Millsap: the Poll

[Ed O]

This feels like a Trenton Hassell-like poll to make, but I gotta do it.

How do you feel about the offer sheet that the Blazers offered to Millsap? And why?

Here's the initial analytical document that I created last night to facilitate discussion.

http://www.filesavr.com/paulmillsap

Ed O.

 

[Minstrel]

Here's the initial analytical document that I created last night to facilitate discussion.

http://www.filesavr.com/paulmillsap

Haha, you're really milking that. So proud of it.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Fuck Milsap. Concentrate on locking in Roy and Aldridge.

 

[Ed O]

Haha, you're really milking that. So proud of it.

I enjoy the camp factor of it, and since I spent 30 minutes or whatever I did making it, I can at least make sure more people "enjoy" it.



Ed O.

 

[blazerboy30]

I enjoy the camp factor of it, and since I spent 30 minutes or whatever I did making it, I can at least make sure more people "enjoy" it.



Ed O.

You should have used a Google Docs presentation. Easier to share for all of us dying to see your slide deck.

 

[number 10]

I think it's a good move, not sure if Utah will match or not though. If they do, it still forces them to move Boozer for less than he's worth, possibly to Portland's benefit. If they don't match, Portland gets a very talented young player on a reasonable contract. Win-win.

 

[andalusian]

I like it. From an age point and quite possibly, willingness to play for the team - it is actually better than the Turk move - and I liked the Turk move (other than the long duration).

 

[PapaG]

Fuck Milsap. Concentrate on locking in Roy and Aldridge.

Nah, better to piss off those scrubs. Millsap for the title!

 

[Minstrel]

I'm somewhere between options 1 and 2. I like the move, not sure whether Utah will end up matching.

 

[southnc]

Utah will find a way to dump Boozer and match the offer.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'd love to believe Utah isn't going to match, but I feel that is something of a longshot. If we somehow do get him then I will at least be excited that Travis Outlaw isn't our backup 4 anymore and I'll be even more excited if KP can turn around and turn Outlaw and Joel into a high quality wing (Battier, etc.) or can turn Blake and Joel into a substantial upgrade at the point guard spot (Stephon Marbury ... )

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If we can land him, he'd be an awesome pickup.

He's a 24 y/o PF, who can be a legit starting PF on most teams, is coming in with the mindset as a willing backup. He put up 17/10 as a starter.

The talent is there and he's exactly what we need.

Boozer was out the entire month of December and Millsap showed his worth:

11 pts 10 rebs
22 pts 10 rebs
24 pts 13 rebs
18 pts 12 rebs
32 pts 10 rebs
14 pts 14 rebs
17 pts 12 rebs
15 pts 10 rebs
20 pts 12 rebs
17 pts 11 rebs
20 pts 13 rebs
13 pts 11 rebs

He also shot 60% from the field during this stretch.

 

[MikeDC]

The guy is a walking double double. The price is reasonable. It's really a no lose for you guys. Even if the Jazz match, it still puts them in a crummy financial bind.

 

[hypnosmurf]

I hope Utah matches, he's a great player but I don't understand over paying for a back-up PF when we need a starting PG and SF.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I hope Utah matches, he's a great player but I don't understand over paying for a back-up PF when we need a starting PG and SF.

If this was the last and only move then yes it would be a head scratcher, but if KP can somehow move Pryz and possibly one of Outlaw or Blake to address either the point guard position or the small forward position then it creates an opportunity to play Oden, LMA and Millsap in a 3 player front-court rotation with guys like Millsap and Oden probably getting about 30-32 minutes apiece (Oden because of likely foul trouble and possible injuries, Millsap because he's kind of undersized as a backup 5) and LMA getting his usual 36. To round it out you keep Pendergraph around as some emergency depth and for spot minutes as a backup forward/center.

 

[hypnosmurf]

I'm hoping it's a sign and trade, Millsap for Hinrich.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm hoping it's a sign and trade, Millsap for Hinrich.

Not possible, only Utah can sign and trade Millsap.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'm hoping it's a sign and trade, Millsap for Hinrich.

