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Yeah, but the difference is you don't see people on O-live ripping this site. I've been on both O-Live and BBF/S2, and I can say that until a group of people stopped posting there, O-Live was the better place to talk hoops.

I thought wherever i was.......... was the place to be!
 
The Bulls aren't horrid. They are 5-5, or 1 game behind us. They have also played a very tough schedule. The same as us if Roy doesn;t make a miraculous shot against Houston by the way.

The season is young, but I was referring to past seasons.
 
The original poster on O-Live is definitely legit, so I would tend to believe there's some fire to this smoke.

If the Blazers believe that Hinrich's decline over the last couple seasons is based more on a system change, I think this would be a great move for us.

During his 3-4 year run of his best seasons, Hinrich averaged 17 pts and 7 asst per 40 minutes. Here's a list of point guards in the league averaging that THIS season.

Chris Paul
Baron Davis
Steve Nash
Dwyane Wade
Chauncey Billups
Devin Harris
TJ Ford
Tony Parker

That's some pretty exclusive company...if he can return to form. And if we make the deal, I'm guessing it's because Pritchard believes he can and WILL return to form.

People seem to think we can get somebody better in free agency this summer...but who's really out there? Not a lot of PG options that I can see.
 
Well...it could be we're just showcasing Sergio lately, then do the trade. In the interim we'll have Blake and Jerryd man the point, which I'm relatively fine with. IIRC, Kirk has a kind of a shitty contract...but I really don't think we're going to be the huge Free Agent players many people expect us to be. Henrich gives us some good play at the point with some great bball IQ and outside shooting....i'm not 100% necessary we need him, but it wouldn't hurt

But if Sergio thinks he'll get PT playing behind Derrick Freakin' Rose, he's got another thing coming to him.

Maybe the trade would include Bayless or Outlaw and even perhaps us getting a Deng back or something....which would be pretty sweet.
 
Well...it could be we're just showcasing Sergio lately, then do the trade. In the interim we'll have Blake and Jerryd man the point, which I'm relatively fine with. IIRC, Kirk has a kind of a shitty contract...but I really don't think we're going to be the huge Free Agent players many people expect us to be. Henrich gives us some good play at the point with some great bball IQ and outside shooting....i'm not 100% necessary we need him, but it wouldn't hurt

But if Sergio thinks he'll get PT playing behind Derrick Freakin' Rose, he's got another thing coming to him.

Maybe the trade would include Bayless or Outlaw and even perhaps us getting a Deng back or something....which would be pretty sweet.



I'm convinced that we're showcasing Sergio. As for El Mago, he would finish his contract with Chicago and likely return to Spain.
 
Interesting.

Okay, so IF that has anything to do with anything...the deal would have to be a 3 for 2 or 4 for 3 or whatever.

Who else might they look to deal? Deng? Nocioni?

I don't understand your question.

If they cleared a space, they'll be taking one more player back than they send out... if they send out Hinrich and Simmons, they'd take back three players. The question seems to be who they would get from the Blazers in addition to Sergio and Raef.

Ed O.
 
I don't understand your question.

If they cleared a space, they'll be taking one more player back than they send out... if they send out Hinrich and Simmons, they'd take back three players. The question seems to be who they would get from the Blazers in addition to Sergio and Raef.

Ed O.
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I don't understand your question.

If they cleared a space, they'll be taking one more player back than they send out... if they send out Hinrich and Simmons, they'd take back three players. The question seems to be who they would get from the Blazers in addition to Sergio and Raef.

Ed O.


Well, Diogu seems like a likely appendix.
 
If we trade for Hinrich...
Blake would bitch less than Sergio when Bayless takes over backup PG.
 
If Raef is going to expire anyway, I'd prefer to take Hinrich and let blake go in the summer. By exchanging sergio and blake's salary, Hinrich adds almost zero incremental salary and provides an upgrade over blake. His skill set pairs well with Roy because he has the ability to play off the ball, as a spot up PG, but defensively he can guard PGs and well I might add.

I like the trade on first look.

Edit: looking at it again, we'd take on a few more millions, but not so many that it'd severely compromise our cap potential. It's still worth it for me to upgrade the starting PG position.
 
