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Consolidating the 15th and 20th picks into the 10th I don't count ad a trade in terms of legitimate team building (towards contention)... that's a draft move.

Same here. But he made that argument.
 
Consolidating the 15th and 20th picks into the 10th I don't count ad a trade in terms of legitimate team building (towards contention)... that's a draft move.
Kind of bullshit. He had those picks to consolidate because of trades. Not only did he make a great trade to get that Denver pick, but he also used it to trade up for a specific target. I criticize Olshey as much as anyone, but I personally believe your argument falls flat when actually examining it.
 
Kind of bullshit. He had those picks to consolidate because of trades. Not only did he make a great trade to get that Denver pick, but he also used it to trade up for a specific target. I criticize Olshey as much as anyone, but I personally believe your argument falls flat when actually examining it.
How? That was a draft move for a rookie. We're talking about trades for legitimate NBA players, not targeting someone in the draft and using two picks in a simple trade up.
 
How? That was a draft move for a rookie. We're talking about trades for legitimate NBA players, not targeting someone in the draft and using two picks in a simple trade up.

Because. Targeting a guy via trade or in the draft is still targeting a guy.
Trading two picks to get one higher up is still a trade negotiation.
 
Leaving todayon a cruise. Returning to PR 7/21. Who wants to bet that Neil makes a trade while in the time I'm gone? Because I don't believe that he will.

Slow boat to China?
Up a creek....without a paddle?
 
Uh, Nurk is better than OK. Get Real!
No he is not. Slightly above average starting center who is inefficient around the rim and plays solid defense so long as you don’t ask him to stray too far from the hoop. You’re letting 20 games from two seasons ago blind you.

Reality awaits you my friend just as soon as you let go of delusion.
 
No he is not. Slightly above average starting center who is inefficient around the rim and plays solid defense so long as you don’t ask him to stray too far from the hoop. You’re letting 20 games from two seasons ago blind you.

Reality awaits you my friend just as soon as you let go of delusion.

You’re clueless. His numbers in those 20 games were pretty similar to what he put up this season. He actually turned the ball over less this year and graded out better defensively. Everything else was almost identical.
 
You’re clueless. His numbers in those 20 games were pretty similar to what he put up this season. He actually turned the ball over less this year and graded out better defensively. Everything else was almost identical.
Is that why the market for him was so hot?
 
You guys need to get out and watch some other nba teams. Nurk is an ok player, not bad, but also nothing to be getting super excited about. Basically a younger marcin Gortat and making about the same money. You can’t play him 30+ minutes a night because of matchups. I like him fine but “get real” he’s not a top 10 center.
 
You guys need to get out and watch some other nba teams. Nurk is an ok player, not bad, but also nothing to be getting super excited about. Basically a younger marcin Gortat and making about the same money. You can’t play him 30+ minutes a night because of matchups. I like him fine but “get real” he’s not a top 10 center.
Nobody knows what he truly is yet. He's 23. At the place Nurk is right now Marc Gasol wasn't even in the NBA yet. Give him a bit of time. Some of those crazy floating whatever-they-ares becoming dunks and layups will do wonders.
 
You guys need to get out and watch some other nba teams. Nurk is an ok player, not bad, but also nothing to be getting super excited about. Basically a younger marcin Gortat and making about the same money. You can’t play him 30+ minutes a night because of matchups. I like him fine but “get real” he’s not a top 10 center.

What is your problem? Don't you dare bring in truth and logic to this forum. Either wear your Blazer Tinted Glasses or just spout useless stats until you bore others to death making them tap out.
 
Is that why the market for him was so hot?
He was a restricted free agent. That is almost never a good indication of how other teams view a player unless there is one team willing to overpay to get him. Not many teams needed a center or were willing to offer an amount high enough to where the Blazers wouldn't match.

You guys need to get out and watch some other nba teams. Nurk is an ok player, not bad, but also nothing to be getting super excited about. Basically a younger marcin Gortat and making about the same money. You can’t play him 30+ minutes a night because of matchups. I like him fine but “get real” he’s not a top 10 center.
Do you think a young Gortat could make one of the worst defenses in the NBA into a top-10 defense basically by himself?
 
There aren’t ten centers in the league with a better all around game than Nurkic.
I agree, but I don't really care. Nurk with more minutes from Baldwin and Collins should make us an amazing defense. Hopefully, that's what's we'll see. It's certainly what I'll be looking for this year.
 
No he is not. Slightly above average starting center who is inefficient around the rim and plays solid defense so long as you don’t ask him to stray too far from the hoop. You’re letting 20 games from two seasons ago blind you.

Reality awaits you my friend just as soon as you let go of delusion.
He's still young and developing. I saw his skillset in Denver and could tell then,bigger things were in store for the bigman. That's why I wanted the Blazers to acquire him, way before the Nuggets let it be known he was on the market for trade.
 
Nobody knows what he truly is yet. He's 23. At the place Nurk is right now Marc Gasol wasn't even in the NBA yet. Give him a bit of time. Some of those crazy floating whatever-they-ares becoming dunks and layups will do wonders.
And that's why he's untouchable. Because we don't know exactly what we have yet.
 
No he is not. Slightly above average starting center who is inefficient around the rim and plays solid defense so long as you don’t ask him to stray too far from the hoop. You’re letting 20 games from two seasons ago blind you.

Reality awaits you my friend just as soon as you let go of delusion.

Nurk is trending upwards. Objectively.
 
And that's why he's untouchable. Because we don't know exactly what we have yet.
I feel like, at a similar place in CJ's career, there were some who were saying fans were foolish for not advocating trading him for Jahlil Okafor. Or Luol Deng. Then again, it was probably because they compared him to E-Will. Because they weren't sure what they had yet.
 
There aren’t ten centers in the league with a better all around game than Nurkic.
Boogie
Davis
Horford
Kat
Kp
Jordan
Adams
Gasol
White side
Capela

In no particular order plus you add guys like Ayton and Jackson jr who will likely eclipse him soon...but yeah nurk is 1st ballot hof... how haven’t we retired his number yet?
 

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