Free Agent Nurk 4/$70m

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MickZagger said:
The only way I seeing us better than a play-in team is if Nas out and becomes a legit option and stays healthy.
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Watford is another possible hope. At 240 and a 7'2" wingspan, he has the size for a PF. I wonder if they think he can make that 2nd year jump. Of course, none of us want to have to rely on that to happen. He has the skills to be a decent backup. I just wish he was a little more athletic.
 
B-Roy said:
I actually like Mitchell Robinson at 4/60 better lol, but it is what it is. This is our reality. I think there's a pretty good chance he's moved in the first few years on this deal.
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Hell no. He's way more inconsistant.
 
B-Roy said:
If Ant is better than CJ on offense we're already at a better state.
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I mean CJ’s problem was never really his offense. He could score in bunches. But also freeze out his teammates.

Simons does feel like he doesn’t need the ball in his hand constantly in order to score points.

I’m a big defense person though. Our backcourt is still undersized and can’t defend. This team doesn’t really give any matchup problems to anyone because we’re severely lacking size and then versatility defensively.
 
DDolla said:
Damn, was praying for Ayton[/QUOT
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Scalma said:
Reading this message board, I can safely say no one is happier about this than I am. So I'm gonna resist all my urges to be rude and just say GLAD MY FUCKING CENTER IS BACK
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I'm happy as well. I still think Nurk can develop, and has finally gotten back to his physical self. I didn't want to overpay for Ayton. Go Nurk Go!
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Just a question.

With no signed contract, yet, COULD this become a S&T with Nurkic?
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it's theoretically possible. It's even possible that both Ant and Nurk agreed to the deals with the stipulation they could still be traded to certain teams. It's also possible Jessica Alba will show up at my door today, horny, while my wife is out of town
 
Mr. Robot said:
@wizenheimer

i read on reddit that nurk is 13th highest paid center

im curious where do you rank nurk
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Rudy Gobert $38,172,414
Karl-Anthony Towns $33,833,400
Joel Embiid $33,616,770
Nikola Jokić $32,478,837
Bam Adebayo $30,351,834
Nikola Vučević $22,000,000
Domantas Sabonis $19,937,500
Myles Turner $17,500,000
Clint Capela $18,206,897
Steven Adams $17,926,829
Jusuf Nurkić $16,600,000 (?)

that's 10 and I left off AD and Porzingis who have spent so much time playing PF (Turner as well I guess); that would make Nurk 13th. Arguably, you could only make a case that Nurk is comparable to Adams and Vucevic from that list in talent; and Turner in injury history. You also have to figure that Ayton will end up above Nurk on that list but he's better

but that isn't the only gauge of his contract

Lauri Markkanen $16,475,454
Jonas Valančiūnas $14,700,000
Christian Wood $14,317,459
Brook Lopez $13,906,976
Kelly Olynyk $12,804,878
Dwight Powell $11,080,125
Richaun Holmes $11,215,260
Derrick Favors $10,183,800
Montrezl Harrell $9,720,900
Tristan Thompson $9,946,611
Jakob Poeltl $9,398,148
Thomas Bryant $8,730,159
Mason Plumlee $8,525,000
Evan Mobley $8,478,720
DeAndre Jordan $7,827,907
Mo Bamba $?
Chris Boucher $7,009,615
Wendell Carter Jr. $14,150,000
Jaxson Hayes $6,803,012
Kevon Looney $5,178,572
JaVale McGee $?
Robin Lopez $?
Bobby Portis $?
Robert Williams $10,700,000
DeAndre Jordan $7,827,907
Dwight Howard $2,641,691
Enes Freedom $2,641,691
Andre Drummond $2,401,537
Mitchell Robinson $?

some of those guys are on rookie scale so it may be apples/oranges...but maybe not either. Is Nurkic worth 75% more than Poeltl? I don't think so especially considering Nurk's extensive injury history

the equation: if he has the 13th highest contract among C's, accounting for him being a traditional paint-locked C compared to many other C's who are comfortable on the perimeter in the new NBA; and considering his injury history...yes, he's overpaid.
 
wizenheimer said:
Rudy Gobert $38,172,414
Karl-Anthony Towns $33,833,400
Joel Embiid $33,616,770
Nikola Jokić $32,478,837
Bam Adebayo $30,351,834
Nikola Vučević $22,000,000
Domantas Sabonis $19,937,500
Myles Turner $17,500,000
Clint Capela $18,206,897
Steven Adams $17,926,829
Jusuf Nurkić $16,600,000 (?)

that's 10 and I left off AD and Porzingis who have spent so much time playing PF (Turner as well I guess); that would make Nurk 13th. Arguably, you could only make a case that Nurk is comparable to Adams and Vucevic from that list in talent; and Turner in injury history. You also have to figure that Ayton will end up above Nurk on that list but he's better

but that isn't the only gauge of his contract

Lauri Markkanen $16,475,454
Jonas Valančiūnas $14,700,000
Christian Wood $14,317,459
Brook Lopez $13,906,976
Kelly Olynyk $12,804,878
Dwight Powell $11,080,125
Richaun Holmes $11,215,260
Derrick Favors $10,183,800
Montrezl Harrell $9,720,900
Tristan Thompson $9,946,611
Jakob Poeltl $9,398,148
Thomas Bryant $8,730,159
Mason Plumlee $8,525,000
Evan Mobley $8,478,720
DeAndre Jordan $7,827,907
Mo Bamba $?
Chris Boucher $7,009,615
Wendell Carter Jr. $14,150,000
Jaxson Hayes $6,803,012
Kevon Looney $5,178,572
JaVale McGee $?
Robin Lopez $?
Bobby Portis $?
Robert Williams $10,700,000
DeAndre Jordan $7,827,907
Dwight Howard $2,641,691
Enes Freedom $2,641,691
Andre Drummond $2,401,537
Mitchell Robinson $?

