Merged: Wallace and Butler and RJeff, oh, my!

[noknobs]

KP is being stubborn at this point....

He knows he's the one negotiating from a position of strength. In a game of chicken, he's going to win. It just comes down to whether other GM's have too much of an ego to not want to get pritch-slapped. If they decide to do what's necessary for their teams financially, we should come out smelling like roses.

The fact that article says we're getting better offers for Lafrenz than Phoenix was getting for Amare tells you all you need to know.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I realize that. i am just saying that it is a lot to ask for from Charlottes end. And if we do it, they should not be asking for anything else. (i.e young quality talent)

Well, I think Charlotte should at least get some talent in return for one of the premiere defensive wings in the league. And there's really no point for Portland to carry Wallace/Webster/Batum (Travis too I guess?) at the 3 heading into next year; the team actually needs to move some people. Lastly, taking on Nazr's contract isn't that big of deal, it's just a MLE salary.

 

[Karl Malone's Elbows]

Actually I think the opposite. Wouldn't KP want to see that he's game ready before pulling the trigger on something?

No. The team already knows more than enough about any player they'd want to trade for. There's nothing Wallace can do in a single game to change their mind.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Well, I think Charlotte should at least get some talent in return for one of the premiere defensive wings in the league. And there's really no point for Portland to carry Wallace/Webster/Batum (Travis too I guess?) at the 3 heading into next year; the team actually needs to move some people. Lastly, taking on Nazr's contract isn't that big of deal, it's just a MLE salary.

If it isn't a big deal then they don't have to include him. But apparently it is a big deal for both sides. I think "deal breaker" was thrown out there.

 

[Nikolokolus]

No. The team already knows more than enough about any player they'd want to trade for. There's nothing Wallace can do in a single game to change their mind.

In terms of his health after a collapsed lung? I'm not talking about a scouting report here, just a health evaluation.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

In terms of his health after a collapsed lung? I'm not talking about a scouting report here, just a health evaluation.

Team doctors have obviously already given him a "health evaluation" before he was cleared to practice again.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If it isn't a big deal then they don't have to include him. But apparently it is a big deal for both sides. I think "deal breaker" was thrown out there.

I shouldn't have said "no big deal" because it's certainly not a desirable contract, but KP has taken on far worse to get the player he wants (Trading Ratliff for Raef to get the rights to Brandon for instance). the "big deal-edness" is relative to what we've seen Pritchard do in the past.

 

[mook]

btw--how great does that deal where we sent Telfair/Ratliff out for Raef/#7 pick look now?

It's possible we could spin Telfair and Ratliff into Roy and either Butler or Wallace.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

btw--how great does that deal where we sent Telfair/Ratliff out for Raef/#7 pick look now?

It's possible we could spin Telfair and Ratliff into Roy and either Butler or Wallace.

PRITCHSLAPPED!

 

[graybeard]

FWIW, a couple of weeks ago on Courtside Monday Night, Mike Barret said that he knows for a fact the the Bobcats covet Martel.... so we could be trading one injured player for another.... Webster for Wallace.. no need for Wallace to play this week to prove he's healthy.

 

[free_lafrentz]

FWIW, a couple of weeks ago on Courtside Monday Night, Mike Barret said that he knows for a fact the the Bobcats covet Martel.... so we could be trading one injured player for another.... Webster for Wallace.. no need for Wallace to play this week to prove he's healthy.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d94n8j

 

[MrJayremmie]

Take on Nazr. He's not great shakes, and he's overpaid, but is it REALLY the worst thing in the world to have a veteran 7 footer at the end of the bench?

If we need to give up almost nothing except RLEC and taking back Nazr, the Blazers would be silly not to acquire Wallace IMO.

Ed O.

Exactly! Wallace, Nazr for Raef, Sergio and Outlaw/Webster (I didn't want to trade Outlaw, but since Wallace can play 3 and backup 4 I think he becomes expendable).

 

[MIXUM]

maybe KP wants to see wallace in action tonight before pulling the trigger....or if wallace sudenly doesnt play...that spells trade to me

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

The Game just reported that they are hearing that the Wallace deal is "dead".

 

[Miksaid]

Nooooo.

 

[MrJayremmie]

The Game just reported that they are hearing that the Wallace deal is "dead".

