Mystery still clouds Oden's Blazer status

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The only "truth" that Eggers talks about is that Oden is being very quiet about his status and that the team isn't talking ... it's a little odd.

That's what I'm talking about. It's easy to discredit a Cansuckoff or Quick, because they historically prove they like to stir the pot. Eggers, on the other hand, doesn't. So this "Mystery and seeled lips thingy" makes me question why?

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Nikolokolus... If Greg bolts and plays somewhere else you'd say "good luck?" I'd say Disloyal Thief!!! There kinda of the same word I guess! HAHAHHAHA!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Nikolokolus... If Greg bolts and plays somewhere else you'd say "good luck?" I'd say Disloyal Thief!!! There kinda of the same word I guess! HAHAHHAHA!

Yeah I would. I've thought it for awhile but I'll restate it again. I think Greg needs a change of scenery to get his head straight ... and that's assuming he can ever get his body right. I just think there is too much pressure for him here to be something he's probably not capable of (anymore).

And honestly, in a sport where players get treated and traded like stocks and commodities, the notion of "loyalty" is sort of laughable to me -- if it does exist it's mostly fleeting or a flat-out illusion.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If they have moved on why not trade him to a team willing to take the risk?

Either way, the management has handled this entire situation horribly.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If they have moved on why not trade him to a team willing to take the risk?

Either way, the management has handled this entire situation horribly.

All I'm going to say is not much good ever came out of committee.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

If the Blazers had no interest in re-signing him, why pay him anything this year? If he failed his physical, it seems to me that they could have said goodbye and saved a bit of money. It seems more likely that they figure it's worth the investment in order to be in the driver's seat with Bird Rights should Greg be able to show by the end of the season that he's worth a good sized contract next year.

+1

 

[Boob-No-More]

Eggers is one of the most fair minded and even-handed journos that cover the Portland market ... and there's nothing in his article that dissuades me from that point of view after reading this story.

I expect better from Eggers. It's not what he said, it's how he said it. I thought the snarkiness of his comments was unnecessary and unprofessional.

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Eggers is one of the most fair minded and even-handed journos that cover the Portland market ... and there's nothing in his article that dissuades me from that point of view after reading this story.

Which says a lot about the journos that cover the Portland market.

Honestly: "mystery still clouds..."? How about you shut up until the clouds part and, you know, you have something to report?

 

[HailBlazers]

^

Kerry let his emotions get the best of him, he must be a Blazers fan

 

[Boob-No-More]

Which says a lot about the journos that cover the Portland market.

Honestly: "mystery still clouds..."? How about you shut up until the clouds part and, you know, you have something to report?

He sure did get a lot of mileage out of a single "no comment' from Oden.

BNM

 

[maxiep]

Unreal. Fucking fickle fans. It's not like Oden has done this on purpose. As long as he's a Blazer, he has my full support.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Unreal. Fucking fickle fans. It's not like Oden has done this on purpose. As long as he's a Blazer, he has my full support.

Thank you! Agreed 100%.

BNM

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Fickle fans BS! If he bolts plays well somewhere else and walks off with 20+million bucks I have a problem with that! If he gets healthy and plays for Ptown and becomes a contributing player than I'm behind him. If he medically retires like Roy? No problem! BUT....... If he's just hanging out waiting to bolt for some other team than sorry, he's a jerk off!

 

[Ghost Pepper]

You're right Maxiep, Greg hasn't done this to himself, but he has rehabed slower than any player I've ever seen and he's had a handful of setbacks that most players don't run into.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Fickle fans BS! If he bolts plays well somewhere else and walks off with 20+million bucks I have a problem with that! If he gets healthy and plays for Ptown and becomes a contributing player than I'm behind him. If he medically retires like Roy? No problem! BUT....... If he's just hanging out waiting to bolt for some other team than sorry, he's a jerk off!

No, that just makes him a free agent.

 

[Nikolokolus]

You're right Maxiep, Greg hasn't done this to himself, but he has rehabed slower than any player I've ever seen and he's had a handful of setbacks that most players don't run into.

Well maybe that's because his body just isn't made for the rigors of basketball? I'm sorry, but I will never understand the argument to make injuries into some kind of moral bankruptcy issue with Greg ... Maybe with some players, but I just don't think that's what's happening here.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

That's a good one! HAHA!

That said...... Come on People!!! This isn't some traveling vet player like Camby on his 5th team, this is our once in a generation first round draft pick center that hasn't even played one full year for us, not ONE!! Ya think Dwight, Kobe, Shaq, Jordan, Bird, Magic would have left their teams this way? No way!!!!

I'm just saying he needs to give back "IF HE CAN" to the franchise that gave up KD for him! Is that so strange to say? The Rose Garden is sold out every night to fans that have been waiting for this guy for years. Honor it! Shit that's all I'm saying k?

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Ptown fans have been more than welcoming to Greg with all his physical problems and more than that "supportive" and I think they expected him to return that sentiment with his loyality to this franchise! Had Greg been on the Wizards, Celtics, Bulls or Lakers he'd be getting boos nightly on the sideline and they probably would have forced him into a medical retirement or cut him outright.

The blazers have been very good to this guy. He needs to step up!

 

[oldmangrouch]

Well maybe that's because his body just isn't made for the rigors of basketball? I'm sorry, but I will never understand the argument to make injuries into some kind of moral bankruptcy issue with Greg ... Maybe with some players, but I just don't think that's what's happening here.

If his injuries are legit, and they probably are, I agree 100%. Tanking, however, IS an ethical issue. If Oden could play and is just saying "F U" to the team and its fans, then he deserves to be despised.

