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OneLifeToLive said:
I know not many of you liked him but I would have never gotten rid him. I would have told him to go take a long vacation and clear your head. And be prepared to come back and run your business differently

He just had to many important skills. He was a very valuable man. The skills that you saw out of Larry Miller, KP and Tom Penn or Chris McGowan and Neil. That was Bob wrapped in one. He could have adusted his philosophy to fit that in way Allen wanted to go. He had good recruiters, a good scouting team. H
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Consider me a TB fan. I miss him and was said when he was essentially dumped.
 
santeesioux said:
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2015/...eg-monroe-knicks-celtics-lakers-hawks-blazers

Looks like we're interested in Monroe.
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The Knicks, Celtics, Lakers, Hawks and Trail Blazers have all expressed interest in the soft-spoken Georgetown big man, and could very well be the other teams Monroe has lined up to talk to.
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My guess is Monroe is the Blazers top FA target (outside of LaMarcus). Since he's only a 5 yr vet, his max (25% of CAP) is less than the 7-9 yr vets available (30% of CAP). That leaves the Blazers a bit of money to fill the gap at SF.
 
Monroe-LA would be pretty sick offensively and with the way the games changing, passable on defense. We could always bring in the stopper Plums.
 
Scalma said:
Monroe-LA would be pretty sick offensively and with the way the games changing, passable on defense. We could always bring in the stopper Plums.
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Plumlee is not a good defender. One of his weaknesses is defensive rotations.

Monroe may not be a great fit next to Aldridge or Love. Monroe likes the ball top key left, as does LA on pick and pops. Love also likes it left side. The difference of course is Monroe shoots almost all of his shots in the paint. An offense would need to be designed to take advantage of high low, but Aldridge would not have the space he currently does, Love would fair better.....just my opinion of course.
 
Start love/aldridge bench plums/Monroe. Where is biebs you ask? Filling the gap at sf. Twin towers? We got trips bitches.
 
I love your idea, sheed, but I can't think of a worse possible defensive configuration than a front line of Leonard at SF, Love at PF and LMA at C. But at least you bring Monroe off the bench. :)
 
BrianFromWA said:
I love your idea, sheed, but I can't think of a worse possible defensive configuration than a front line of Leonard at SF, Love at PF and LMA at C. But at least you bring Monroe off the bench. :)
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Aldridge is underrated man to man, imo he particularly plays well against centers. Biebs will get better. We would be all about scoring and with that line up you have 5 guys that can drill a 3. Have lillard and CJ playing passing lanes for fast break buckets.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Plumlee is not a good defender. One of his weaknesses is defensive rotations.

Monroe may not be a great fit next to Aldridge or Love. Monroe likes the ball top key left, as does LA on pick and pops. Love also likes it left side. The difference of course is Monroe shoots almost all of his shots in the paint. An offense would need to be designed to take advantage of high low, but Aldridge would not have the space he currently does, Love would fair better.....just my opinion of course.
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I was joking about plumlee

As for Monroe, there has to be a reason Portland was so interested in him last year. I linked it in another thread that Monroe is a lot more productive at C than PF. The Monroe/LA pairing intrigues me.
 
The only SF currently on the team is Crabbe and he's more of a SG.

I think Diez has a real shot at making the roster.
 
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Scalma said:
As for Monroe, there has to be a reason Portland was so interested in him last year. I linked it in another thread that Monroe is a lot more productive at C than PF. The Monroe/LA pairing intrigues me.
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I think they wanted Monroe on the cheap last year to kick the tires. He's a LaMarcus hedge since I have a feeling he doesn't want to sign with a team that plans to sick him at the 5. IMHO he's by far the best PF replacement on the market.
 
Simple... sign Lamarcus and Monroe, add offensive liability but stud defender Aminu. We have added then 2 guys under 25 years old and have youth, experience and talent for the next 5 years.
 
Schilly said:
Simple... sign Lamarcus and Monroe, add offensive liability but stud defender Aminu. We have added then 2 guys under 25 years old and have youth, experience and talent for the next 5 years.
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I just have a feeling your plan will be short lived with Aldridge.
 