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Well the Bulls waiving Nichols to get their roster trimmed to 14 bodies today does certainly seem to indicate that they could be preparing for some kind of move ... I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
 
This is great. This sets into motion two things. Ben Gordon is the shooting guard of the future for the Bulls and also that they are going after the 2010 plan!

Bulls fans, lets get ready to welcome Lebron to Chicago...well that or Amare...or Dirk...or Bosh....or maybe welcome Chandler back....
 
Well the Bulls waiving Nichols to get their roster trimmed to 14 bodies today does certainly seem to indicate that they could be preparing for some kind of move ... I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

The Bulls are walking a luxury tax tight rope, and in this trade, the Bulls would take on extra salary, and Nichols contract was not fully guaranteed so they can cut him to shave a bit of money to sneak under the luxury tax.
 
The Bulls are walking a luxury tax tight rope, and in this trade, the Bulls would take on extra salary, and Nichols contract was not fully guaranteed so they can cut him to shave a bit of money to sneak under the luxury tax.

Actually Lafrentz contract is extra sweet for GMs worried about money because in another 31 games his contract is insured for 80% of its value, meaning any team that acquires him in trade is only going to be on the hook for his remaining salary at 20% plus the difference of however many games pass between now and the half-way mark in the season (roughly $2 million + $146,000 per game before game 41)
 
Don't forget that a good sized portion of Raef's salary will be covered by insurance - Bulls save that way too i believe?
 
The Bulls are walking a luxury tax tight rope, and in this trade, the Bulls would take on extra salary, and Nichols contract was not fully guaranteed so they can cut him to shave a bit of money to sneak under the luxury tax.

The great thing about Raef's contract that you may or may not know is that it will more than likely be paid by isurance, saving the team that owns his rights around 10 million dollars.

So while you are taking on more salary, you would actually be paying out less.
 
I think that since NBA salaries per game are paid at 1/110 season salary, it's actually at $115,659 per game, but the rest of your post is fine. :)
 
Hinrich is mediocre at his absolute best, and is looking more and more like someone who briefly overachieved and will be out of the league in a few years.

No way he draws any interest at all from the Blazers.

He sucks, to put it mildly.
 
Hinrich is mediocre at his absolute best, and is looking more and more like someone who briefly overachieved and will be out of the league in a few years.

No way he draws any interest at all from the Blazers.

He sucks, to put it mildly.



Uninformed at absolute best.
 
During his 3-4 year run of his best seasons, Hinrich averaged 17 pts and 7 asst per 40 minutes. Here's a list of point guards in the league averaging that THIS season.

Chris Paul
Baron Davis
Steve Nash
Dwyane Wade
Chauncey Billups
Devin Harris
TJ Ford
Tony Parker

That's some pretty exclusive company...if he can return to form.

In addition, Hinrich played better defense than anyone on that list except Billups and Harris.

If Pritchard believes Hinrich can return to that form, I'd be in favour of the deal.
 
Please no to Hinrich, unless it is for Blake frye and Ike. I'd rather have Sergio than Kirk right now, and Raef's deal should net us something more imo.
 
Please no to Hinrich, unless it is for Blake frye and Ike. I'd rather have Sergio than Kirk right now, and Raef's deal should net us something more imo.

I do not oppose Le Capitan - but I agree with this statement - the cap space for him seems like a wasted opportunity.
 
I could go either way on this. Sergio is actually playing pretty decently lately and this trades away a pretty good piece in La Frentz's contract. On the other hand Hinrich could fit in well on this team there is no guarantee we will do better either in the offseason or before the trading deadline.
 
If the best we get for Raef's contract is Hinrich... ouch... Every team in the league is trying to shed salaries simply so they can go after the '03 draft class.
 
If the best we get for Raef's contract is Hinrich... ouch... Every team in the league is trying to shed salaries simply so they can go after the '03 draft class.

But few teams are trying to shed salary by dumping excellent, young players. They largely want to drop highly-paid, declining veterans or players who are underperforming. Shopping in the "salary dump" section means choosing between flawed players.
 

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