Trade Noel off the table

[B-Roy]

We woulda been in the exact situation with Plums had we not traded him 2 weeks ago.

Exactly, great fucking return for Plumlee. Fucking excellent. Everyone even said so at the time.

But Noel should have been Neil's bargain hunting paradise....

 

[Boob-No-More]

Exactly, great fucking return for Plumlee. Fucking excellent. Everyone even said so at the time.

But Noel should have been Neil's bargain hunting paradise....

Why not both? Nurk getting 17.9 MPG in DEN. Noel getting 19.4 MPG in PHI. Both racking up multiple DNP-Cds. Both could have easily gotten much more PT here than at their previous teams, even without playing together. And they definitely could have played together for several minutes a game.

Could have offered Crabbe + pick for Noel. Would have given PHI a wing that can actually shoot and dumping Crabbe's contract would have given us the room to re-sign Noel while staying under the luxury tax threshold.

BNM

 

[Pinwheel1]

The problem with PHI is they seem intent on dumping their young talent before it comes off its cheap rookie contract. Noel was a high lottery pick - gone. Okafor was a high lottery pick and he's available for a late first round pick. Those guys may never become superstars, but both are still ridiculously young and have a lot of upside. Not every player you take in the lottery is going to become a superstar, but you still need great role players. Noel as a 20-year old rookie was already an elite defender. Okafor may not fit as a starter, but he would be a great instant offense off the bench 6th man.

They draft these guys high in the lottery and 2 - 3 years later, they "cash them in" for lower picks. Will they ever actually try to win?

BNM

Also the 2013 and 2014 drafts were not really that good. Sure a few players drafted late turned out to be good, but overall they sucked. Which is the problem with tanking......you never know how good the draft is because the players now are so young and unproven.

 

[B-Roy]

Why not both?

BNM

That's what I'm saying...

 

[BBert]

As i see it, we can only get Butler if we get Okafor or we do a 3 team trade.
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You give Sixers one or two non Blazers draft picks as well if you have to.

Could we waive and stretch Rondo? Or are we limited to how often we can do that?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Dear Philly,
Don't buy out Bogut, trade him to Portland for Festus Ezeli.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Bogut back to Golden State (after a buyout) would be amusing.

Clearly we have different definitions of "amusing". You appear to mean "infuriating".

 

[Minstrel]

Clearly we have different definitions of "amusing". You appear to mean "infuriating".

I'm a Milo Yiannopoulus disciple. You clearly don't get our British senses of humor.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Dear Philly,
Don't buy out Bogut, trade him to Portland for Festus Ezeli.

Why? I thought we were tanking the last 26 games. Would he resign? How much would we have to over pay to keep him?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Why? I thought we were tanking the last 26 games. Would he resign? How much would we have to over pay to keep him?

Saves us 1 MIL (Festus' guaranteed amount next year) if we don't resign Bogut.

 

[B-Roy]

Why? I thought we were tanking the last 26 games. Would he resign? How much would we have to over pay to keep him?

Don't need him to resign. Just need him to kick the team's asses for not playing defense, and to knock Dame and CJ down in practice.

Won't happen though, Ezeli has guaranteed money next year.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Why? I thought we were tanking the last 26 games. Would he resign? How much would we have to over pay to keep him?

No one in the Blazers organization has said we're tanking, only prognosticators. Assuming we did not re-sign him, it would save us $1M next year. Would be great to take him for a test run.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I'm a Milo Yiannopoulus disciple. You clearly don't get our British senses of humor.

You mean like Benny Hill and Are You Being Served?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Don't need him to resign. Just need him to kick the team's asses for not playing defense, and to knock Dame and CJ down in practice.

Won't happen though, Ezeli has guaranteed money next year.

$1M isn't a big deal to a team below the salary floor. If we had $1M in cash, we could send them that, but I think we've used us most of our allowed "cash considations."

 

[e_blazer]

Shipping Leonard to Philly for Bogut would be an amusing way to dump salary.

 

[Pinwheel1]

No one in the Blazers organization has said we're tanking, only prognosticators. Assuming we did not re-sign him, it would save us $1M next year. Would be great to take him for a test run.

Yeah but he has been hurt again this year . Even if he played well for us, is it wise to overpay to keep him? And you know we would have to. And you know he would get hurt again.....because he always does.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The First Noel, the Olshey did say,
we're into the luxury tax, so we can't pay.