Bottom Line: Aldridge wants to be a part of a "Big Three". He wasn't with Batum. Does Monroe count? I think/hope so.
 
craigehlo said:
I think they wanted Monroe on the cheap last year to kick the tires. He's a LaMarcus hedge since I have a feeling he doesn't want to sign with a team that plans to sick him at the 5. IMHO he's by far the best PF replacement on the market.
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He isn't very smart if he wants to.play PF.

He is far worse at PF than he is at center.
 
Side note on Monroe, he is 2 inches shorter than Meyers at only 6'9.75 in socks. And his wing span is also slightly shorter, but his standing reach is actually a half an inch longer at 9.05".

Vonleh on the other hand measured at only 6'8" but has a a slightly longer wing span than both of the other two and about the same standing reach at 9'.

Plumlee also has a 9' standing reach.

It doesn't really mean anything, but I was curious to compare them.
 
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Side not on Monroe, he is 2 inches shorter than Meyers at only 6'9.75 in socks. And his wing span is also slightly shorter, but his standing reach is actually a half an inch longer at 9.05".

Vonleh on the other hand measured at only 6'8" but has a a slightly longer wing span than both of the other two and about the same standing reach at 9'.

Plumlee also has a 9' standing reach.

It doesn't really mean anything, but I was curious to compare them.
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Vonleh was only 18 at the combine. Over at the Hornet forum they've talked about his physical growth. At 6'8" (w/o shoes) 240 lbs -- at 18 he was as big as Brian Grant.

It'll be interesting to see if we can get updated numbers. Each team does this every fall camp.
 
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Brian Grant: 6'8.5" w/o shoes | 247 lbs | 22 years old (wingspan not recorded) - 1994 combine
Noah Vonleh: 6'8" w/o shoes | 247 lbs | 18 years old
 
I keep having this thought in the back of my mind that part of what Neil is constructing is a team that can rest its top players some throughout the season like the Spurs so we don't fade at the end of the game and season and are fresher for the playoffs. Just a thought. Which does seem to fit nicely with the super bench idea/theory and an upgrade to try to keep LMA. And not just solid players but athletic players. The Spurs had a bench that could easily score 50 points which not only lets players rest more during the game but take games off.
 
riverman said:
I think Neil wants the deepest bench in the NBA and a top 2 way team. Everything you need for matchups is getting covered, shooters, slashers, defenders, and tempo..I'm impressed so far
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What defenders? Plumlee has some upside there but he is not good yet. Henderson is really not a good defender at all.
 
cmeese47 said:
What defenders? Plumlee has some upside there but he is not good yet. Henderson is really not a good defender at all.
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Aminu is a defender, Leonard improved drastically on defense, Henderson is in my view better than you think he is..he has quick hands, Lamarcus is a good defender, but none of them will defend well if they don't do it together. Plumlee is an excellent defender...it's a matter of opinion though whether you see CJ, Dame, etc making a defensive leap. Vonleh has a lot of potential to defend well and in my view is way better than TRob at 18..More importantly cmeese..what do you think so far about the moves we've made....Batum is gone and you should be happy yeah?
 
riverman said:
I think Neil wants the deepest bench in the NBA and a top 2 way team. Everything you need for matchups is getting covered, shooters, slashers, defenders, and tempo..I'm impressed so far
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I think we all want a deep bench for a change. At least an average bench. But then again....we'll see with Stotts still around.
 
People out way too much emphasis on individual defense, when systematic defense is what matters. Ours improved bit still has flaws. Aminu is better than Batum, Monroe is actually better than Monroe, and Henderson is better that whatever got from Afflalo.
 
riverman said:
I think Neil wants the deepest bench in the NBA and a top 2 way team. Everything you need for matchups is getting covered, shooters, slashers, defenders, and tempo..I'm impressed so far
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The team only has 7 players... not sure how everything is getting covered when we have less than half the roster.

But I agree in the sense the players have good skill sets. If we get a plodding starting center I like the change Plumlee brings.
 
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