Exclusive Nurk has to go too

[Cugel]

He is a good or even great backup center.

 

[andalusian]

Nurk is not a huge asset in the modern NBA, if you can move him for something, even cap space, it's the right thing to do, but frankly, it was more important to do that if the team tried to win with Dame, if we are rebuilding, just whenever it works, move him

 

[wizenheimer]

I'd sure like Claxton from them

Claxton would be nice, but hardly necessary. If the choice is between Claxton and another future 1st round pick I'd probably go for the pick

 

[Mediocre Man]

Maybe Coach can get more out of Scoot than he would ever get out of Dame

I don’t have a lot of faith, but I hope you’re right

 

[Mediocre Man]

if all 4 thing happen opposite of what you expect will you survive a quadruple shock?

or is Quadruple Shock a new beer at McMenamins?

I think it might be both? And I’ve survived worse

 

[BankTeller]

I'd sure like Claxton from them

I think you’d be asking for too much. At this point, if the best offer having an extra job to extract a 1st out of Herro + Lowry’s salary + 2-3 1sts is his preferred destination’s best offer? Getting back Simmons, a Nurk TPE, DFS, and 5-6 1sts including the PHX ones is more than we can even imagine.

If you tell Dame “we’re sending you to Brooklyn and you can keep Mikal, Cam Johnson, Royce, Claxton, and you’re getting Nurk instead of Simmons”, he might actually be willing to go there.

 

[Sloth]

Just an FYI:

If Nurk does go, I have a home jersey of his will sell for 30 bucks, shipping included, 2xl. Does have a chocolate stain on the bottom back but not really that noticeable, cheers.

 

[Paine Tablet]

Claxton would be nice, but hardly necessary. If the choice is between Claxton and another future 1st round pick I'd probably go for the pick

Kicking a competent team down the road for what grand purpose? Tanking is fun!!! Said the fucking r-slur.

edit: No personal insult intended.

 

[wizenheimer]

Kicking a competent team down the road for what grand purpose? Tanking is fun!!! Said the fucking r-slur.

edit: No personal insult intended.

lol...yeah, Claxton is the key to a playoff spot. He'll be UFA in a year as well.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don’t think the kids would learn good habits from him.

Yeah I don't see him being a good influence at all with Dame gone. We don't want him here.

 

[Paine Tablet]

lol...yeah, Claxton is the key to a playoff spot. He'll be UFA in a year as well.

He's 24, like Ant. The idea that they are outside of a playoff window with Sharpe and Scoot is absurdity. You want perpetual dogshit, go ahead.

 

[wizenheimer]

He's 24, like Ant. The idea that they are outside of a playoff window with Sharpe and Scoot is absurdity. You want perpetual dogshit, go ahead.

calm down....I said I was fine with Claxton. I also said he wasn't a make-or-break addition to the deal. If the choice was Claxton or the 2027 Phoenix 1st, I'd probably take the first

 

[illmatic99]

Cronin's wife posted an update on IG from Croatia. She and presumably Joe are either there for a vacation with Nurk and his fiance. Or perhaps Jusuf is getting married there shortly and the Cronins are in town.

Wonder if Dame will be there too?

 

[Pinwheel1]

calm down....I said I was fine with Claxton. I also said he wasn't a make-or-break addition to the deal. If the choice was Claxton or the 2027 Phoenix 1st, I'd probably take the first

I can see both sides of the argument. At first glance, I would much rather take the proven defender in Claxton over the unknown draft pick in 4 years. But he is unrestricted in 1 year.....and can go anywhere he wants. Tough choice

 

[SharpesTriumph]

they don't have to spend it on a player. There's no rule requiring that. If they are below the floor, then the difference between the payroll and the minimum team salary is distributed to the players on the team

it could be really beneficial to have open cap-space heading into the trade deadline. It would be a way to add assets for next to nothing. And after the trade deadline, that cap-space can be used for bought out players and waived players. Might pick up a real bargain there

and if you still have cap-space, it might be REALLY good leverage during the draft

and of course if you end the season under the minimum, the difference goes to your players as a Christmas bonus in June

Post is almost a month old... But this has changed and is no longer accurate. Minimum team salary is different in the new CBA. All NBA teams have hit the floor for the upcoming year already though.

With the new rules we won't ever see a team start the year below the floor. They will either sign players or take on salary in a trade.

 

[wizenheimer]

Post is almost a month old... But this has changed and is no longer accurate. Minimum team salary is different in the new CBA. All NBA teams have hit the floor for the upcoming year already though.

With the new rules we won't ever see a team start the year below the floor. They will either sign players or take on salary in a trade.

I know and I've 'amended' that notion

the only time teams can use cap-space (under the floor) for taking contracts in trade + incentive assets is the off-season. Teams will only be able have a max of 10% of the salary cap in cap-space during the season. There are penalties now for being under the floor when the season starts. I think we will occasionally see teams giving one year deals to scrubs during training camp

 

[BigGameDamian]

Nurkic & a 2nd to Atlanta for Capela?

 

[KingSpeed]

Not fair to Scoot to give him a team without a center. If we can get Capela or Ayton, great. Otherwise, we need to keep Nurk in my opinion.

