I just think it's funny you are still in this "what about them?" mode. It doesn't matter if they have killed or not, they are bad for the country just as the white supremacists are. I only brought them up because lanny said they spawned for a racial reason which he is completely wrong about. That's it. Only time I would bring them up is when somebody defends them just as I would with white supremacists but nobody here has defended those guys where as I have seen people defend antifa. So yeah as soon as you start defending or doing this what if shit, it's dumb. They are both terrible groups and completely bad for society and the country. That's it
You are sitting there saying "hey do you really know them though? have you engaged in conversation?". Imagine me saying that about white supremacists. Like okay go try to debate them but what the fuck is the point because they are both completely wrong and here you go again with the "what about them" thing. "WELL ONE PERSON DIED. Yeah? it was terrible. And?
because nobody here has defended them and it's pretty normal as a human being to see an actual racist group and say okay that's definitely not right and bad, here you are demanding I speak up about them almost as if I have to prove myself to you. Come on. Get real
Watch the videos, they tell you right there what they are about.
Okay then go about your life thinking Antifa is a spectacular group here for justice!!! lol go on and stay in la la land
Jesus man you can't even have a political or deep conversation without your own emotions and bias getting in the way. It's like if somebody doesn't believe exactly what you believe, you freak the fuck out. Well what about this?!?!?! and what about that?!?!?! you can't answer anything I am saying. So i don't know if you are cool to talk with about other shit but god damn getting into it with you about all this other shit is tiring and just straight annoying
What would you like to debate Barfo?
My concern already with how you word this is almost a defensive approach already in favor of Antifa. Also by just calling them vandals. These aren't just vandals. These aren't kids taking out the neighborhoods mailboxes. They show up, they spread hateful messages about the police and are very misinformed in general. They bring knives and set shit on fire, throw shit at police officers, etc. Borderline domestic terrorists. I mean they show up and do this shit even when there is nothing to counter protest as we saw in the earlier protests of Trump whether it be in Portland or anywhere else at the time. Berkeley riots because some conservatives were set for speeches there. On the other hand you have Neo Nazis. Yes, very terrible. How many of them are there? who knows, could be quite a bit, could be a low number. It's low in the public eye because those groups are shunned and rightfully so. I think the issue I have is with Antifa and how accepting people are of them with the current political culture going on and this leftist ideology. Everybody right wing is a nazi to these guys, punch a nazi in the face etc. It's baseless stuff. Obviously I dislike both groups but like I said, one is more accepted than the other and that's an issue. You even showed that in your wording by saying they are just "vandals". That's not all they are. It's not a coincidence professors have been busted for posing as antifa. professors, whose job it is to teach the youth. I think that in itself is alarming. So for me, I am not defending any side here. Both groups should be shunned completely. There is enough divide in the country already.
I mean I am right here. I never said I don't give a shit. I have stated my opinion and that's that. Am I losing sleep or getting angry over this though? no. Just replying.
yeah...you should rethink that..it's not based in reality
Some liberals are too much in acceptance of Antifa as much as some republicans are in acceptance for the white supremacists. pick your poison
The crimes don't just amount to vandalism. You can't call bringing weapons and concealing them, throwing shit at cops and hurting others just vandalism. I don't think we have an issue with too many antifa or too many nazis. I hate that word nazi because I associate it with the ones that killed millions of jews and that to me isn't comparable to some rednecks with a swastika tattoo being racist. Still wrong I just think it's weird we call them nazis. They have zero power and are white supremacists. The word nazi is watered down now. Anybody can be one.
I'm from the South, I know.
It was the protestor that brought a gun and then fired it into the crowd of antiprotestors. It was the protestors that brought all the shields and metal bars and they used them attacking violently the anti protestors. It was over 30 anti protestors that went to the hospital while zero protestors went to the hospital. It was an anti protestor that was murdered there not a single protestor was murdered or even close to being murdered.
Do you believe that all this hate directed at African-Americans has miraculously gone away? All you have to do is look at our President. He was sued for not renting to African=Americans and he lost. It was Trump that called for hanging the Central Park 5 who were later exonerated by DNA evidence that proved they were all innocent and yet Trump called for their execution. He has never apologized for that tragic stance.