Ouch... unless that means Butler... then Ouch... but it actually may be a good sign? IDK, we will see. I really hope Nazr wasn't the deal breaker.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It's never dead until they cover the fat lady with dirt. OK I just made that up, but the bottom line is it's never dead until another trade with that player is made. or until Friday. Probably just postering.

 

[craigehlo]

Ouch... unless that means Butler

There's talk of the Cavs trading for Jamison using Wally's expiring contract. If they swing that deal, they will hold onto Butler.

 

[Nikolokolus]

The Game just reported that they are hearing that the Wallace deal is "dead".

Didn't The Game "break" a trade that was actually never on the table a couple of weeks ago?

 

[ehizzy3]

damn what was the proposed deal?

 

[free_lafrentz]

damn what was the proposed deal?

That's what i was wondering. Maybe they're referring to the ESPN article which suggested Batum, RLEC and Sergio for Wallace and Mohammed.

I looked at a bobcats forum this afternoon and from what i understand a lot of fans are reluctant to do that deal with Batum. One suggested trade proposal had us including Rudy in a deal for Wallace, which i would have to consider.

Honestly, I don't think we can get Wallace for as cheap as the ESPN article indicates. It will probably cost us Travis and Martell.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Didn't The Game "break" a trade that was actually never on the table a couple of weeks ago?

The Game wasnt around a "couple of years ago".

 

[ehizzy3]

The Game wasnt around a "couple of years ago".

he said weeks.. unless he edited it..

btw i dont remember the game doing that?

 

[MIXUM]

pritchard is scared to trade away his shitty middle of the road players while everyone else is making deals or getting close.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

The Game wasnt around a "couple of years ago".

Key word being "weeks," BM!


EDIT: Oh, yeah... and by the way, did you guys know that the clock stops when a foul is called?

 

[Nikolokolus]

The Game wasnt around a "couple of years ago".

he said weeks.. unless he edited it..

btw i dont remember the game doing that?

No I didn't edit it.

And it had something to do with Gavin Dawson and Chad jumping the gun and saying that Sergio had been traded (or something like that) ... I remember Jason Quick kind of reprimanding them for shoddy reporting in his next quickchat.

 

[e_blazer]

pritchard is scared to trade away his shitty middle of the road players while everyone else is making deals or getting close.

[Deleted.]

Okay, what I should have said is that perhaps there's a reason that KP hasn't pulled the trigger on a trade other than being, "scared to trade away his shitty middle of the road players while everyone else is making deals" Perhaps he's actually considering multiple offers and waiting for the best deal. Perhaps there's a deal that is "getting close", but hasn't been made public yet because the final details are being ironed out. Perhaps KP considers there to be better options available this summer and his timeframe for a deal isn't the same as some poster's on this board. In any event, since certain posters don't know diddly about the truth of this situation, calling KP out as being scared to make a deal is just laughable given his history as Blazers' GM in making multiple deals that have all turned out to the Blazers' advantage.

 

[Tortimer]

That's what i was wondering. Maybe they're referring to the ESPN article which suggested Batum, RLEC and Sergio for Wallace and Mohammed.

I looked at a bobcats forum this afternoon and from what i understand a lot of fans are reluctant to do that deal with Batum. One suggested trade proposal had us including Rudy in a deal for Wallace, which i would have to consider.

Honestly, I don't think we can get Wallace for as cheap as the ESPN article indicates. It will probably cost us Travis and Martell.

No way would l want to include Rudy for Wallace. I would probably include Rudy for Butler but not Wallace.

 

[craigehlo]

And it had something to do with Gavin Dawson and Chad jumping the gun and saying that Sergio had been traded (or something like that) ... I remember Jason Quick kind of reprimanding them for shoddy reporting in his next quickchat.

They reported a fake email as possible news. I think it was Sergio for Nate Robinson. No matter that the fake trade rumor was ludicrous for NY.

I'd like to know where the "deal is dead" news came from since I haven't seen it online anyplace. These guys actually in contact with the Blazer front office? I doubt it.

 

[MIXUM]

serioulsy if w edont make a deal....its an absolute disgrace on pritchards part. no other way around it. we have the best contract in teh NBA to offer and we cant get a deal done???? sorry if no deal is made.... kp loses the great gm status crap. how can you not make a move when teams are begging to shed salary????