 

[riverman]

You need a big guy who can bang with Jokic, Embiid or Wemby. You can't beat any of those teams with tweener centers like Watford or Eubanks. I don't think Nurk is going anywhere

 

[andalusian]

You need a big guy who can bang with Jokic, Embiid or Wemby. You can't beat any of those teams with tweener centers like Watford or Eubanks. I don't think Nurk is going anywhere

The blazers are not contending anytime soon, it's best to get a mobile big that works in billups defensive scheme and not worry about jokic, embiid et al

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

I know and I've 'amended' that notion

the only time teams can use cap-space (under the floor) for taking contracts in trade + incentive assets is the off-season. Teams will only be able have a max of 10% of the salary cap in cap-space during the season. There are penalties now for being under the floor when the season starts. I think we will occasionally see teams giving one year deals to scrubs during training camp

The Brooklyn TPE is such a Nurkic-sized fit! He and Herro would be positives for Bridges as they're not a young, rebuilding team; their youth amounts to Claxton and Clowney ... both of whom I'd prefer as Blazers rather than the Miami guys. I'd take Claxton over a 1st and while his UFA is a concern, he'll have good young players for him to grow with. Whether a Lillard trade is with Miami, Brooklyn, or both, Nurkic to the Nets works, IMHO.

Nurkic as simply gone? Probably. I'd want it to happen during the trade to get it done, but it's not crucial that he's gone. His skill-building has come along and should fit better ball movement. If he's thin-Nurkic, okay. Regardless, this team needs better, athletic BIGs with size/length for effective hedging, rim protection and rebounding.

 

[riverman]

The blazers are not contending anytime soon, it's best to get a mobile big that works in billups defensive scheme and not worry about jokic, embiid et al

I'm not going into the season thinking about not contending...I want them hungry from game one and if they can't win, fine, but I don't think it should be a game plan for a third year to tank. Roster balance is overdue and I don't see Chauncey wanting to lose anymore either. I want to sweep Miami this season

 

[andalusian]

I'm not going into the season thinking about not contending...I want them hungry from game one and if they can't win, fine, but I don't think it should be a game plan for a third year to tank. Roster balance is overdue and I don't see Chauncey wanting to lose anymore either. I want to sweep Miami this season

You can think whatever you want but for the Blazers to succeed long term, they need to prioritize giving the coach the roster that works with his system and develop it rather than waste money / roster spot on a player that does not fit the system in some kind of "hope we shock everyone and contend" kind of decision.

I would rather have the young roster grow in the system that coach wants to play rather than waste time playing in drop coverage because an older center that does not fit the timeline of the team (or the modern NBA) is still around. That's just a waste of time and effort. If the Blazers had Dame and thought they were a move away from contending, sure. Without him, waste.

 

[Tince]

In response to the title, I would push back that Nurk needs to go.

If Cronin can get appropriate value for Nurk, then great. Getting rid of him just to get rid of him would not make much sense at this point.

 

[riverman]

You can think whatever you want but for the Blazers to succeed long term, they need to prioritize giving the coach the roster that works with his system and develop it rather than waste money / roster spot on a player that does not fit the system in some kind of "hope we shock everyone and contend" kind of decision.

I would rather have the young roster grow in the system that coach wants to play rather than waste time playing in drop coverage because an older center that does not fit the timeline of the team (or the modern NBA) is still around. That's just a waste of time and effort. If the Blazers had Dame and thought they were a move away from contending, sure. Without him, waste.

Nurk is not old...and he's very low mileage since he had years off when his leg snapped but it's all good...Chauncey doesn't use much drop coverage with Nurk from what I've seen...the timeline of the team will be extended because of all the rookies but you need balance and you need vets..you can assume that we'll be further aways from playoff noise than I do..it's all good. I don't want the coaching staff or roster to think that way. We can bring in young guys through the G league now as needed but bigs take longer to figure it out so Nurk doesn't have that issue, nor Grant or Thybulle or Ant. I know Scoot fever is around the team but you still need a "team" I still say the old stars are going to be a year older next season and we're going to be younger. Stephen Adams played next to Jah Morant without any issues...same could easily be said of Nurk and Scoot

 

[beast blazer]

The Blazers already lack size. Discarding Nurk for the hell of it doesn't help us unless the point is to try and lose more games. But being terrible isn't necessarily good for the development of Sharpe and Scoot. We'll probably be a lotto team anyway....

 

[Natebishop3]

In response to the title, I would push back that Nurk needs to go.

If Cronin can get appropriate value for Nurk, then great. Getting rid of him just to get rid of him would not make much sense at this point.

What is appropriate value?

 

[Tince]

What is appropriate value?

There are probably 100s of combinations of transactions I would accept in return for Nurk. One type may include a better/equal vet on a better contract. One might include an equal or lesser big who is younger and/or fits the style of play. Another might include draft compensation. Of course, these things can be mixed and matched.

I wouldn't trade Nurk for Duncan Robinson, just to get rid of Nurk though.

 

[riverman]

What is appropriate value?

Brook Lopez would be nice or Stephen Adams or Poeltl..Adams you could probably get...Lopez, doubtful ..what 7ftrs are making 17 million a year?

 

[Natebishop3]

There are probably 100s of combinations of transactions I would accept in return for Nurk. One type may include a better/equal vet on a better contract. One might include an equal or lesser big who is younger and/or fits the style of play. Another might include draft compensation. Of course, these things can be mixed and matched.

I wouldn't trade Nurk for Duncan Robinson, just to get rid of Nurk though.

Brook Lopez would be nice or Stephen Adams or Poeltl..Adams you could probably get...Lopez, doubtful ..what 7ftrs are making 17 million a year?

I think you guys are massively overestimating his value.