NBA expansion to Seattle is on the table

[THE HCP]

Two more cellar-dwellers!

That shit works itself out after a couple years.

 

[Chris Craig]

God I hope so! Miss that I-5 rivalry!

Yeah, nothing like the days when Qyntel Woods got pulled over on the way back from a game up there and flashed his rookie card in place of a license.

 

[THE HCP]

And Sheed and Dame getting popped in the yellow hummer was on the drive home from a game up there.

 

[illmatic99]

Two more cellar-dwellers!

Just look at how saturated the PG and C positions are these days. And how much money there is to go around. Who in the west is a true middling cellar dwellar? All the shitty teams (outside of maybe horribly run SAC) in the west (LAL, DEN, etc) have tons of young players they're developing. Hell, we have like 12 players that can warrant at least 15 mpg, and not nearly enough minutes to go around.

This dynamic has changed from just a decade ago when the league was so diluted of talent. If there was ever a time for expansion, now would be it. ESPECIALLY with the influx of money.

 

[blue9]

That shit works itself out after a couple years.

Regardless of whether Seattle becomes a great team, adding teams will only increase the amount of irrelevant teams in the league. Without looking at history I'm going to say that in any given season there are never more than 8 really great teams (that's probably generous) - the other 22 are somewhere between good and terrible. Adding two more teams isn't going to change the top of the league - if anything it'll reduce it to 7. Those two extra teams are going to be added to the 22 that already occupy the middle and bottom of the league. So now instead of having 22 irrelevant teams we'll have 24, or 25 if they siphon talent away from teams that would have otherwise been in the top 8.

 

[Nhawz]

I think in the next two seasons calabro is going to see how great this fan base is and with the uptick of this franchise, he's not going anywhere. One of the top 5 teams to watch in the NBA on a night to night basis. He's in a really good spot and he knew that when he took the job.

 

[e_blazer]

Damn, my wife loves those things!

Come on, man, don't make it so easy for the wife jokes by serving up lines like this.

 

[THE HCP]

Come on, man, don't make it so easy for the wife jokes by serving up lines like this.

The only reason I posted that was because I just got an email from Sly and Denny saying they want S2 to now be all rainbows and unicorns. No way any of you geeks.....errrr.......cool guys would use this post by me to be rude or disrespectful to the mother of my children.

 

[e_blazer]

The only reason I posted that was because I just got an email from Sly and Denny saying they want S2 to now be all rainbows and unicorns. No way any of you geeks.....errrr.......cool guys would use this post by me to be rude or disrespectful to the mother of my children.

You have more respect for the Trump-lights around here than I do, then.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

This is a good thing. Probably reduces travel as it would force realignment.

There's enough talent to go around and support 2 more teams probably. One in Seattle, and prolly Vegas.

Move a current Western team east and get 16 in each conference.

New Divisions:
SEA/POR/GSW/SAC
LAC/LAL/PHX/LVG (Gamblers)
SAS/DAL/HOU/NOP
DEN/UTA/OKC/MEM
IND/CHI/MIN/MIL
MIA/ORL/ATL/CHA
WAS/TOR/DET/CLE
BOS/NYK/BRK/PHI

 

[THE HCP]

Makes perfect sense^

 

[Boob-No-More]

We need one of two things, either more Northwest teams in the Northwest Division or some serious realignment. A NW Division made sense when there were teams in Portland, Seattle and Vancouver. Now, it makes ZERO sense. We are the only team that doesn't have a single division rival in the same time zone, and half of our division rivals are two time zones away. That's bullshit. No other division is split across three time zones (Pacific, Mountain and Central).

I'm all for adding one, or preferably two, new teams, as it would force a much needed realignment. Selfishly, Id like to see teams back in Seattle and Vancouver, but I doubt if the NBA gives VAN another chance. So, Vegas would be the next best thing. With two new teams in the West, move MEM and NOP to the East where they belong, but geographically and culturally.

Then create divisions based on time zones. It would be much more viewer friendly than having half your division rivals two times zones away and would surely increase TV ratings. Right now, road games against MIN and OKC start when many people in POR are still at work or during their evening commute. That hurts TV ratings. The opposite it true for fans of those teams when they play in Portland. Not only is there a two hour time difference, prime time TV programming in the Central Time Zone runs from 7:00pm to 10:00pm, not 8:00pm to 11:00pm, like it does on the coasts. That means fans of MIN and OKC are getting ready for bed about half an hour after tip off in POR. Most will be sound asleep by halftime.

And, we all know TV money is the coal that makes the NBA train roll.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Makes perfect sense^

Which means it would never happen.

 

[illmatic99]

New Divisions:
SEA/POR/GSW/SAC
LAC/LAL/PHX/LVG (Gamblers)
SAS/DAL/HOU/NOP
DEN/UTA/OKC/MEM
IND/CHI/MIN/MIL
MIA/ORL/ATL/CHA
WAS/TOR/DET/CLE
BOS/NYK/BRK/PHI

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Makes too much sense for them to actually do it

Which means it would never happen.