some of those guys are on rookie scale so it may be apples/oranges...but maybe not either. Is Nurkic worth 75% more than Poeltl? I don't think so especially considering Nurk's extensive injury history

the equation: if he has the 13th highest contract among C's, accounting for him being a traditional paint-locked C compared to many other C's who are comfortable on the perimeter in the new NBA; and considering his injury history...yes, he's overpaid.
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If you dont think Nurk is comfortable on the perimeter you're not paying attention, especially last year. He has elite hands and is more mobile than the typical center his size. Theres a reason Billups adjusted the way he was used defensively as opposed to Stotts, and why they just committed to him long term.
 
Hell yeah! The Beast is back on a decent deal with 4 solid years...Eubanks signed as our backup...all is good! I didn't want to pay Ayton more than we paid Nurk and Eubanks combined and glad we didn't. Eubanks hook shot is for real and he can run the floor. It's a good off season...anyone who thinks we suck or are mediocre is just ranting. We're a hell of a lot better than we were starting last season and it's not close...defense! Pass it on!
 
riverman said:
Hell yeah! The Beast is back on a decent deal with 4 solid years...Eubanks signed as our backup...all is good! I didn't want to pay Ayton more than we paid Nurk and Eubanks combined and glad we didn't. Eubanks hook shot is for real and he can run the floor. It's a good off season...anyone who thinks we suck or are mediocre is just ranting. We're a hell of a lot better than we were starting last season and it's not close...defense! Pass it on!
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He does have that hook shot. Money!
 
riverman said:
Hell yeah! The Beast is back on a decent deal with 4 solid years...Eubanks signed as our backup...all is good! I didn't want to pay Ayton more than we paid Nurk and Eubanks combined and glad we didn't. Eubanks hook shot is for real and he can run the floor. It's a good off season...anyone who thinks we suck or are mediocre is just ranting. We're a hell of a lot better than we were starting last season and it's not close...defense! Pass it on!
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My only fear is the fall off of depth and you can't argue that Nurk is not injury prone. That's my one and only worry. And we're the blazers and he's a center so...
 
Strenuus said:
My only fear is the fall off of depth and you can't argue that Nurk is not injury prone. That's my one and only worry. And we're the blazers and he's a center so...
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I kinda wish they signed another center, someone with true size who can do some of the things that Nurk does. Easier said than done, but Cousins is still out there. A Nurk/Cousins/Eubanks depth chart with Watford as the small ball center would make me feel pretty good.
 
Scalma said:
I kinda wish they signed another center, someone with true size who can do some of the things that Nurk does. Easier said than done, but Cousins is still out there. A Nurk/Cousins/Eubanks depth chart with Watford as the small ball center would make me feel pretty good.
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Interesting that Moses Brown and Wenyen Gabriel got backup center jobs with good teams while Cousins and Whiteside and Kanter are still without a job. Boston signed Gabriels and I think the Clippers signed Moses Brown today
 
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riverman said:
Interesting that Moses Brown and Wenyen Gabriel got backup center jobs with good teams while Cousins and Whiteside and Kanter are still without a job. Boston signed Gabriels and I think the Clippers signed Moses Brown today
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Whiteside is another guy I’d sign, but not sure how he fits with Billups, although he evidently did get an offer from Portland last offseason.
 
is there any word on if there are incentives in Nurk's contract for games played, etc.?
 
Scalma said:
I kinda wish they signed another center, someone with true size who can do some of the things that Nurk does. Easier said than done, but Cousins is still out there. A Nurk/Cousins/Eubanks depth chart with Watford as the small ball center would make me feel pretty good.
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I agree with you on this for sure. I just don't know if there is any way to get him? Only so much money out there.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
I agree with you on this for sure. I just don't know if there is any way to get him? Only so much money out there.
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they have financial space for at least one more minimum, but if they give walker a standard contract they’ll need to dump someone like Didi first. I don’t see any remaining free agent getting more than the minimum outside the obvious names like Ayton.
 
Scalma said:
they have financial space for at least one more minimum, but if they give walker a standard contract they’ll need to dump someone like Didi first. I don’t see any remaining free agent getting more than the minimum outside the obvious names like Ayton.
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I don't really want the guy here again but Aldridge is also available. Put up decent numbers last year for 47 games.
 
Scalma said:
they have financial space for at least one more minimum, but if they give walker a standard contract they’ll need to dump someone like Didi first. I don’t see any remaining free agent getting more than the minimum outside the obvious names like Ayton.
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Hes not a C, but Gallo would be interesting.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
I don't really want the guy here again but Aldridge is also available. Put up decent numbers last year for 47 games.
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I'd be OK with Aldridge returning on a min. but my daughter wouldn't. LA was her favorite player until he turned coat. Now, she can't stand him, and wants nothing to do with him. I think he's paid enough penance making that move to the Spurs, and really missing a great opportunity here. He could be a nice veteran addition to the bench.
 
Scalma said:
they have financial space for at least one more minimum, but if they give walker a standard contract they’ll need to dump someone like Didi first. I don’t see any remaining free agent getting more than the minimum outside the obvious names like Ayton.
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Man, DiDi just doesn't show anything.
 
Don’t get the Nurk hate. Offensively hes never looked better and last year he was used in a higher usage role. He’s a good passer, sets good screens, better than average rebounder and plays really good team defense.
 
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Never been a big Gallo fan.

Gallo was flopping while harden was in diapers.
 
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