NBA warns Dame & his agent to stop asking for trade to just one team

[BIG Q]

What Dame/Goodwin did is explicitly restricted un the new CBA that was adopted.

A statement like that from Joe would not be restricted. He could get the message across without being so formal about it

Semantics, but it was not allowed under the previous CBA either. I posted somewhere that AD was fined regarding his public discourse in the trade to LAL. He was fined $50k. The NBA increased the fine to $150k in new CBA. Seems to be a priority.

 

[Idog1976]

As I stated, handled poorly on all fronts. I suppose that I do place most of the blame on the Blazers org. These guys are a dumpster fire. You know that every player and every team is watching to see how Dame is treated. This will have severe ramifications on how willing other players are going to engage with the Blazers in the future.

That has never ever been an issue, because people already didn't want to come here. Might as well say Archaeologists are hanging on every word and considering not doing Egyptology in Portland based on how Dame is treated. I absolutely love Dame the player. I'm profoundly disappointed in how this has been handled. Ask for a trade sure, state Miami is your preference but another contender like Brooklyn would work for him, and certainly under no circumstances tank your value through nefarious means as has been done. How you, Blazerkor and others defend this because of the FO and lets be real Olshey and Ownership didn't get it done for Dame is astonishing to me. Name the last Free Agent who signed with us that was noteworthy. I'll wait, much like we've been waiting for that to happen for decades. Hell, we couldn't land Hedo freaking Turkeyglue over Toronto when their team was meh and ours seemed on the cusp of real contention.

 

[Idog1976]

Oh my gosh Adam Silver, we're all so scared. Oooooooo. Run, lock the doors. F off Silver. You allow Golden State, Phoenix, others to circumvent the rules with the tax lines. You slap Jaws Moront on the wrist for being a bigtime turd. Like Dame & his agent are shaking in their boots. Get outta here with that gahbidge.

You guys should start a church of Damian Lillard as it sure seems like ya'll would be fine with him setting fire to the Moda Center using our one championship banner lit on fire to do it.

Unreal your apologias for Dame's camp's utterly abominable behavior! You gonna be a "inserts Dame's new team" fan when he's traded?

Man, I thought I was the biggest Dame lover on the planet. I actually literally told my ex-wife that she had a Hall Pass with Dame, but only if he got her pregnant so I could raise his son. I'm not even kidding actually, I told her that. Yep, I worshiped Dame until his agent tried to screw us which horrified me. As it turns out I barely liked the guy compared to some, because I didn't think he had carte blanche to tank his value and ensure we got fucked just to go where he wanted. Turns out I'm a fan of Laundry and loyal to the soil and also don't want to see small/undesirable market teams to get fucked in perpetuity by these kinds of tactics. Thank god the League at least publicly, agrees with me.

 

[Idog1976]

If I were in Cronin’s shoes, in light of yesterday’s announcement by the league, I’d issue a press release saying that after weeks of discussions with the Heat the Blazers don’t see a viable path to a trade and are closing down further negotiations. The Blazers remain open to honoring Dame’s request for a trade, but only for a return package commensurate with his value to the Blazers and All-NBA talent. Barring such a trade offer being forthcoming, the Blazers will welcome Dame at fall camp.

I'd love to see that for the meltdown of the Heat fans, and the local Heat/Dame fans who want us to take pennies on the dollar.

It's wild to me seeing some of the Dame can do no wrong folks throw the Organization under the bus based on speculation. Speculation can go both ways btw and we have at least as many data points that make Dame look bad.

Consider the following: Do we even know if say Dame vetoed trades of CJ in the past? No we don't, but I strongly suspect Lillard has had a LeBron type influence of arm chair GM for like at least 6 years or so. Look at the Blevins non-sense. I note CJ wasn't traded until he stepped out-of-bounds during Dame's Super Saiyan game against Denver and then Dame gave him "the look" which read, "your time here is short friend.".

People want to make all kinds of assumptions about the FO and as far as I can tell only Olshey's idiocy is to blame. The only rumored trades that would have actually helped all involved CJ and were seemingly turned down by Olshey and/or Dame.

People want to take Dame at face value and get conspiratorial about Cronin intentionally driving out Dame when Dame does two VERY suspect things. One, he waited until the ink was dry with his boy Grant's overpay pay day, and two, he asked for a trade almost the minute he could after signing his Mega Giga extension and we all know Dame is about them Dolla's, he's never hid that. And of course one has to assume that Dame has signed off on Aaron Badloss's egregious behavior which is also telling IMO.

I mean is that squinting and blaming Dame? Sure it is, I admit it, I don't actually know about Dame's arm chair GM-ing despite some evidence of that being there, but people are using even less evidence to assume more about Cronin in particular.