I see the current reaction as a product of people no longer trusting the Blazers. The team's obsession with secrecy is wearing thin, and loyal fans don't appreciate being treated like mushrooms. Yes, the Blazers have a "right" to behave this way - but that doesn't mean it is a good idea.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Exactly!!

 

[Nikolokolus]

That's a good one! HAHA!

That said...... Come on People!!! This isn't some traveling vet player like Camby on his 5th team, this is our once in a generation first round draft pick center that hasn't even played one full year for us, not ONE!! Ya think Dwight, Kobe, Shaq, Jordan, Bird, Magic would have left their teams this way? No way!!!!

I'm just saying he needs to give back "IF HE CAN" to the franchise that gave up KD for him! Is that so strange to say? The Rose Garden is sold out every night to fans that have been waiting for this guy for years. Honor it! Shit that's all I'm saying k?

I don't see Greg's situation being at all similar to those HOFers you name. Those guys all had fantastic careers and enjoyed almost nothing but continuous success. Greg's situation is more like Kwame Brown's (or maybe Grant Hill is a better comparison?) It's been setback after disappointment after setback since he's been here. So not only has he had to contend with the inevitable depression that comes from being almost chronically injured, but he's supposed to bear the weight of an entire fanbases' broken dreams too?

I get that high expectations come with the territory as the number one pick, but expecting him to be some kind of "franchise savior" or live up to his draft position, that's just too much to much to ask in my opinion. If Greg wants to stay and if he can finally get healthy then awesome. If on the other hand he wants a change of scenery and a fresh start I won't begrudge him that; It's his life, it's his career and just because Portland drafted him that doesn't make him an indentured servant for "life."

 

[Nikolokolus]

If his injuries are legit, and they probably are, I agree 100%. Tanking, however, IS an ethical issue. If Oden could play and is just saying "F U" to the team and its fans, then he deserves to be despised.

I see the current reaction as a product of people no longer trusting the Blazers. The team's obsession with secrecy is wearing thin, and loyal fans don't appreciate being treated like mushrooms. Yes, the Blazers have a "right" to behave this way - but that doesn't mean it is a good idea.

Exactly!!

I guess I haven't seen any evidence so far that he's "tanking" or "sandbagging" aside from idle speculation on the part of some reporters and some posters around here.

 

[Shooter]

And to be perfectly honest, if Oden does walk this summer; I will put him on my "Most hated list". His choice, I know; but fuck him if he thinks he can grab millions from this organization, only to play on some other team.

Exactly. If Oden EVER has an NBA career, it better be in Portland. We've paid him millions for the last 5 years, and kept believing in him when no one else would. If he leaves us, he's an ungrateful punk.

 

[jlprk]

If Oden EVER has an NBA career, it better be in Portland.

He never will have a career. His problem is sensitivity to pain. That isn't going to change.

He will regret it all his life if he doesn't try basketball with a different training staff before retiring. He should switch teams. Don't worry, there will be no comeback. Have some class and don't boo him.

P.S. Why do you think Hedo had such a good game last night? He was booed heavily the last time he was here, so he was psyched up to take the pressure again.

 

[Elton]

My worry is that he might be sandbagging because of the contract renegotiation. I'm not saying he deserved the full QO, but I have to wonder if it isn't a bit of a standoff and he's just waiting to bolt.

For me, I just wish him the best. I can see the writing on the wall.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What has me bugged about this whole Oden mystery thing is Oden has shown little passion for the game and the organization during his time in Ptd.

I remember the whole Oden v Durant debate and most agreed that Durant had the personality that he eats, sleeps and breaths for basketball while Oden ponders being a dentist.

Maybe his injuries are ones that can't be overcome. Maybe he is giving 100% with rehab and coming back. Maybe he is loyal or thankful for all the Blazer organization has done for him.

But is it all a mystery because Oden doesn't say much and has outwardly shown very little passion since being in Ptd . . . and each year that mystery called Greg Oden becomes more frustrating because no one is really saying what is going on with Oden and he no longer gets the benefit of the doubt when it comes to many.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

I don't expect Greg to be a saviour at all at this point , but I do expect him to be loyal to the only franchise that has carried him this long and been so supportive for 4 years. He owes that at the least because he's been paid damn well to sit in a hot tub.

As for comparisons to Grant Hill or Kwame Brown? Grant was an allstar in Detroit for years before he started getting injured and Kwame atleast played a few years before he fizzed out. Greg has done neither!

 

[jlprk]

What has me bugged about this whole Oden mystery thing is Oden has shown little passion...has outwardly shown very little passion...

When he played, he was at least as passionate as Wallace is now. He was fighting everyone under the basket for possession, putting him in constant foul trouble. He avoids criticism off the court, but on the court he was very passionate.

He would have been a great, great center.

 

[magnifier661]

How many functions have oden gone to supporting the community? How many signing parties has he done? The few times I see him, he's itching for the locker at home games. He disconnected himself from the fans and city. And still you see kids and adults supporting him and wearing his number. Any other city and fan base would want his head. Pressure in portland?! Fucking please. If he was in l.a. Or new York; they would be after his head.

Our fan base, city and team has done nothing to support him. If he can play yet chooses to leave and play somewhere else; he is a piece of shit and I wish him the worst. And I hope the other team is suckered into giving him a 4 year albatross contract that is untradeable too.

 

[magnifier661]

But if he gives it a go and gives it a shot in pdx, then I will cheer him on. Even if he asks to leave this summer. Him not playing is chicken shit.