Moving Meyers to starting center

[BBert]

White Powder!
White Powder!

That'll get Shawn Kemp's attention.

 

[jlprk]

I agree with moving Myers to center, but he's got to recover from his injury and beat out three guys in front of him before inserting him into the starting lineup. Right now he's the 4th string center.

So you agree with moving him to center, but you don't agree with ever playing him in a game or scrimmage. I agree with you.

 

[jlprk]

Meyers interior help defense is terrible. He's late to react to everything. Though he's not a bad defender when he's actually in the right spot. He can play center if he improves on that.

But another problem is his ability to finish inside. He seem to be totally outside of his comfort zone in the paint. And that's not a good trait in a center either.

He is out of his comfort zone as an athlete of any sport. He even dresses like an earnest poet, in his turtleneck.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

So you agree with moving him to center, but you don't agree with ever playing him in a game or scrimmage. I agree with you.

I'm not sure what the heck to do with Myers really. Right now he's a back-up center that can make threes and play decent defense on centers who play with their back to the basket. By letting Myers spend the last two years hanging out on the perimeter chucking threes, the team has admitted that they've given up on him ever becoming a starting center.

 

[Denny Crane]

I like the idea of playing Leonard at either PF or C, depending on the situation.

He may end up being our starting C after next summer (assuming Plums walks).

But in the meantime, our PF rotation can shoot the 3 ball. If coach wants 3pt shooting from the C position at the same time, Leonard at C is the only and obvious choice.

 

[illmatic99]

I like the idea of playing Leonard at either PF or C, depending on the situation.

He may end up being our starting C after next summer (assuming Plums walks).

But in the meantime, our PF rotation can shoot the 3 ball. If coach wants 3pt shooting from the C position at the same time, Leonard at C is the only and obvious choice.

If we let Plums walk with nothing in return, we could potentially be looking at getting nothing in return for two straight first round picks (2015, 2016), and then giving up a near max player (Nic) for Noah. Hell, you expand that a bit to include free agents, and you get this:

Out:
TRob
Will Barton
2015 1st round pick
2016 1st round pick
Batum
Matthews
Aldridge
Lopez

In:
Vonleh
Davis
Aminu

Ouch.

We better get something in return for Plums.

 

[Denny Crane]

If we let Plums walk with nothing in return, we could potentially be looking at getting nothing in return for two straight first round picks (2015, 2016), and then giving up a near max player (Nic) for Noah. Hell, you expand that a bit to include free agents, and you get this:

Out:
TRob
Will Barton
2015 1st round pick
2016 1st round pick
Batum
Matthews
Aldridge
Lopez

In:
Vonleh
Davis
Aminu

Ouch.

We better get something in return for Plums.

I'd let a TRob (5th pick overall) walk in exchange for a 2nd round pick (Crabbe) who contributes.

Not sure the significance of the picks matters.

What we let go was a ~50+ win team that went nowhere.

What we have now is a ~50+ win team that is deeper, and IMO, more talented.

 

[illmatic99]

I'd let a TRob (5th pick overall) walk in exchange for a 2nd round pick (Crabbe) who contributes.

Not sure the significance of the picks matters.

What we let go was a ~50+ win team that went nowhere.

What we have now is a ~50+ win team that is deeper, and IMO, more talented.

This is truth and I agree with your assessment. But from a purely value perspective, it's pretty abysmal return on investment.

 

[riverman]

Not sure the significance of the picks matters.

ADAM MORRISON!!!!

 

[Denny Crane]

This is truth, and I agree with your assessment, but from a purely value perspective, it's pretty abysmal return on investment.

Fitting guys in the salary picture under the CBA is a jigsaw puzzle. The pieces have to fit just right.

Vonleh isn't a finished product. It was worth taking a shot on him given the upside and his puzzle piece in the salary structure. The guy has the potential to be a defensive player who can rebound and shoot 3's from the PF or C position. I look forward to seeing how he pans out. He's like 20?

Sometimes there is addition by subtraction. ...

It sure would be nice to get "something" for Plums (if we let him walk), but fitting that guy into the puzzle is an issue, and we're not sure if we're better off.

The real win is Ezeli can play and play big minutes.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Rehash the Stache!

 

[Boob-No-More]

This is truth and I agree with your assessment. But from a purely value perspective, it's pretty abysmal return on investment.

We also let Gerald Henderson walk to clear cap space to sign Evan Turner. We could have resigned Henderson if we'd preferred him over Turner.

The Batum trade really came down to this:

We could still have Nic Batum on a $125 million contract, or Noah Vonleh on a cheap rookie deal and Evan Turner on a $70 million contract. Nic is better in some ways than Turner, Turner is better in other ways than Nic. Overall, at this point, Nic may be ever so slightly better (I'm not convinced of that until I see Turner in Stotts' system), but he's not $55 million better.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

If we let Plums walk with nothing in return, we could potentially be looking at getting nothing in return for two straight first round picks (2015, 2016), and then giving up a near max player (Nic) for Noah. Hell, you expand that a bit to include free agents, and you get this:

Out:
TRob
Will Barton
2015 1st round pick
2016 1st round pick
Batum
Matthews
Aldridge
Lopez

And how many of those players went deeper in the playoffs last year than the guys who replaced them? ZERO.

In my mind, we didn't loose one damn thing in letting Batum, Aldridge, Matthews, and Lopez go. We got a lot younger without getting any worse. With those guys, we won 51 games and lost in the 1st round. Without them, once the young guys meshed, we won at a 53-win pace after Christmas, made it to the second round, as the youngest team in the playoffs, and gave the 73-win defending champs a good fight.

Other than the slow 11-20 start, we were every bit as good last year as the year before, and finished much stronger, and because we are so much younger, we will be better going forward.

BNM

 

[mook]

I'm not sure what the heck to do with Myers really. Right now he's a back-up center that can make threes and play decent defense on centers who play with their back to the basket. By letting Myers spend the last two years hanging out on the perimeter chucking threes, the team has admitted that they've given up on him ever becoming a starting center.

I think Stotts realized he was young and very mentally fragile, so they let him focus one aspect of his game from which he could build. Set up at the three point line and hit threes. It's actually a really good foundation for the team as currently comprised.

He's still only 24 years old. That's still really young for a big man. Now that he's got that three point game dialed in, he just needs to work on defense and he'd be the perfect fit in our system. Sit at the top of the key creating space for Lillard/CJ/Turner to drive and kick. If the shot misses, drop back, stop transition baskets and be tall, athletic first line of defense in the half court.

 

[Chris Craig]

Might as well play him at backup point guard while we are at it

 

[jlprk]

Chris Craig! I was just reading about you!

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...hris-craig-may-standoff-utah-school/90716272/

http://www.si.com/vault/2014/12/01/106676828/a-coach-unbalanced