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Here is one idea that is being kicked around by some fans. No rumor to this trade.

Crabbe & 20 for Booker

Portland saves about $12 million the first season, and dumps the last two seasons of Crabbe’s contract, plus we pick up a serviceable veteran PF on an expiring contract to give Vonley another season to develop.
 
One of the reasons I'm so interesting in Josh Jackson/High pick rookie is because of salary. If we had Jackson/a long term piece just beginning a rookie contract, then we could indeed dump salary and keep the core intact. Contrast this with getting Paul George (which would be great, but be Repeater Tax 4ever).
 
One of the reasons I'm so interesting in Josh Jackson/High pick rookie is because of salary. If we had Jackson/a long term piece just beginning a rookie contract, then we could indeed dump salary and keep the core intact. Contrast this with getting Paul George (which would be great, but be Repeater Tax 4ever).

Sorry if I missed it, but do you have a reasonable trade idea to land Josh Jackson?

My guess is trading all three of our first round picks would not be enough to move up that high in this draft. DraftExpress has Josh going to Philly @ #3.
 
i think we should trade crabbe, 15th, 20th, 2019 1st round pick, for orlando 6th pick and mario hezonja. use the 6th pick to get tatum (if he's still available) or jonathan isaac. then with the 26th pick get a pf/c.
 
i think we should trade crabbe, 15th, 20th, 2019 1st round pick, for orlando 6th pick and mario hezonja. use the 6th pick to get tatum (if he's still available) or jonathan isaac. then with the 26th pick get a pf/c.

Im not on board with giving the 2019 1st, but not a bad deal without it
 
Here is one idea that is being kicked around by some fans. No rumor to this trade.

Crabbe & 20 for Booker

Portland saves about $12 million the first season, and dumps the last two seasons of Crabbe’s contract, plus we pick up a serviceable veteran PF on an expiring contract to give Vonley another season to develop.
Your talking about Devin Booker?
 
Idea: #26+Crabbe ->Det #12

#12,#15,#20 + one player of their choosing (not dame/cj/nurk) for PG13. Basically, helps us sweeten the pot
 
How it actually benefits us to dump this contract in the short term? What does it accomplish?

It would make sense if we were able to then go after free agents. We won't. We will not get any high salary free agent for the next 3 years.
NBA teams (including Portland Trail Blazers) are a business first and foremost.
If you can't see/understand the importance of reducing payroll due to the luxury tax for the Blazers, then I can't help you.
The only variable in the equation is if Portland is a realistic contender (which they are not).
 
Sorry if I missed it, but do you have a reasonable trade idea to land Josh Jackson?

My guess is trading all three of our first round picks would not be enough to move up that high in this draft. DraftExpress has Josh going to Philly @ #3.
Of course I don't, but I have an unreasonable idea! :)
3 picks + Harkless + Aminu to Kings for #5 + random dude... Jackson falls to 5 (which some mocks have him doing).
 
So Hoopshype uses nbadraft.net as their source for their Mock? ......Didn't they used to have their own?

http://hoopshype.com/2017/05/30/nba-mock-draft-2017/

These all seem a bit high except Justin Jackson at 19

15: TJ Leaf
20: Bam Adebano
26: DJ Dosier

Justin Jackson at 19? He seems to be slipping
 
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Watching some more Mushidi tonight and he's starting to remind me of a longer, less athletic SG version of Tobias Harris. Similar movement and presence/confidence on the floor. Still don't like his high risk play / loose+high handle and his athletic deficiencies don't allow him to much more than a one-dimensional high volume 3pt shooter on offense either. His frame+length gives him some potential defensively, just not sure he'll be able to keep up with quick guys. Has instincts, but fundamentals are sloppy at times (foul prone).

His teammate Vlatko Cancar is pretty intriguing as well.

Wide framed (w/good length), fluid, bouncy, skilled stretch 4 with nice shot mechanics. Has some physicality in his game and screens really well but needs to still add considerable weight. Has a pretty strong base but upper body needs filling out.
 