 

[Phatguysrule]

As I stated, handled poorly on all fronts. I suppose that I do place most of the blame on the Blazers org. These guys are a dumpster fire. You know that every player and every team is watching to see how Dame is treated. This will have severe ramifications on how willing other players are going to engage with the Blazers in the future.

Star players who this would impact were never going to willfully engage with the Blazers anyway.

And if someone has a problem with honoring their contract we didn't want them anyway.

We'll need to draft or trade for our stars. Like we always have.

 

[Idog1976]

Star players who this would impact were never going to willfully engage with the Blazers anyway.

And if someone has a problem with honoring their contract we didn't want them anyway.

We'll need to draft or trade for our stars. Like we always have.

Yep, the Denver, SAS, Toronto models are the ones to follow. Excellent drafting, brilliant trades and good to incredible coaching.

 

[TBpup]

Also my name. Haha

Of course there are good ones, but people like Aaron Fentress and Aaron Goodwin soil it for so many.

 

[Stevenson]

I still can't believe how quickly Dame spoiled his brand. Looking like a hypocrite is never a good look, but especially when you have built your reputation on loyalty and integrity. Dame now looks like just another selfish spoiled rich athlete.

 

[Bingo Bango]

There’s a lot going on here with Cronin. He isn’t just trying to get the best deal he can for Lillard (as he should), he’s also trying to salvage his own reputation. He’s given away some players for almost nothing, and been criticized for it, so he’s trying to prove he can pull off a great deal for Lillard. He has a reputation of being naïve and gullible in the NBA trade wars, and he wants to redeem himself.

 

[KingSpeed]

And Fans of Dame are monitoring how some fans have stabbed him in the back with their vile diatribes , when it was the GM not keeping his promises who started this BS.

So Ant/3 for Giannis was on the table and Joe turned it down?

 

[KingSpeed]

tank your value through nefarious means as has been done. How you, Blazerkor and others defend this because of the FO and Name the last Free Agent who signed with us that was noteworthy. I'll wait, much like we've been waiting for that to happen for decades. Hell, we couldn't land Hedo freaking Turkeyglue over Toronto when their team was meh and ours seemed on the cusp of real contention.

I won’t make you wait long. We signed Grant, Nurk, and Ant as free agents. Norm Powell too. In the last 2 years!

 

[PCmor7]

I think what a lot of Dame simps are overlooking -- probably deliberately -- is Dame isn't just asking for a trade to one specific team. He's deliberately poisoning the waters so that team doesn't have to give up anything of value in return.

That narrative isn't getting enough play, and it really should.

 

[STOMP]

Semantics, but it was not allowed under the previous CBA either. I posted somewhere that AD was fined regarding his public discourse in the trade to LAL. He was fined $50k. The NBA increased the fine to $150k in new CBA. Seems to be a priority.

When guys are making 10s of millions, this fine seems more of a pittance

STOMP

 

[Idog1976]

I won’t make you wait long. We signed Grant, Nurk, and Ant as free agents. Norm Powell too. In the last 2 years!

LOOOOOOOOOOL touche!

 

[Idog1976]

I think what a lot of Dame simps are overlooking -- probably deliberately -- is Dame isn't just asking for a trade to one specific team. He's deliberately poisoning the waters so that team doesn't have to give up anything of value in return.

That narrative isn't getting enough play, and it really should.

I try and play this narrative several times a day every day, because it's not so much narrative as it is fact.

 

[HailBlazers]

I think what a lot of Dame simps are overlooking -- probably deliberately -- is Dame isn't just asking for a trade to one specific team. He's deliberately poisoning the waters so that team doesn't have to give up anything of value in return.

That narrative isn't getting enough play, and it really should.

Didn't you hear? Joe lied to Dame. Said he was going to push all his chips in Shae,Scoot,Simons,Nurk for a Siakam rental and he didn't.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Yep, the Denver, SAS, Toronto models are the ones to follow. Excellent drafting, brilliant trades and good to incredible coaching.

Sounds simple

 

[kjironman1]

Love this take by Austin Rivers

It's not a bad take at all.
Two problems i see here in all of this.
Joe is incompetent and can't seem to build a solid team without losing a bunch of games and getting luck in the lotto. Obviously that has not happened. They missed two years in a row. Seems like he will continue to lose until they get a good pick.

Second. Dame signed a huge extension and then asked out. He is not a free agent but still wants to dictate where he wants to go. Maybe he should have thought about that before signing the contract?

 

[RR7]

It's not a bad take at all.
Two problems i see here in all of this.
Joe is incompetent and can't seem to build a solid team without losing a bunch of games and getting luck in the lotto. Obviously that has not happened. They missed two years in a row. Seems like he will continue to lose until they get a good pick.

Second. Dame signed a huge extension and then asked out. He is not a free agent but still wants to dictate where he wants to go. Maybe he should have thought about that before signing the contract?

