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This would be a decent haul if Utah was willing to part with Collins and if Miami was actually willing to push their chips in.

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This would be a decent haul if Utah was willing to part with Collins and if Miami was actually willing to push their chips in.

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Collins is a negative and we have no use for him. We could have had him for pennies and we didn't go near him. No defense. Doesn't fit the culture. You couldn't ask for a worse fit next to Ayton than Collins.

We'd be taking back a young like Agbaji or Hendricks instead.
 
Collins is a negative and we have no use for him. We could have had him for pennies and we didn't go near him. No defense. Doesn't fit the culture. You couldn't ask for a worse fit next to Ayton than Collins.

We'd be taking back a young like Agbaji or Hendricks instead.
We could not have gotten Collins. We did not have cap space.
 
Sure, we could have. If we would have given within 20% of his salary we could have acquired him.

It was a pure salary dump. How would we have acquired him? We didn't have anywhere near enough space.
 
It was a pure salary dump. How would we have acquired him? We didn't have anywhere near enough space.

It was a pure salary dump because he wasn't worth anything. Really good players don't usually get dumped for nothing. Now you want him to be a key piece in a Lillard trade?

It's a terrible idea. I'd rather take the terrible Miami package than him.
 
It was a pure salary dump because he wasn't worth anything. Really good players don't usually get dumped for nothing. Now you want him to be a key piece in a Lillard trade?

It's a terrible idea. I'd rather take the terrible Miami package than him.
But…. The terrible Miami package was PART of that trade idea. :dunno:

Collins would be more useful to us than Herro. I’m not seeing a ton of options out there for Herro.
 
Collins would be more useful to us than Herro. I’m not seeing a ton of options out there for Herro.
IMO, the most likely Herro destination is Indiana, with Indy sending Hield to Miami and McConnell to PHX.

I'm curious as to whether or not Toronto has any interest in pairing Herro with Trent, but that send like a stretch to me, and I doubt they'd want to help Miami get Dame.

Brooklyn seems like the best destination for Herro, but that's just because I'm still interested in gambling on Simmons.
 
But…. The terrible Miami package was PART of that trade idea. :dunno:

Collins would be more useful to us than Herro. I’m not seeing a ton of options out there for Herro.

I think Herro has positive value. Collins has negative. If I'm taking Collins I want Hendricks or another good piece but I guess we'll see.
 
There’s a lot of pressure on the 3rd and 4th teams to deal in these multi-team Miami scenarios. I don’t see there being a ‘herro to Portland’ backup plan.
 
This would be a decent haul if Utah was willing to part with Collins and if Miami was actually willing to push their chips in.

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Collins was just traded to the Jazz for a 2nd rounder…in 2026. Why exactly does us trading for him make it a decent haul?

Also, the Suns aren’t taking on Robinsons contract. Trading Gordon’s contract for Robinson’s contract would be idiotic.
 
It goes without saying but Utah traditionally, when given a choice, goes after the good white players. Thus interest in Herro. Tell me I’m wrong.
 
Collins was just traded to the Jazz for a 2nd rounder…in 2026. Why exactly does us trading for him make it a decent haul?

the Hawks traded Collins so they could go from 15M over the tax line to 9M under the line. It saved them over 50M in salary and tax. That's where the value was for Atlanta. Collins had a bad season. Might be premature to gauge him by that bad season rather than his previous 5 seasons. Last season sure looks like an outlier at this point
 
I would consider this acceptable.
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What I'm going to say is not my intel but it's from someone that'd have legitimate knowledge but is specifically on one side, so don't shoot the messenger:

Apparently Cronin told Dame he'd never need a no-trade clause because he'd do right by him if he ever wanted out. Dame asked out on June 26th and gave Cronin a list of teams, and Cronin then told him "we're going to do what's best for us" and then made that public statement about having a great conversation with Dame and being committed to building a winner around him. Supposedly, that ticked Dame off and is a reason why he's only demanding Miami.

This rumor has made it's rounds to other forums now as well.

I thought it would be good to try and set the record straight here. Dame was not eligible for a no-trade clause, since it was an extension.
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q101
A no-trade clause can be negotiated into a new contract1 if the player...
Then looking at the footnote 1
1 A no-trade clause cannot be negotiated into an extension, unless player's existing contract or extension already contained a no-trade clause.

Who knows what was actually said during the extension negotiations, but I thought it is important to clarify that Dame was not even eligible for a no-trade clause.
 
This rumor has made it's rounds to other forums now as well.

I thought it would be good to try and set the record straight here. Dame was not eligible for a no-trade clause, since it was an extension.
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q101

Then looking at the footnote 1


Who knows what was actually said during the extension negotiations, but I thought it is important to clarify that Dame was not even eligible for a no-trade clause.

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