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tester551 said:
It also complicates things for the Blazers, as Hayward makes $5m morethan Whiteside is is likely out for the rest of the year.
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I am confused. Who is likely out the rest of the year?

The fact that Hayward makes 5 million more than Whiteside is an advantage for Boston. The ESPN trade machine says it still works with just the two of them. It has been wrong before, is it now? Seem like Whiteside is better than the 6'8" Theis if the C's want to win this year.
 
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It's tough to imagine the Blazers keeping Whiteside and just letting him expire unless Jody has said, "Enough is enough" in regards to spending and being over the cap. Whiteside, despite his limitations, does some things well and a team making a Playoff push might want him.

Same with Ariza. He is a veteran who can play defense and hit the '3' as we saw last night. However, he is not a longer term solution due to his age but could very well help a Playoff team this year.
 
TBpup said:
It's tough to imagine the Blazers keeping Whiteside and just letting him expire unless Jody has said, "Enough is enough" in regards to spending and being over the cap. Whiteside, despite his limitations, does some things well and a team making a Playoff push might want him.

Same with Ariza. He is a veteran who can play defense and hit the '3' as we saw last night. However, he is not a longer term solution due to his age but could very well help a Playoff team this year.
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doesnt Ariza have a very team friendly contract for next season as well?
 
TBpup said:
It's tough to imagine the Blazers keeping Whiteside and just letting him expire unless Jody has said, "Enough is enough" in regards to spending and being over the cap. Whiteside, despite his limitations, does some things well and a team making a Playoff push might want him.

Same with Ariza. He is a veteran who can play defense and hit the '3' as we saw last night. However, he is not a longer term solution due to his age but could very well help a Playoff team this year.
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If we got a wing type player either for Whiteside or in the offseaon, I could see keeping Ariza for next year to see how well Hood comes back first. Having Ariza, Hood, and one other quality wing would be a solid rotation despite Ariza's age. Best case scenario is that Hood starts to be "okay" by the trade deadline and Ariza could be expendable.
 
The biggest mistake at the deadline would be doing nothing. They need to either use Whiteside to get under the tax, or find upgrades, preferably that extend beyond this season. Ideally (for them) they’d accomplish both, but they gotta do at least one of the two.
 
hoopsjock said:
If we got a wing type player either for Whiteside or in the offseaon, I could see keeping Ariza for next year to see how well Hood comes back first. Having Ariza, Hood, and one other quality wing would be a solid rotation despite Ariza's age. Best case scenario is that Hood starts to be "okay" by the trade deadline and Ariza could be expendable.
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I’m going to apologize from the beginning for this post so don’t get upset.
But this is exactly why I have a hard time with trade discussions. Calling a player expendable after he essentially gives the team everything he has to make a solid contribution and maybe even position them to get into the playoffs is the callous side of the business I hope we never have to live through. Seriously go have a conversation with people who are in the business and talk like that? You will be shown the door. The only people who talk about other people like that are reporters and shock jocks. Oh and people on internet fan sites....
 
Scalma said:
The biggest mistake at the deadline would be doing nothing. They need to either use Whiteside to get under the tax, or find upgrades, preferably that extend beyond this season. Ideally (for them) they’d accomplish both, but they gotta do at least one of the two.
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Actually the biggest mistake is making a trade just for the sake 0f making a trade. In other words, trading Whiteside that offers very little help and adds payroll next year wouldn't be a good trade.
 
Must be the only one who follows Hassan on Snap, dude is doing a major landscape / pool reno on his home. #subtlesign
 
HailBlazers said:
Must be the only one who follows Hassan on Snap, dude is doing a major landscape / pool reno on his home. #subtlesign
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Did someone say pool? Evan Turner on line 1...

Who will we get back that looks better than Whiteside on paper but turns out to be an awful fit?
 
I don't think Whiteside will be traded by deadline. The reason there just not a lot takers. Last 2 games he play half a game decent and last game against Dallas except one block shot he wasn't good. Whiteside don't take angles away very good. Yes his stats are good by blocking shots and he rebounds his area. He try protect the going up with one hand instead going with two straight up or he has his downs. His lateral movement is slow so he easy take off the dribble. These want other team see in him that don't want a player lacks faundelmentals as a big.
 
kjironman1 said:
I’m going to apologize from the beginning for this post so don’t get upset.
But this is exactly why I have a hard time with trade discussions. Calling a player expendable after he essentially gives the team everything he has to make a solid contribution and maybe even position them to get into the playoffs is the callous side of the business I hope we never have to live through. Seriously go have a conversation with people who are in the business and talk like that? You will be shown the door. The only people who talk about other people like that are reporters and shock jocks. Oh and people on internet fan sites....
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Dude, why even open these trade threads if this is your opinion?

Have you seen the player movement in the NBA over the last 3 years? Contracts are treated as commodities, it's nothing personal against Whiteside or Ariza.
 
kjironman1 said:
I’m going to apologize from the beginning for this post so don’t get upset.
But this is exactly why I have a hard time with trade discussions. Calling a player expendable after he essentially gives the team everything he has to make a solid contribution and maybe even position them to get into the playoffs is the callous side of the business I hope we never have to live through. Seriously go have a conversation with people who are in the business and talk like that? You will be shown the door. The only people who talk about other people like that are reporters and shock jocks. Oh and people on internet fan sites....
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If you dont like trade talk, then dont click on the trade talk thread...

