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Elvin Jones said:
Trying to imagine Greg playing basketball for more than 20 games is like trying to imagine the queen of England naked and popping a boner.
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At this point, I wouldn't consider Greg playing more than 20 games a sure thing. I'd use another analogy.
 
Master Shake said:
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I'm shocked that they let you keep your trolling license when you became a mod. Regardless, *deleted* -- gloating about an injury is pretty much the opposite of class.
 
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Did some of you not see this coming? He has been injured for a while in that knee. With no progress.

Camby is still a good center. I don't know for how long but he's solid.
 
You have to make an offer to restricted free agents for them to stay restricted? I thought the whole point of RFA was to have other teams offer first?
 
Master Shake said:
Did some of you not see this coming? He has been injured for a while in that knee. With no progress.

Camby is still a good center. I don't know for how long but he's solid.
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Yeah, he's another player that couldn't wait TO LEAVE THE RAPTORS.
 
Tough break. There goes our chance at contending for a title any time soon. What is with our medical and training staff anyway???
 
VanillaGorilla said:
You have to make an offer to restricted free agents for them to stay restricted? I thought the whole point of RFA was to have other teams offer first?
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I think most are assuming next offseason will be lost to lockout.

Edit: Correct answer on next page.
 
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Jayps15 said:
I got the number from this site, they're usually pretty accurate but I'm not 100%
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm
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Interesting. I see where they get the number. It seems pretty close to the second part of this paragraph. The CBA reads:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap

"For 1st-round draft picks, restricted free agency is only allowed after a team exercises its option for a fourth year, and the team makes a Qualifying Offer at the Rookie-scale amount after the fourth year is completed. For any other player to be a restricted free agent, he must be at most a three-year NBA veteran, and his team must have made a Qualifying Offer for either 125% of his previous season's salary or the minimum salary plus $175,000, whichever offer is higher."

My interpretation is that this falls into part A that I've highlighted. If you do the part that says "For any other [other than 1st round draft picks] the rule is 125% of previous season + $175K. For Oden, if he were just generically put into that second rule, it would put him around $8.7M. But the language would seem to override that for 1st round picks and this year's Q.O. for a #1 pick appears to have been set at $6.4M. So that is where I was getting my info.

But like I said, may not matter. Would you pay him $6M for one year if it was even that low?
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
You have to make an offer to restricted free agents for them to stay restricted? I thought the whole point of RFA was to have other teams offer first?
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You make the QO or the player becomes unrestritcted. If you make the qualifying offer, then you can match any offer that comes.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
You have to make an offer to restricted free agents for them to stay restricted? I thought the whole point of RFA was to have other teams offer first?
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You have to make a qualifying offer for one year - the big question is - will the Blazers offer him the 8.7m for that one year so he stays RFA. If they do not, he becomes a free agent.
 
Master Shake said:
Did some of you not see this coming? He has been injured for a while in that knee. With no progress.

Camby is still a good center. I don't know for how long but he's solid.
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YES, for the love of FUCKING GOD WE SAW THIS POSSIBILITY. What the freak-fuck could we do about it, except hope for the best and root for our team? Now please, for the love of whatever cruel, heartless god governs injuries in this world, go back to your frigid little Toronto hockey board and leave us in peace.
 
I'm pretty numb to this news after all of the other bullshit going on the last several years injury wise, still terrible for the city and state sports-wise though.
 
Again, the fans have had so much patience through all of this.

I feel really bad for all of them.

Anyway, I'll be there Thursday and Saturday cheering them on against the Nuggets and the Jazz.
 
maxiep said:
You make the QO or the player becomes unrestritcted. If you make the qualifying offer, then you can match any offer that comes.
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Not really. Oden can accept the QO, play (sit on the bench) on it for a year, and then become an unrestricted free agent after his 5th year.

That is what David Lee did, right?
 
It would be nice to sign Greg to a $20 million, 10-year deal just so no other team and their competent training staff can rebuild him.
 
What could've been... just showing off the repetoire against the C's here.. goddammitt..

[video=youtube;ijvcpIbrljc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijvcpIbrljc&feature=fvst[/video]
 
BGrantFan said:
Not really. Oden can accept the QO, play (sit on the bench) on it for a year, and then become an unrestricted free agent after his 5th year.

That is what David Lee did, right?
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Should the Blazers even offer it at this point?
 
BeerBoy said:
This just fuckin' sucks balls!
Do you think his career is over?

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/11/breaking_news_blazers_greg_ode.html
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By the time he gets on the court again, if he ever gets on the court again, it will basically have been 5 years since he's played organized basketball. His best hope is probably 15 minutes per night while playing 55 games a season. Again, if he ever gets on a court again. He'll be 24 when the 2012-2013 season begins.
 
RoyToy said:
Should the Blazers even offer it at this point?
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To what end? He's probably a year+ away from returning to competitive action assuming all goes to plan ... and why would we expect this rehab to go to plan?
 
BGrantFan said:
barfo posted about lupus a second after I specifically told him that my oldest daughter had it, and then did so a third time.
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I think you are mistaken about that.

He said that Roy was going to die from it. HAHAHAHAH!

Funny thing is, I don't even think the guy is a Blazer fan. And yes, he is the magnet for my rage right now. Karma is a bitch, as I tried to say earlier.
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You certainly have plenty of rage, that's for sure.

barfo
 
I do appreciate the reminders that he's the one suffering the most here. The thought of being in his position, feeling things slip out of control and running out of positivity... It puts things in perspective a bit for us fans. He's a good kid, and deserved better than this.
 
Will someone please start a campaign to get people to write letters to the Blazers demanding that the training and medical staff be released? Our players don't even want our doctors performing surgery on them anymore.

This is ridiculous.
 
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