Jinx.

 

[Boob-No-More]

New Divisions:
SEA/POR/GSW/SAC
LAC/LAL/PHX/LVG (Gamblers)
SAS/DAL/HOU/NOP
DEN/UTA/OKC/MEM
IND/CHI/MIN/MIL
MIA/ORL/ATL/CHA
WAS/TOR/DET/CLE
BOS/NYK/BRK/PHI

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I type too slow, and you included a pretty picture. You FTW!

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

We'd protect Vonleh and probably NOT protect Turner or Crabbe. Both have expensive contracts for not being a first or second option.

FIFY, but the idea is absolutely correct. Player value (including future value) per dollar is what is most important here, not just Player value. Turner and Crabbe are two of the worst in that category.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

FIFY, but the idea is absolutely correct. Player value (including future value) per dollar is what is most important here, not just Player value. Turner and Crabbe are two of the worst in that category.

Interesting thought. So, our top 8 to protect would be Dame/CJ/Moe/Aminu/Plumlee/Vonleh/Davis/Leonard, and leave Crabbe/Turner/Ezeli unprotected (along with Napier/Connaughton/Layman)?

Of those left unprotected, would Ezeli be the most desirable due to his size and the size/length of his contract, or Crabbe due to his youth, scoring ability, and still untapped potential?

 

[Boob-No-More]

FIFY, but the idea is absolutely correct. Player value (including future value) per dollar is what is most important here, not just Player value. Turner and Crabbe are two of the worst in that category.

Yep, go back and look at previous expansion drafts. Expansion teams are looking for young, CHEAP talent. They'll take veterans, but only if they are on the last year of their current contract. They mostly just want enough guys to put a team on the floor until they can build through the draft. I mean, seriously, how competitive can you hope to be when your best player is someone else's 9th most valuable?

BNM

 

[Pinwheel1]

The 5 team divisions are stupid. They serve no purpose. Hell the division winner is not even guaranteed home court.
When I go to ESPM or NBA.com to look at the standings, I never look at the division version, I always look at the conference version because it's what matters.

If they add one more team out west, at the very least they should go back to two divisions : Pacific and Mid West
But I would not be opposed to just two in the whole league. West and East.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The best part about a Seattle franchise is that Toronto would have to stop using that dumb, "We the north!" slogan.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Interesting thought. So, our top 8 to protect would be Dame/CJ/Moe/Aminu/Plumlee/Vonleh/Davis/Leonard, and leave Crabbe/Turner/Ezeli unprotected (along with Napier/Connaughton/Layman)?

Of those left unprotected, would Ezeli be the most desirable due to his size and the size/length of his contract, or Crabbe due to his youth, scoring ability, and still untapped potential?

Definitely not Crabbe. He's the best player, but his contract is too big. Napier and maybe Layman might get picked because they are on cheap, rookie contracts. Ezeli, in spite of his injury history, is a low risk (financially) big man. His contract is vert team friendly. It's small, by current standards, and the second year is only partially guaranteed. If he doesn't work out, they can always waive him after year one.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

The best part about a Seattle franchise is that Toronto would have to stop using that dumb, "We the north!" slogan.

They shouldn't really be able to use it NOW if you think about son!

 

[Sedatedfork]

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What kind of balloon animal is that????

also, this would be cool to me, mainly so I can see the Blazers in Seattle. Unfortunately, I probably would lose all my blazer broadcasts. Might have to get league pass.

 

[BonesJones]

Further diluting the talent of the league...

We haven't expanded in years. Were actually overdue compared to the history of our league.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

FIFY, but the idea is absolutely correct. Player value (including future value) per dollar is what is most important here, not just Player value. Turner and Crabbe are two of the worst in that category.

I value Crabbe more because he has a much higher ceiling. I think he could be a legit first or second option in the right situation.

 

[BonesJones]

We'd protect Lillard, McCollum, Aminu, Plumlee, Davis, Crabbe and Leonard.

They wouldn't draft Turner as they wouldn't want to pay that amount of money to him.

 

[BonesJones]

Give Louisville, Virginia, St. Louis, or Kansas City a team.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I value Crabbe more because he has a much higher ceiling. I think he could be a legit first or second option in the right situation.

Really? What do you think Crabbe's ceiling is? I think he'll be nothing more than a role player. He's not starter material, IMO.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The best part about a Seattle franchise is that Toronto would have to stop using that dumb, "We the north!" slogan.

No, it won't. POR and MIN are both already north of TOR, but it doesn't stop them from using that stupid slogan.

We The North, the Raptors slogan, mocked by the Portland Trail Blazers

BNM

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Really? What do you think Crabbe's ceiling is? I think he'll be nothing more than a role player. He's not starter material, IMO.

A poor man's Klay Thompson. He just needs the shots, on an expansion team he'd get those.