And why are we comparing normal every day business to professional sports where millionaires play a game for our entertainment?
 
CupWizier said:
Actually the biggest mistake is making a trade just for the sake 0f making a trade. In other words, trading Whiteside that offers very little help and adds payroll next year wouldn't be a good trade.
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Gotta have tradeable contracts this off-season and next season. Imagine if a star become available next year but the only way we can get them is if we trade one of Dame, CJ, or Nurkic?

Might as well cash Whiteside in now for someone that we know can help us next year and/or be an expiring contract used in trades instead of risking him becoming unhappy and unmotivated as a backup C then leaving in the offseason.
 
This makes sense for Dallas. Utah pick is going to be like no. 52-54. For GS it’s probably as much about getting extra roster spot and some cap relief as it is about getting the rather worthless pick.
 
Blazers 3.5 games away from the #5 pick in the Lottery where there will be some good pieces, certainly an influx of talent that this team needs no matter how young. They are currently 8 games behind the #7 Playoff spot, so the #8 (2.5 games back) is about as high as they could go barring some major shift.

If it's a choice of being dismanteled on National TV by the Lakers with the media fawning all over LeBron and AD or bringing back major pieces next year (Nurkic/Collins/Hood?) along with a high Lottery pick, after how this season has gone, this seems like an easy choice.

Many teams in the Lottery may be there for a long time but teams like the Warriors and the Blazers will have the pieces to reset almost instantly. So why not add to that as much as possible.

Obi-Wan Toppin is a a long, rangy 6'9" SF who is explosive but can also shoot the '3'....and almost perfect fit for the Blazers. He is rated somewhere between #4-#12 but has been climbing all season. If that type of prize is available for the frustration of this season, at least it is something. I'll take that over a dismissal at the hands of the purple and piss.
 
BonesJones said:
And why are we comparing normal every day business to professional sports where millionaires play a game for our entertainment?
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At what point has anyone compared this to "every day business"?
 
BonesJones said:
Gotta have tradeable contracts this off-season and next season. Imagine if a star become available next year but the only way we can get them is if we trade one of Dame, CJ, or Nurkic?

Might as well cash Whiteside in now for someone that we know can help us next year and/or be an expiring contract used in trades instead of risking him becoming unhappy and unmotivated as a backup C then leaving in the offseason.
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so you get an expiring contract for next year and then no good deals come about. Do you trade that for an expiring contract the following year and then again the next year so on and so on?
 
TBpup said:
Obi-Wan Toppin is a a long, rangy 6'9" SF who is explosive but can also shoot the '3'....and almost perfect fit for the Blazers. He is rated somewhere between #4-#12 but has been climbing all season. If that type of prize is available for the frustration of this season, at least it is something. I'll take that over a dismissal at the hands of the purple and piss.
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Obi is closer to being a center both offensively and defensively.
 
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TBpup said:
Blazers 3.5 games away from the #5 pick in the Lottery where there will be some good pieces, certainly an influx of talent that this team needs no matter how young. They are currently 8 games behind the #7 Playoff spot, so the #8 (2.5 games back) is about as high as they could go barring some major shift.

If it's a choice of being dismanteled on National TV by the Lakers with the media fawning all over LeBron and AD or bringing back major pieces next year (Nurkic/Collins/Hood?) along with a high Lottery pick, after how this season has gone, this seems like an easy choice.

Many teams in the Lottery may be there for a long time but teams like the Warriors and the Blazers will have the pieces to reset almost instantly. So why not add to that as much as possible.

Obi-Wan Toppin is a a long, rangy 6'9" SF who is explosive but can also shoot the '3'....and almost perfect fit for the Blazers. He is rated somewhere between #4-#12 but has been climbing all season. If that type of prize is available for the frustration of this season, at least it is something. I'll take that over a dismissal at the hands of the purple and piss.
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Have you watched this kid play I have last week offensely he might be find but I will question his defense thou seems slow with his lateral movement on D.
 
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According to Hollinger, everybody loses!
Reality: Mavs get Iggy without giving up young cheap players
Memphis dumps Slo-Mo along with Iggy, which they couldn't do with Mavs, and don't take on any salary past this year.
We get three great bench players (including two of my fave cult players). And both Wright and Anderson are (a) very good perimeter defenders, and (b) better bench distributors than anyone we have currently.
(Obvious objection: if Slo-Mo's worth getting, why would Memphis want to dump him? Answer: because they have a shit-ton of younger, cheaper wing players and aren't playing him that much. But I maintain (contrary to the evidence, perhaps) that Anderson is a Boris Diaw type of oddball who really needs to right context. And if he's allowed to be the PG he basically was at UCLA I think that'll be using him much better. I would also gladly accept TYUS JONES instead of Anderson if Memphis wanted to dump him instead.)
 
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Defensive minded players should be the focus, whether it be on the wing or the backcourt. Wright would’ve been great but that ship has probably sailed. Covington would be awesome and he can play the four. He’s worth a non lottery first, but considering how much Olshey seems to value picks, I doubt he agrees.

Olshey needs to turn either the Whiteside expiring or his exceptions into future pieces. He’s only got two weeks with Whiteside, and considering the realistic ceiling for the rest of this season (8th seed,) he should probably prioritize dumping him.
 
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