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Joe's press meeting today he said the border agents that did this will be held accountable and we are not going to see that happen again...he did the responsible thing and addressed it firmly. Was glad to hear it..
 
Is there any video of these BP agents actually whipping the migrants? Or are we taking one picture totally out of context and making a mountain out of a mole hill? I've been out with these agents as they train and go about their everyday work on horse back and those reigns are totally normal way of controlling their horses.
 
Is there any video of these BP agents actually whipping the migrants? Or are we taking one picture totally out of context and making a mountain out of a mole hill? I've been out with these agents as they train and go about their everyday work on horse back and those reigns are totally normal way of controlling their horses.
those horses can be controlled without using the reins...the agents were over the top considering their advantage..you can detain people without lashing them
 
those horses can be controlled without using the reins...the agents were over the top considering their advantage..you can detain people without lashing them

From a BP agent that is on horse back ... I'm guessing he knows more about the job than any of us ...
Jorge Fuentes

Definitely the best job I ever had, you become one with your horse. They learn to trust you. They will go to the end of the earth. If you ask them. We would train everyday with them. Definitely the best partner I have ever had. See what’s in my hands? Those are split reins; not whips, they are 6 feet long. They are split for when we go into the brush. If we go through thick Brush and a tree branch gets caught, it will just slip right through. The reins are connected to the bit. The bit is in their mouth and the last thing we want to do is hurt our partners by tearing up their mouths.

You have seen the video of the agent spinning the rein when illegals get close to the horse. It’s to create distance between the horse and the person on the ground. Our horses easily weigh 1200 pounds, they can step on someone and break a bone or kill a small child of a person gets to close. We also spin them if someone attempts to grab the reins because the last thing you want is someone who doesn’t know a thing about horses, to have control of the horse you are on. (If and illegal attempts to gain control of our reins it is considered deadly.) The horse can freak out, jump up and roll with you on them. Us as riders can be killed if a horse lands on us. Hope this helps those who have never seen a horse or split reins before… we will continue to support our brothers and sisters in Del Río
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Where is the proof they were lashing them? The guy that took the picture that is making the rounds has admitted the agents never whipped any one, at least not that he saw. Again, maybe it did happen but I haven't seen any pictures or videos that show these BP agents aggressively whipping anyone. If I'm wrong then so be it but I have yet to see any definitive picture, or even better yet video of this happening.

 
From a BP agent that is on horse back ... I'm guessing he knows more about the job than any of us ...
Jorge Fuentes

Definitely the best job I ever had, you become one with your horse. They learn to trust you. They will go to the end of the earth. If you ask them. We would train everyday with them. Definitely the best partner I have ever had. See what’s in my hands? Those are split reins; not whips, they are 6 feet long. They are split for when we go into the brush. If we go through thick Brush and a tree branch gets caught, it will just slip right through. The reins are connected to the bit. The bit is in their mouth and the last thing we want to do is hurt our partners by tearing up their mouths...

You have seen the video of the agent spinning the rein when illegals get close to the horse. It’s to create distance between the horse and the person on the ground. Our horses easily weigh 1200 pounds, they can step on someone and break a bone or kill a small child of a person gets to close. We also spin them if someone attempts to grab the reins because the last thing you want is someone who doesn’t know a thing about horses, to have control of the horse you are on. (If and illegal attempts to gain control of our reins it is considered deadly.) The horse can freak out, jump up and roll with you on them. Us as riders can be killed if a horse lands on us. Hope this helps those who have never seen a horse or split reins before… we will continue to support our brothers and sisters in Del Río
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HPU
A well trained horse needs no bit or split reins...a hackemore will do the same thing with no pain to the horse's mouth....I never used a bit on any of our 11 horses growing up and herding cattle...I also have two ex in laws who worked for the Border Patrol and not all these guys are well behaved to say the least...if abuse occured it should be addressed and according to some who've filed this complaint..it did include physical abuse...we'll see but don't jus let a cowboy hat fool you into thinking it's automatically a good guy....one agent was recently fired for molesting women detained at the border...they're not all boyscouts...and this is not a partisan issue....the other firing happened on Trump's watch....the border situation is fucked up and needs to be set right for once and all ..I think everyone can agree about that
 
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A well trained horse needs no bit or split reins...a hackemore will do the same thing with no pain to the horse's mouth....I never used a bit on any of our 11 horses growing up and herding cattle...I also have two ex in laws who worked for the Border Patrol and not all these guys are well behaved to say the least...if abuse occured it should be addressed and according to some who've filed this complaint..it did include physical abuse...we'll see but don't jus let a cowboy hat fool you into thinking it's automatically a good guy....one agent was recently fired for molesting women detained at the border...they're not all boyscouts...and this is not a partisan issue....the other firing happened on Trump's watch....the border situation is fucked up and needs to be set right for once and all ..I think everyone can agree about that

Oh don't get me wrong ... if you want examples of horrible Border Patrol agents, I've got PLENTY of examples, including the one I shared below, but in this situation I just don't think the uproar is warranted. I agree the situation down here is FUBAR and it goes back decades and numerous Presidencies.