You consider Scoot and Sharpe misses in the lotto?

 

[beast blazer]

I won’t make you wait long. We signed Grant, Nurk, and Ant as free agents. Norm Powell too. In the last 2 years!

Don't be silly. It's pretty clear he was talking about signing a free agent from another team. When is the last time we signed a good free agent that was not a re-signing. Wesley Matthews?

 

[kjironman1]

You consider Scoot and Sharpe misses in the lotto?

Sharp could become a good player but dunking is not what wins in this league. I see nothing in Scoot that tells me he is special. Hoping he becomes a serviceable PG.
Damian Lillard consistently showed us the will to win in HUGE situations. Sharp and Scoot have not even got the team to those situations and are still years from ever doing so.
Are we going to start saying Scoot and Sharpe need quality pieces around them? Really?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Star players who this would impact were never going to willfully engage with the Blazers anyway.

And if someone has a problem with honoring their contract we didn't want them anyway.

We'll need to draft or trade for our stars. Like we always have.

I get that we have historically been challenged to pick up free agents. Have had to trade or draft. I am thinking in player retention of those we manage to get. I have to believe that even the new guys we picked up are watching and have been schooled by current roster on how the promises to build around Dame never came to fruition.

 

[PCmor7]

I get that we have historically been challenged to pick up free agents. Have had to trade or draft. I am thinking in player retention of those we manage to get. I have to believe that even the new guys we picked up are watching and have been schooled by current roster on how the promises to build around Dame never came to fruition.

Why do you have to believe that? Why wouldn't you believe that Dame going to the playoffs here 8 of his first 9 years, being giving input into player acquisition, being given input into the coaching hire, being given a super-max contract and even having his cousin put on the roster for two years would be something the new guys were watching?

 

[kjironman1]

Why do you have to believe that? Why wouldn't you believe that Dame going to the playoffs here 8 of his first 9 years, being giving input into player acquisition, being given input into the coaching hire, being given a super-max contract and even having his cousin put on the roster for two years would be something the new guys were watching?

Because they have cousins also?

 

[theprunetang]

Sharp could become a good player but dunking is not what wins in this league. I see nothing in Scoot that tells me he is special. Hoping he becomes a serviceable PG.
Damian Lillard consistently showed us the will to win in HUGE situations. Sharp and Scoot have not even got the team to those situations and are still years from ever doing so.
Are we going to start saying Scoot and Sharpe need quality pieces around them? Really?

Respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you have said here.

 

[KingSpeed]

Respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you have said here.

Same.

 

[blazerkor]

Respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you have said here.

Yeah the experts around the league think that Scoot's game is a lot like a mix of Derrick Rose as far as offensive skills and Russell Westbrook as far as physicality at his position. I would say that's pretty exciting since those are two MVP winners who won those MVPs on skill sets that Scoot seems to combine and neither of whom have Scoots vocal positivity and charismatic leadership. @kjironman1 didn't even spell Shaedon's last name correctly, so that's kind of problematic. Calling the guy only a dunker means that you haven't watched the dude shoot from distance or seen all of his very effective midrange game including an almost unguardable turnaround fadeaway. Also inside he's more of an elite finisher than just a dunker given how he finishes contested layups.

Also both of these guys show elite level mobility and at times tenacity on defense.

 

[KingSpeed]

Sharp could become a good player but dunking is not what wins in this league. I see nothing in Scoot that tells me he is special. Hoping he becomes a serviceable PG.
Damian Lillard consistently showed us the will to win in HUGE situations. Sharp and Scoot have not even got the team to those situations and are still years from ever doing so.
Are we going to start saying Scoot and Sharpe need quality pieces around them? Really?

Tell Giannis, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, and LeBron that dunking doesn’t win in this league. The goal of any winning offense is to get the easiest baskets possible. GS is exception because they have two of the best longball shooters ever. But Shaedon is more than just a dunker anyway. Almost everyone, including the top scouts in the world, disagree with you on Scoot. And Scoot and Sharpe will need solid pieces around just like any stars do to win a championship. What a bizarre thing to question.

 

[kjironman1]

Respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you have said here.

You don’t think he will be a serviceable point guard? Wow?
I kind of think Sharp will be good? Thought that was a given at this point?

 

[kjironman1]

Tell Giannis, Shaq, Kobe, MJ, and LeBron that dunking doesn’t win in this league. The goal of any winning offense is to get the easiest baskets possible. GS is exception because they have two of the best longball shooters ever. But Shaedon is more than just a dunker anyway. Almost everyone, including the top scouts in the world, disagree with you on Scoot. And Scoot and Sharpe will need solid pieces around just like any stars do to win a championship. What a bizarre thing to question.

You just compared Sharpe to Giannis and Michael Jordan. Not to mention Shaq?
You have a pretty long history of being over the top.
This might be one of those times sir.