John Nash, is that you?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Those of you who think Utah won't match are going to be quite disappointed.

 

[hypnosmurf]

If this was the last and only move then yes it would be a head scratcher, but if KP can somehow move Pryz and possibly one of Outlaw or Blake to address either the point guard position or the small forward position then it creates an opportunity to play Oden, LMA and Millsap in a 3 player front-court rotation with guys like Millsap and Oden probably getting about 30-32 minutes apiece (Oden because of likely foul trouble and possible injuries, Millsap because he's kind of undersized as a backup 5) and LMA getting his usual 36. To round it out you keep Pendergraph around as some emergency depth and for spot minutes as a backup forward/center.

I'd love a 3 man rotation up front, but like you said Millsap is to small to play the 5 and Joel and Oden are too large to play the 4. I guess LMA could easily swing from 4 to 5 and as a outside player would match up well playing with any one of those bangers.

 

[hypnosmurf]

John Nash, is that you?

Hinrich's perimeter defense would help oden cut at least one foul a game.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'd love a 3 man rotation up front, but like you said Millsap is to small to play the 5 and Joel and Oden are too large to play the 4. I guess LMA could easily swing from 4 to 5 and as a outside player would match up well playing with any one of those bangers.

A Millsap, LMA, Oden Trio makes me think of Grant, Sheed and Sabonis ... that lineup seemed to work out pretty well until Grant decided he wanted out, so it's not unprecedented.

Edit: I don't think Millsap is too small to play the five, it just wouldn't be something you'd want to do for more than 10-15 minutes a game, or depending on matchups; I'd take him against most backup 5s currently in the league FWIW.

 

[PapaG]

If we can land him, he'd be an awesome pickup.

He's a 24 y/o PF, who can be a legit starting PF on most teams, is coming in with the mindset as a willing backup. He put up 17/10 as a starter.

The talent is there and he's exactly what we need.

Boozer was out the entire month of December and Millsap showed his worth:

11 pts 10 rebs
22 pts 10 rebs
24 pts 13 rebs
18 pts 12 rebs
32 pts 10 rebs
14 pts 14 rebs
17 pts 12 rebs
15 pts 10 rebs
20 pts 12 rebs
17 pts 11 rebs
20 pts 13 rebs
13 pts 11 rebs

He also shot 60% from the field during this stretch.

Utah went 6-6 in those games. I'm not sure what that means though.

 

[maxiep]

I love this move. I hate the Jazz, and this move puts them between a rock and a hard place.

The worst case scenario for us is we'll put Utah in a deathgrip where they're paying three guys $40MM (Williams, Kirilenko, Millsap) with little ability to improve.

I think this was a move to force Utah to move Boozer for cheap if they want our cap space.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I love this move. I hate the Jazz, and this move puts them between a rock and a hard place.

The worst case scenario for us is we'll put Utah in a deathgrip where they're paying three guys $40MM (Williams, Kirilenko, Millsap) with little ability to improve.

I think this was a move to force Utah to move Boozer for cheap if they want our cap space.

You're forgetting Okur, who was just signed to a new extension. And I may be wrong, but I thought they had someone else on a big contract as well.

 

[Minstrel]

You're forgetting Okur, who was just signed to a new extension. And I may be wrong, but I thought they had someone else on a big contract as well.

Well, Boozer. But he's not long-term.

 

[handiman]

The attempted signing only makes sense if we turn around and move Przybilla, but I would take Pryz over The Paperboy any day... Especially with the contract disparity. I just don't get it, other than to mess with Utah. (I thought we were saving that venom for Memphis?)

 

[alex42083]

I love the move. Any time you can weaken a division opponent is a great move, and it forces them to choose between Boozer and Millsap and puts the ball in their court now.
But it won't be easy trying to figure out how the minutes will be evened out.

 

[LittleAlex]

Well, Boozer. But he's not long-term.

AK 47 has the richest contract on the team, I believe. Two more years for a total of 35 million or some such madness.

Deron Williams is probably getting paid a decent amount as well.