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magnifier661 said:
:) we have the 5th best defensive player in the league! Just bring McGee in and hickson as the main reserve pf/c and that changes!
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Man I love how stats get misinterpreted. 5th best defender int eh league, huh?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Man I love how stats get misinterpreted. 5th best defender int eh league, huh?
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Well stop using stats then... That analog was designed by MIT to monitor defensive production. It wasn't like counting block shots, steals and defensive rebounds. It was monitoring everyone's fg% when he was 5 feet from the basket.
 
magnifier661 said:
Well stop using stats then... That analog was designed by MIT to monitor defensive production. It wasn't like counting block shots, steals and defensive rebounds. It was monitoring everyone's fg% when he was 5 feet from the basket.
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That doesn't make Aldridge the 5th best defender int he league though, you dork.
 
I love how people are discounting his nice lines because of the competition...being better than the competition is a good thing, right?
 
Mediocre Man said:
This thread is awesome.

Love that the kid put up good numbers, but he is lost on defense and two of those games were against teams with no centers.


And Eric, yes. We still need a center, but not nor ever Pek
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Thanks captain sunshine, because it would be absolutely unprecedented for a 20 year old rookie big to learn the nuances of the game. Going by the "eye test" he looks a lot more comfortable out there and the game is slowing down for him. I don't care if it's against weaker competition, the fact that he's starting to get it and is gaining confidence is huge.
 
MickZagger said:
That such a variable thing. There's players that I'd want, but wouldn't want them at a certain pick. Like Drummond and Barnes, I liked them just not where we were picking. Then, you got guys like Blaze01 who said he would rather draft Marquis freaking Teague than Lillard.

I was huge on Lillard and Leonard before they were even discussed on this board as potential Blazer picks. I remember posting a video of him and saying he'd should be the PGOTF or something like that.
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Yeah, I didn't say that asshole....Stop trying to say that I did....I questioned whether Lillard was worth the 6th pick (he has proven that he was worth it)...and questioned whether the "eventual" difference b\t Teague (who is almost 3 years younger) & Lillard was substantial enough to warrant taking Lillard @ #6, as opposed to taking Teague (or another PG) mid way thru the 1st. Lillard has had a great year, no doubt...Teague has been stuck on the bench, clearly one sided win for Lillard at this juncture, who knows 3 years down the road? Teague could develop like Bledsoe or his brother or fade away...

I have enough bad opinion posts already (everyone here does), I don't need you making one up for me....
 
Blaze01 said:
Yeah, I didn't say that asshole....Stop trying to say that I did....I questioned whether Lillard was worth the 6th pick (he has proven that he was worth it)...and questioned whether the "eventual" difference b\t Teague (who is almost 3 years younger) & Lillard was substantial enough to warrant taking Lillard @ #6, as opposed to taking Teague (or another PG) mid way thru the 1st. Lillard has had a great year, no doubt...Teague has been stuck on the bench, clearly one sided win for Lillard at this juncture, who knows 3 years down the road? Teague could develop like Bledsoe or his brother or fade away...

I have enough bad opinion posts already (everyone here does), I don't need you making one up for me....
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So you still refuse to admit that you were wrong about Lillard?
 
I love Leonard. Have for quite some time. Been on the bandwagon since before we drafted him.

That being said, I wanted Drummond. I was hoping for a Drummond-Lillard draft. Unfortunately, neither player was going to drop to #11, even though Drummond was dropping (and Lillard skyrocketing destroyed my hopes of taking him at #11, but I ain't mad).

I get people being reserved on Leonard. He has a ways to go, but he's showing growth, and the athletic ability and touch are there. But don't be stubborn and deny that he's improving. Cuz if you can't acknowledge something so obvious, I question your basketball knowledge in general.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So you still refuse to admit that you were wrong about Lillard?
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Dude, Blaze did just say that Lillard has proven he was worth the #6 pick. He can be defensive and he may not be my favorite poster, but come on - did you expect a hand job, too? I think his comment qualifies as him admitting he was wrong. It's not as clear and bright as a neon sign, but that's hardly refusing to admit his incorrect opinion.
 
