Game Thread NBA PLAY-IN - PELICANS @ CLIPPERS - APRIL 15, 2022 - FRIDAY - 7:00 PM (PDT) TNT

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The only silver lining is now we may not get Grant. Which is a positive.

That's the only positive I can take out of this septic filled catastrophe.
 
Im pretty curious about how much CJs contract was not looked at fondly by GMs. The league isn’t lacking in quality SG’s.

I am not surprised that the Pelicans made the playoffs.
 
PCmor7 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I didn't want to post it because I felt maybe I was being a prisoner of the moment.

For it being a late lottery pick, it still feels like the rebuild was just dealt a major blow, though. I mean, the player if we'd drafted with that pick probably wouldn't have helped us much next year anyway.

And then I look at the Pelicans. The 17th and 35th picks from the last draft were solid contributors for them as rookies.
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Yeah, it was a marginal pick, but it's just unreal just how badly Cronin screwed the Pooch. How did we not get one of the following back in the CJ trade: The LAL pick if the NOP pick didn't convey PLUS either Herb Jones (this should have been the MINIMUM for CJ IMO) or Murphy. Any of those would have made it slightly reasonable.
 
Now if the Pels beat the Suns we still get the pick, right?
 
Tince said:
I've read a lot of stuff on the trade, but I hadn't seen anything saying they were desperate. Of course after the trade the Pels made it sound like they wanted him so bad, but that's what GMs say after trade no matter what.

I wasn't against running it back and losing in the 1st round again, but most people here were. Compiling negative assets was eventually going to catch up to us. Got to pay the piper at some point.
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Fischer said it on Danny Marangs podcast. They tried hard last year and they wanted him again this year. We could have had both Hart and Lonzo ball last year.
 
by the way, I know we're all swimming in our river of misery right now, but about the Clippers:

they will have a tax bill of 85M for a team that is out of the playoffs and in the lottery...but without a lottery pick. Between salary and tax, their total payroll this year is 252M. Blazers at 125M
 
illmatic99 said:
we gave up CJ/Nance/Snell/Norm/Roco for Hart/Winslow/Johnson/Louzada/Ingles/2025 pick/and the 58th pick in this draft.

i hate it, but "fucking idiot" is a generous word for our GM right now.

And people want to give him the reins for our most consequential summer in franchise history.
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I'd literally have almost anyone on this board instead of Cronin right now as GM even Mr. Robot if he was barred from Nurk related negotiations.
 
and again, the play-in is a joke.

it's fine if teams are bunched up together, but Clips had a 6 game lead on NO after 82 games and lost a single elimination game with their best player a last minute scratch.

need to amend that shit or risk completely minimizing the importance of the regular season.
 
B-Roy said:
Fischer said it on Danny Marangs podcast. They tried hard last year and they wanted him again this year. We could have had both Hart and Lonzo ball last year.
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that was olshey though, if true
 
wizenheimer said:
by the way, I know we're all swimming in our river of misery right now, but about the Clippers:

they will have a tax bill of 85M for a team that is out of the playoffs and in the lottery...but without a lottery pick. Between salary and tax, their total payroll this year is 252M. Blazers at 125M
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they can take solace in the fact that they have a nasty lineup coming back next yr.
 
wizenheimer said:
by the way, I know we're all swimming in our river of misery right now, but about the Clippers:

they will have a tax bill of 85M for a team that is out of the playoffs and in the lottery...but without a lottery pick. Between salary and tax, their total payroll this year is 252M. Blazers at 125M
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I stand by my prediction that one or both of Kawhi and PG are gone this summer, I will take it a step further and say about LA teams that likely both will see a superstar traded this offseason. Here's hoping and yes, you try and get in on that action.
 
wizenheimer said:
by the way, I know we're all swimming in our river of misery right now, but about the Clippers:

they will have a tax bill of 85M for a team that is out of the playoffs and in the lottery...but without a lottery pick. Between salary and tax, their total payroll this year is 252M. Blazers at 125M
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Sucks for Balmer.
 
illmatic99 said:
and again, the play-in is a joke.

it's fine if teams are bunched up together, but Clips had a 6 game lead on NO after 82 games and lost a single elimination game with their best player a last minute scratch.

need to amend that shit or risk completely minimizing the importance of the regular season.
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yeah, I'm beginning to agree with that after initially like the play-in.
 
