
Ball
Fox
Jackson
Tatum
Isaac

After that there is probably another tier through 12 or so, but the difference between Marrkenen or Z Collins and J Collins or Jackson around 15 isn't worth giving up an asset for, IMO.
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Lots of people are sleeping on Dennis Smith. He reminds me a lot of Baron Davis.
 
Is it weird that there have been no workouts for Blazers the past 3 days???
 
MickZagger said:
Lots of people are sleeping on Dennis Smith. He reminds me a lot of Baron Davis.
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I read somewhere that Smith might fall on draft day. Don't know what that means, but I'd give up 15/20 for him.
 
Scalma said:
I read somewhere that Smith might fall on draft day. Don't know what that means, but I'd give up 15/20 for him.
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You see him as the third guard in a rotation? If he is BPA then okay, but I really would prefer to use our high picks on anything other than another short guard.
 
Reep said:
You see him as the third guard in a rotation? If he is BPA then okay, but I really would prefer to use our high picks on anything other than another short guard.
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If we're in the market for a third guard, I think we go after Donovan Mitchell in that Marcus Smart mold. We even brought him in for a workout fwiw.
 
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