MLE Targets

[Scalma]

lets say we have the full MLE ($8.5m) to offer. Who do we pursue?

Will Barton
JJ Redick
Tyreke Evans
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Trevor Ariza
Marco Belinelli
Mario Hezonja
Nick Young

Not saying all these players interest me, but these are the ones that probably fall in range. Redick will probably get more, but at his age, maybe not.

I think we'll land Barton.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If Tyreke is available for MLE, that would be amazing for this team. I'd be shocked if he got that little.

Hezonja would definitely interest me as well.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Not a great list IMO. How many teams have lots of cap room to offer more? It looks like there are about 6 top UFA's (who would never have come to Portland) and the Lakers can get two of them. That leaves 4. So how many teams will have money to go after them?

Then how many more who are left that can offer more than 8.5?

Take that number and eliminate the corresponding number of players from your list. Bottom line is we might not get a shot at all of those players....Right?

 

[illmatic99]

Will we even have full MLE? Esp if we bring back Ed/Napes/Pat along with Nurk?

 

[Scalma]

Not a great list IMO. How many teams have lots of cap room to offer more? It looks like there are about 6 UFA who are attractive.....(who would never have come to Portland) and the Lakers can get two of them. That leaves 4. So how many teams will have money to offer more than 8.5?

Take that number and eliminate the corresponding number of players from your list. Bottom line is we might not get a shot at all of those players....Right?

Yeah, I'm pretty much just trying to say that we have a chance to land Will Barton, and only Will Barton lol.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Yeah, I'm pretty much just trying to say that we have a chance to land Will Barton, and only Will Barton lol.

You know Will would consider us highly. But money talks. If someone threw a lot more at him then I expect him to go elsewhere. But if everyone is throwing what we are at him then he is ours imo (provided we want him, I know Dame does but who knows about the actual front office).

 

[Scalma]

You know Will would consider us highly. But money talks. If someone threw a lot more at him then I expect him to go elsewhere. But if everyone is throwing what we are at him then he is ours imo (provided we want him, I know Dame does but who knows about the actual front office).

Yeah I'm on the same boat. If the money is equal, he comes here. And he fills a need.

 

[tester551]

lets say we have the full MLE ($8.5m) to offer. Who do we pursue?.

This is a false narrative. Portland will only have the TAX MLE to use (about $5M) without being hard-capped. You need to set your sights a little lower.

 

[Natebishop3]

I still wonder if the plan is to bide our time until Anthony Davis becomes a free agent in 2020. At that point, currently, we only have four guys under contract during that summer. Obviously that could change if we sign Nurk/Bazz, but all our other massive deals run out at the same time.

 

[Schilly]

This is a false narrative. Portland will only have the TAX MLE to use (about $5M) without being hard-capped. You need to set your sights a little lower.

Since they are under the Tax right now assuming they don't add more players by the end of the regular season they won't be a tax paying MLE. They will have Full MLE over the summer.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The good news is all the free agents want to come to Portland, so..........

 

[glazeduck]

I'm certain that this will be an unpopular opinion... But my answer would be whoever allows us to trade CJ.

Of the names listed, I'd go with KCP. But that's just me...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Since they are under the Tax right now assuming they don't add more players by the end of the regular season they won't be a tax paying MLE. They will have Full MLE over the summer.

Posted in the trade deadline thread, but it's relevant here too.

In July, if they want to keep Nurkic, they'll need to not offer any more than the taxpayer MLE, because use of more than that would cap them out at the apron (projected to be around $129M).

The 9 salaries on the books for next year, plus the dead money, plus the charge for their first round pick, plus whatever non-tax MLE is given to whomever, would leave less than $10M to resign Nurkic, and that won't be enough.

So yes, they will have full MLE, but it would be foolish for them to use it.

 

[illmatic99]

This is the new reality. Paul Allen will not pay luxury tax.

I really think we can wave goodbye to Pat/Napier/Ed for sure. There is no way PA pays out the nose for this squad anymore.

And no one on that list will take us to the next level, so doubt we even use these exceptions.

 

[Scalma]

We could probably land Hezonja for the tax MLE. I doubt he'll cost more. He's close with Nurkic, I'm sure he'd consider it.

 

[Sarni]

I still wonder if the plan is to bide our time until Anthony Davis becomes a free agent in 2020. At that point, currently, we only have four guys under contract during that summer. Obviously that could change if we sign Nurk/Bazz, but all our other massive deals run out at the same time.

Why the hell would Davis come here?

 

[tester551]

Posted in the trade deadline thread, but it's relevant here too.

In July, if they want to keep Nurkic, they'll need to not offer any more than the taxpayer MLE, because use of more than that would cap them out at the apron (projected to be around $129M).

The 9 salaries on the books for next year, plus the dead money, plus the charge for their first round pick, plus whatever non-tax MLE is given to whomever, would leave less than $10M to resign Nurkic, and that won't be enough.

So yes, they will have full MLE, but it would be foolish for them to use it.

Exactly. As I said, they will only have the TAX MLE without being hard capped.

That's not going to happen. Ya'll need to set your sights lower. These are the 'repercussions' of being near the lux tax line.

 

[tester551]

This is the new reality. Paul Allen will not pay luxury tax.

I really think we can wave goodbye to Pat/Napier/Ed for sure. There is no way PA pays out the nose for this squad anymore.

And no one on that list will take us to the next level, so doubt we even use these exceptions.

I don't see a way for him to avoid paying the tax the next 2 years (without completely blowing it up).
Portland will be going for very cheep players this summer. I still think they re-sign Ed.

Pat & Napier are gone unless they agree to <$3M per season.

 

[Natebishop3]

Why the hell would Davis come here?

That's not a question for me. I'm not convinced he would.

But Dame has repeatedly said that he's the one guy that he would love to play with. Almost all of our contracts run out by that summer, with the exception of Dame/CJ/Collins/Swanigan/Nicholson.

 

[Pinwheel1]

This is the new reality. Paul Allen will not pay luxury tax.

I really think we can wave goodbye to Pat/Napier/Ed for sure. There is no way PA pays out the nose for this squad anymore.

And no one on that list will take us to the next level, so doubt we even use these exceptions.

You act like we didn't have one of the highest payrolls the last two seasons. The reality is he will pay if he thinks it will help, but not if it won't . Which is exactly how it should be.

 

[Lukee]

We got Bosnian and Serbian, I guess it's time for Croatian. So I want Hezonja, but someone will pay him more.

 

[Schilly]

By Getting under the tax threshold now this enables the Blazers to go over for the next 2 if needed and then the big contracts of Harkless, Turner and Leonard come off which should enable the Blazers to get back under ofr a year or 2 to avoid the repeater issues. The team wasn't going to win a title this season anyway, but positioning for the retooling needed to begin, by trimming immediate salary and immediately getting under the tax. Savvy not sexy, but you can also call it a correction. Realistically Vonleh got set free and he was a DNP CD this season so the team didn't get worse. Next season at the Deadline Harkless and Leonard become short term contracts of manageable size for a team trying to shorten contracts.

 

[andalusian]

We got Bosnian and Serbian, I guess it's time for Croatian. So I want Hezonja, but someone will pay him more.

Isn't this how the president gets his wives? He is up to a Slovenian now, right. (Quickly googling Slovenian basketball players_ oh wait, it's Luka Doncic, make the Blazers great again)