 

[Minstrel]

You mean like Benny Hill and Are You Being Served?

Are You Being Served? was one of the most played "British comedies" here on PBS. Fortunately, there were also good ones like Yes, (Prime) Minister and Black Adder. I also really liked Piglet Files, but I don't know how well-known that was even in England.

 

[B-Roy]

$1M isn't a big deal to a team below the salary floor. If we had $1M in cash, we could send them that, but I think we've used us most of our allowed "cash considations."

They save more money in a buyout and it's being reported the Mavs are actually going to be the ones paying off the rest of his contract...

 

[BlazerWookee]

Sure, if we trade only Festus for him and the don't resign Bogut this summer.

It wouldn't matter if we re-signed Bogut this summer because we're paying luxury tax anyway, right? The trick would be not triggering the first LT hit for this season, because of the increasingly stiff penalties for repeat LT hits...

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It wouldn't matter if we re-signed Bogut this summer because we're paying luxury tax anyway, right? The trick would be not triggering the first LT hit for this season, because of the increasingly stiff penalties for repeat LT hits...

Depends. If Crabbe and/or Leonard is traded by the draft then that is a sign that POR isn't ok with paying the Luxury tax next year.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

It wouldn't matter if we re-signed Bogut this summer because we're paying luxury tax anyway, right? The trick would be not triggering the first LT hit for this season, because of the increasingly stiff penalties for repeat LT hits...

As it stands, we'll be in the luxury tax next year. Things change, we're not resigned to that fate yet. An offseason Crabbe deal can easily get us out.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Clearly we have different definitions of "amusing". You appear to mean "infuriating".

I'd actually prefer to see him go to CLE and see CLE beat GSW in the finals again. That would be sweet revenge for Bogut. His injury in the finals last year was the biggest reason why CLE was able to come back from down 3-1 and win that series. Without Bogut, the last three games of that series became a lay up drill for LeBron and company as they outscored GSW by an average of 17 pts in the paint per game in those three games. After landing Durant, I'd love to see GSW get upset again in the finals and if Bogut helps CLE do so, that would be great cosmic, and karmic, retribution.

Also, I don't want to see Bogut go to BOS. In fact, I'd love to see Bogut go to CLE and both Jimmy Butler and Paul George traded anywhere but BOS. I'd love to see that shit weasel Danny Ainge left hold his own dick at a trade deadline orgy while his rivals get better and his team doesn't.

BNM

 

[BlazerWookee]

Are You Being Served? was one of the most played "British comedies" here on PBS. Fortunately, there were also good ones like Yes, (Prime) Minister and Black Adder. I also really liked Piglet Files, but I don't know how well-known that was even in England.

I loved AYBS?. Also, One foot in the Grave, Last of the Summer Wine, Black Adder, Father Ted, My Hero, et. al.

 

[Minstrel]

I loved AYBS?. Also, One foot in the Grave, Last of the Summer Wine, Black Adder, Father Ted, My Hero, et. al.

I never saw Father Ted on TV. A Swedish friend of mine recommended it, so I downloaded the series--not bad.

One Foot in the Grave and Last of the Summer Wine were pretty good shows. I've never seen or heard of My Hero. One that I forgot to mention that I liked quite a bit was Chef, but I think Rasta once told me that Chef was one of Lenny Henry's lesser known projects.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Also, I don't want to see Bogut go to BOS. In fact, I'd love to see Bogut go to CLE and both Jimmy Butler and Paul George traded anywhere but BOS. I'd love to see that shit weasel Danny Ainge left hold his own dick at a trade deadline orgy while his rivals get better and his team doesn't.

BNM

You have to admit that Ainge did a masterful job rebuilding from that "big three" team.

 

[Boob-No-More]

You have to admit that Ainge did a masterful job rebuilding from that "big three" team.

That only intensifies my hatred...

BNM

 

[Blazers Roy]

That only intensifies my hatred...

BNM

I respect that.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That only intensifies my hatred...

He completely fleeced BRK and their naive new owner. Plus, Billy King was their GM. Not a fair fight! Billie Jean King would have been a better GM. At least she has a history of out maneuvering cocky, old white guys.

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

You have to admit that Ainge did a masterful job rebuilding from that "big three" team.

Ainge has done well, but I wouldn't say masterful considering what he was handed.