Look at Lakers/Clippers. All those stars they acquired in 2019 and neither team is in playoffs 3 years later. Look at Nets. Signed Kyrie and KD in 2019 and all they’ve won is a playoff series and a play-in game.
 
illmatic99 said:
we gave up CJ/Nance/Snell/Norm/Roco for Hart/Winslow/Johnson/Louzada/Ingles/2025 pick/and the 58th pick in this draft.

i hate it, but "fucking idiot" is a generous word for our GM right now.

And people want to give him the reins for our most consequential summer in franchise history.
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Right!?!? It hurts more when you realize we gave two firsts and GT3 for Norm and Roco.
 
Idog1976 said:
Yeah, it was a marginal pick, but it's just unreal just how badly Cronin screwed the Pooch. How did we not get one of the following back in the CJ trade: The LAL pick if the NOP pick didn't convey PLUS either Herb Jones (this should have been the MINIMUM for CJ IMO) or Murphy. Any of those would have made it slightly reasonable.
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Totally agree.

If you're throwing Nance into that deal, you have to make a contingency that the Blazers get one of the two Pelicans' picks.

To me, not doing this, combined with the weak return for RoCo and Powell would be enough to show Cronin the door. I have a sinking feeling that isn't going to happen, but I think he could have maximized assets by trading all those guys off separately, not making it a tent sale.
 
wizenheimer said:
yeah, I'm beginning to agree with that after initially like the play-in.
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i suggested earlier that they can trigger a play-in if teams 8/9 are less than 3 games apart, something sorta like what they did in the bubble.

but with such a large difference between 8/10, there was no need for this this year. we knew very clearly who the superior and more deserving team was.
 
Tince said:
So don't run it back, but don't gamble? Trade your marginal player for all-stars?

Only problem with that strategy is you have to have another willing trade partner and/or an owner willing to pay deep into the tax. Dont' think either were on the table, but certainly not both.
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You don't have to run it back or gamble. Those aren't your only two options.
 
illmatic99 said:
and again, the play-in is a joke.

it's fine if teams are bunched up together, but Clips had a 6 game lead on NO after 82 games and lost a single elimination game with their best player a last minute scratch.

need to amend that shit or risk completely minimizing the importance of the regular season.
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AAAAAND lets come back to Earth about Covid and stop letting it destroy our lives. I was even in the ICU due to lack of fluids from Covid, so they tell me and I STILL don't think we should have stopped the planet and cost millions their jobs, crippled the economy and also we will see millions in the 3rd world starve assuming any of those "Even one life!" matters. The fact that PG13 was vaccinated got it and then got scratched last minute is incomprehensible to me in a Billion dollar business.
 
PDXFonz said:
Im pretty curious about how much CJs contract was not looked at fondly by GMs. The league isn’t lacking in quality SG’s.

I am not surprised that the Pelicans made the playoffs.
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He's a top 30 paid player, with two more years on his max deal. Of the top 30 paid players in the NBA, only two have failed to be all-stars in their career. Even tonight, he wasn't near a $30m player. There is zero doubt in my mind that CJ is looked at as a nice player, but a net negative asset because of what he makes.

A lot of Blazer fans have got used to talking themselves into overvaluing our talent. CJ/Nurk being near all-stars, Powell, RoCo, Aminu, Harkless, and Hood being solid wings. Yet when these guys leave, you typically see how little value they get in return and how their productivity decreases.
 
MickZagger said:
I can see Cronin saying the pick wasn’t that important it was getting out of CJ’s contract that gave us flexibility.

But like always with this organization. Flexibility to do what?

Add a mid tier free agent?
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Or get turned down by a mid-tier free agent? LOL!
 
Strenuus said:
The only silver lining is now we may not get Grant. Which is a positive.

That's the only positive I can take out of this septic filled catastrophe.
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what makes you think Cronin would not trade a 3rd pick for Grant?

I honestly don't know what he'd do. Might be best if the decision wasn't his
 
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