I want to get on the Leonard Bandwagon, but he needs to show me more.
 
MediocreMan saying the same things about Hickson and Leonard 20 times a day is getting quite annoying.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
MediocreMan saying the same things about Hickson and Leonard 20 times a day is getting quite annoying.
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I keep telling people to iggy me if they would be happier not reading what I say. I get stuck on something and have a hard time letting it go. Doing my best though :cheers:

I will make sure one of the others reaches out to you for the Over/Under game.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I keep telling people to iggy me if they would be happier not reading what I say. I get stuck on something and have a hard time letting it go. Doing my best though :cheers:

I will make sure one of the others reaches out to you for the Over/Under game.
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The ignore feature is so shitty I can't use it. Plus I don't want to ignore anyone, if I ignored everyone who was annoying from time to time it'd just be me talking to myself. I just have been seeing the exact same arguments about Hickson and Leonard for.. Most of the season? Just tired of it.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
The ignore feature is so shitty I can't use it. Plus I don't want to ignore anyone, if I ignored everyone who was annoying from time to time it'd just be me talking to myself. I just have been seeing the exact same arguments about Hickson and Leonard for.. Most of the season? Just tired of it.
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They will probably continue when people say silly things like Hickson's defense is getting better and when people all of sudden start thinking Meyers Leonard is the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain because he runs well and dunked playing against Bismack, DeSegana, Greg and Chris
 
Mediocre Man said:
They will probably continue when people say silly things like Hickson's defense is getting better and when people all of sudden start thinking Meyers Leonard is the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain because he runs well and dunked playing against Bismack, DeSegana, Greg and Chris
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Uh yeah I didn't say he is gonna be the next Wilt, I started this thread because he is a good young player who is showing promise and keeps improving.

PS, centers these days don't come a whole lot better than the guys you mentioned.
 
Mediocre Man said:
They will probably continue when people say silly things like Hickson's defense is getting better and when people all of sudden start thinking Meyers Leonard is the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain because he runs well and dunked playing against Bismack, DeSegana, Greg and Chris
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Nobody said anything about him being the second coming of Wilt. But most of us can watch him and feel positive about his potential. Most of us can see growth. What's silly is you consistently denying it when it's apparent to everyone else by you. We're all entitled to our own opinions, but when the evidence is apparent, it almost seems like you're going out of your way to be correct.

Even if he is beating on scrubs, most of them have been in the league for years. They've made it this long. Leonard is a rookie and has had fairly limited time. It's a positive sign that he's outplaying guys who have been in the league much longer.
 
Mediocre Man said:
They will probably continue when people say silly things like Hickson's defense is getting better and when people all of sudden start thinking Meyers Leonard is the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain because he runs well and dunked playing against Bismack, DeSegana, Greg and Chris
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And nobody said Hickson was a good defender. But he's been putting more effort in on the defensive side. It still leaves a lot to desire, though. Someone pointed that out. We already know your opinion on the matter, too - as VG pointed out, you've been saying it everyday (as have many other posters here).
 
Natebishop3 said:
So you still refuse to admit that you were wrong about Lillard?
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Love this stuff . . . Gotcha! . . . No, I got YOU! . . . No, I got YOU!

You'd think you were arguing a case before the Supreme Court rather than just talking hoops.
 
Shooter said:
Love this stuff . . . Gotcha! . . . No, I got YOU! . . . No, I got YOU!

You'd think you were arguing a case before the Supreme Court rather than just talking hoops.
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Woah woah woah woah...

this is the internet, this is seriuz bizness.
 
There hasn't been a time when I was anything but positive about Leonard, and there are plenty of others on this board who liked what they saw, too.

The "big white American stiff" stuff was stupid, and must have been posters just trolling, looking back.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Another fun fact about Meyers Leonard's breakout last three games

Portland is dead last vs opponents points in the paint at 46.1 for the season

The last three games with Leonard getting do much playing time we are at 49.3
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Another fun fact about Leonard.

He now has a higher PER (13.4) than USG (13.3), and of his five best games of the season, 3 of them were the last 3 games for the Blazers.
 
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