Here's one of the 'good' guy BP agents ... https://www.kgns.tv/content/news/What-we-know-about-Juan-David-Ortiz-493520491.html
 
Is there any video of these BP agents actually whipping the migrants? Or are we taking one picture totally out of context and making a mountain out of a mole hill? I've been out with these agents as they train and go about their everyday work on horse back and those reigns are totally normal way of controlling their horses.
There's a video of an agent on horseback whipping some migrants.
Don't forget, these agents were installed by Trump and not easily fired. It's gonna take some time but they'll slowly get replaced by those more suited for the job.
 
There's a video of an agent on horseback whipping some migrants.
Don't forget, these agents were installed by Trump and not easily fired. It's gonna take some time but they'll slowly get replaced by those more suited for the job.

Everyone I see/hear keeps saying there is this video but I have yet to see it. I keep seeing a picture that even the guy that took it says it’s been taken out of context. Please link it so I can join in the uproar.
 
Everyone I see/hear keeps saying there is this video but I have yet to see it. I keep seeing a picture that even the guy that took it says it’s been taken out of context. Please link it so I can join in the uproar.
Can't link it because I saw it on the news. I think it was on PBS The News Hour. Must have been yesterday or the day before.
 
Everyone I see/hear keeps saying there is this video but I have yet to see it. I keep seeing a picture that even the guy that took it says it’s been taken out of context. Please link it so I can join in the uproar.

i just searched. No actual video. Video of them riding aroudn with a whip. Videos discussing a picture that is inconclusive.
Links to articles discussing the lib left fact checkers being silent on this..

no actual video of anyone whipping anyone.
With that said. I don't trust google searches either.
However if there was a video it would have been at the top of the list i would think.
 
i just searched. No actual video. Video of them riding aroudn with a whip. Videos discussing a picture that is inconclusive.
Links to articles discussing the lib left fact checkers being silent on this..

no actual video of anyone whipping anyone.
With that said. I don't trust google searches either.
However if there was a video it would have been at the top of the list i would think.
I saw the video on the news.
 
Here's the transcript where agents on horseback were using their horse reigns on immigrants which means slapping migrants with the reigns which can only be in a whipping like manner.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/h...-migrants-in-texas-biden-response-to-backlash

I watched this and no where does it have video of the whipping, again they reference the one picture that that I was talking about earlier. There is video of BP trying to cut off migrants but no whipping.

as for these guys being hired by Trump, the BP men/women I know have been working there long before Trump.
 
ya gotta find it then. I just searched and found tons of videos but none of an actual whipping.

im with you, I’ve looked through pages of google searches and nothing. If there was actual video of this you’d think it would be plastered on every news website.
 
I watched this and no where does it have video of the whipping, again they reference the one picture that that I was talking about earlier. There is video of BP trying to cut off migrants but no whipping.

as for these guys being hired by Trump, the BP men/women I know have been working there long before Trump.
It's there, they whip with their reins. Even President Biden referred to it as whipping. See PBS News Hour, Friday, September 24.
 
Still no videos i can find of any actual whipping. Just another case of a false headline manipulated by a political agenda that supersedes any investigative reporting to uncover the actual truth.

But hey, lets not let actual truths get in the way or our moralistic condemnations
 
Biden is an idiot.
He oughta be whipped.
Serious question…….would your responses be the same if Trump was still president and this had happened? I just can’t help but believe that a lot of people who are condemning Biden right now would be applauding Trump in the same situation, despite the fact that it is unconscionable regardless of who is in charge……
 
Serious question…….would your responses be the same if Trump was still president and this had happened? I just can’t help but believe that a lot of people who are condemning Biden right now would be applauding Trump in the same situation, despite the fact that it is unconscionable regardless of who is in charge……

Are you talking about the border patrol? What is unconscionable is Biden and other Dems lying about their actions. There was no “whipping” of black Haitians. That has been completely de-bunked.
 
Are you talking about the border patrol? What is unconscionable is Biden and other Dems lying about their actions. There was no “whipping” of black Haitians. That has been completely de-bunked.
Well……after four years of the former guy lying every time he opened his mouth (a habit he continues to this very moment), why are we all now clutching our pearls when yet another president lies???? Jeezus H., same shit, different day. Did you seriously expect anything different?? If so, then that is on you…….
 
Well……after four years of the former guy lying every time he opened his mouth (a habit he continues to this very moment), why are we all now clutching our pearls when yet another president lies???? Jeezus H., same shit, different day. Did you seriously expect anything different?? If so, then that is on you…….

So it’s okay to complain when Trump lied, but not when Biden lies? Got it.
 
So it’s okay to complain when Trump lied, but not when Biden lies? Got it.
I never said it was or wasn’t “okay” to complain. I just don’t understand why anyone is surprised or even outraged. Or why it matters this time around. Or maybe after all these years I’m just used to it. At least the current guy isn’t trying to overthrow the legally elected government of America……and I guess that’s what I personally care about most…….but a politician lying isn’t news.
 
So it’s okay to complain when Trump lied, but not when Biden lies? Got it.
Did Biden say there was whipping? Or did he say there would be an investigation? Can anybody post a video?
 
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