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Ok if we keep our picks I don't even know who I'd want at 15. I'm expecting Neil to trade (either up or out) so much I haven't even thought about it lately. Hartenstein is still my boy but he should be there later. Maybe we swing early on Giles?
 


Man, if that shot ever develops..

Olshey wanted Kirstaps. I think he could easily have Jeanne ranked high on his wish list as well. That shot looks like it can be developed. Add that to the way he runs and protects the rim....yeah Olshey might be interested.
 
Ok if we keep our picks I don't even know who I'd want at 15. I'm expecting Neil to trade (either up or out) so much I haven't even thought about it lately. Hartenstein is still my boy but he should be there later. Maybe we swing early on Giles?
Still holding out hope he finds a way to get Isaac or Collins. If not, I'd trade out of it. Any other player at that spot feels like a reach imo.
 


Man, if that shot ever develops..

Olshey wanted Kirstaps. I think he could easily have Jeanne ranked high on his wish list as well. That shot looks like it can be developed. Add that to the way he runs and protects the rim....yeah Olshey might be interested.


He's an interesting prospect.
Extremely thin, I would be hesitant to even let him play worrying he might get injured, but he's also very long, versatile, can play inside and outside, has solid instincts, a good shot blocker.
The question mark is mostly about his physicality and what would make my decision on him is how good can he be as a defender in the half court: yes, he can guard the 3p line and also the rim, he's quick, is agile, a good rebounder, but how good is his defensive basketball IQ? Can he be like RoLo for us or like what Ezeli was supposed to be, someone who has superior defensive IQ for a big, knows exactly when to stay with his man, when to switch, when to help on the weakside, when to go for the block. I think he's not there yet but maybe has the potential to evolve into this kind of player. If he does then he's worth a 1st round pick IMO

Edit: this is not based just on this clip, I watched some more highlights of him on youtube
 
The base for the type of player Jeanne could become is more Porzingis than Gobert. Jeanne is more agile than Gobert and has a higher ceiling offensively. If Jeanne ever develops that shot, he's the perfect compliment to Nurkic.
 
The base for the type of player Jeanne could become is more Porzingis than Gobert. Jeanne is more agile than Gobert and has a higher ceiling offensively. If Jeanne ever develops that shot, he's the perfect compliment to Nurkic.

Yes, I can see the Porzingis comparison but what could make him more than a poor-man's Porzingis is if he develops as a defensive player
 
He should be there at 26 and a pick that if you want to gamble with it will that pick.
 
I'd definitely take a shot at Jeanne or Bolden with #26 (if we still have the pick). Just say 'No' to John Collins anywhere. 'Turrble' defense and a complete black hole on offense. I think Allen could eventually play some '4' as well as '5' and needs conditioning more than I'm concerned about his motor. Like Jackson at #15 if he is still available.
 
Back to the topic of Jeanne, while I have reservations about him I don't disagree that he could be a good (or at least interesting) option as a PF next to Nurkic
 
Portland owns the No. 15, 20 and 26 picks in this draft, and several teams are eager to get into that mix. The Knicks have inquired about some combination of the Blazers’ picks, a source said, and those talks are ongoing. New York has the eighth pick and could trade down for a combination of picks, though the preference for the Knicks is to keep their pick and add one of Portland’s.

The Nets have inquired, too, and that could be interesting because of the Nets’ ability to absorb salary. Brooklyn stands to have about $40 million in cap space next summer, and without much to offer big-time free agents, leveraging that space to accumulate picks with bad contracts would make sense for the Nets, who will see the No. 1 pick swapped to Boston this year, and have next year’s pick sent to the Celtics, too.

For the time being, Portland wants to dump a salary in a deal for a pick. If they could dump the contract of the maddeningly frustrating Leonard, who is owed $31 million over the next two years and could get the Blazers close to slipping under the tax number, one of their picks could be had

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...jy9nju4?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 

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