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Denny Crane said:
Phil Robertson:

“Women with women. Men with men,” he said at one point (at 18:25 in the video below). “They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions.

“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil.”


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...emerged-video-article-1.1553737#ixzz2ojXGZ3vf

Indefensible.
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Denny Crane said:
Read it again.

Indefensible.

It's not a direct quote of your precious bible verse, it's an abomination designed to say homosexuals are full of murder, envy, hate, etc. And they're murderers.

He left out quite a bit and selectively edited. Like I said.
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ok Vizzini, when exactly did he say that those words were from that passage? when did he say as I quote from this passage...? He never said homosexuals were full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil....

He was talking about sinners..... Sinners are full of murder, envy, strife, hared, etc.

Good God man, stop adding extra words or thoughts that aren't there. You are clearly blind
 
Majorball said:
Inconceivable!
Vizzini: He didn’t fall?! Inconceivable!
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Guess who Vizzini is in this thread Denny?
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
 
Rick2583 said:
This latest news is really going to piss Denny off, after receiving over 250,000 (that's a quarter of a million) signatures on a petition A&E has reinstated Ducks dynasty's patriarch Phil Robertson.

Sorry Denny it's embarrassing enough that only 2-3 posters in this entire thread agreed with you, but now 1/4 of a million others agree with over 90% of the posters in this thread. All I can say is.......OOOUCH!!
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Not to mention the facebook petition that had 1.5Million signers in 24 hours... compare that to the 300,000 who have signed up for the ever shitty idea of obamacare in 3 months... yeah...
 
Denny Crane said:
Seriously, you were shown the smoking gun and ignored it. The bible passage he edited or removed words from his recital. Changed the entire meaning of the text from "there are sinners out there" to "homosexuals are murderers."

Compare for yourself. The bible passage did not say this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...-people-newly-emerged-video-article-1.1553737



How many words did he leave out? I can go count them for you. Omitted for effect: homosexuals are full of murder, etc.

Indefensible.
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And when did he say it was a direct quote from that specific passage????
 
yankeesince59 said:
...you, of all people are in no position to point that out..."paraphrasing" and "twisting" is exactly what you have been doing since the very beginning.


..."people who live in glass houses........", well, you know.
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BINGO
 
Denny Crane said:
Another smoking gun.

So he made up his homophobic rant. It's obvious.
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There are so many flaws with these statements....

No smoking gun anywhere...

He didn't make anything up...

He did piece together parts of passages in which the bible described what a sinner was... which after all was the actual question... he was asked what was a sin... he answered...

No homophobic statement anywhere...

No rant anywhere...

He simply and honestly responded to a question that was asked of him.

it isn't obvious because it isn't there...

you are obviously smoking something highly illegal and mind distorting...
 
Just some photos that capture what the vast majority of Americans feel... Enjoy Vizzini

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Hammerojustice said:
There are so many flaws with these statements....

No smoking gun anywhere...

He didn't make anything up...

He did piece together parts of passages in which the bible described what a sinner was... which after all was the actual question... he was asked what was a sin... he answered...

No homophobic statement anywhere...

No rant anywhere...

He simply and honestly responded to a question that was asked of him.

it isn't obvious because it isn't there...

you are obviously smoking something highly illegal and mind distorting...
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If he's not directly quoting scripture, he's making it up. Or he's doing exactly what I accused him of doing: selectively using bits and pieces of the text to further his homophobic agenda.

I've been polite to you and everyone else in this thread, even though you hurl insults when the facts aren't on your side. Think about that.
 
Denny Crane said:
If he's not directly quoting scripture, he's making it up. Or he's doing exactly what I accused him of doing: selectively using bits and pieces of the text to further his homophobic agenda.

I've been polite to you and everyone else in this thread, even though you hurl insults when the facts aren't on your side. Think about that.
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Denny, you have presented NO FACTS that support you, but rather YOU distort his words and meanings...

You ASSUME because when asked what a sin was and when he answers a number of things including homosexuality, that he is being homophobic. Sorry, he isn't... he was asked what sin was and rattled off a list of different sins... he didn't get them all, but he got a lot of them. he used multiple passages, but they weren't to do anything other than answer a direct question. Everyone sins, EVERYONE... so why should homosexuals take special exception to it?????

He said sinners were homosexuals, those that commit bestiality, those full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. These sinners are insolent, arrogant God-haters. These sinners are heartless. These sinners are faithless. These sinners are senseless. These sinners are truthless. These sinners invent ways of doing evil....

You CONTINUALLY invent ways of putting words and thoughts into his mouth that were not said or implied.

Try again
 
Hammerojustice said:
Denny, you have presented NO FACTS that support you, but rather YOU distort his words and meanings...

You ASSUME because when asked what a sin was and when he answers a number of things including homosexuality, that he is being homophobic. Sorry, he isn't... he was asked what sin was and rattled off a list of different sins... he didn't get them all, but he got a lot of them. he used multiple passages, but they weren't to do anything other than answer a direct question. Everyone sins, EVERYONE... so why should homosexuals take special exception to it?????

He said were homosexuals, those that commit bestiality, those full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. These sinners are insolent, arrogant God-haters. These sinners are heartless. These sinners are faithless. These sinners are senseless. These sinners are truthless. These sinners invent ways of doing evil....

You CONTINUALLY invent ways of putting words and thoughts into his mouth that were not said or implied.

Try again
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Dude,

You aren't quoting him, you're making up what you wanted him to say.

Seriously.
 
Denny Crane said:
Dude,

You aren't quoting him, you're making up what you wanted him to say.

Seriously.
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No, I am saying what he was trying to say... you expect a redneck to be eloquent????

And to be completely honest, you are making up far more than I am... FAR MORE!

I know and am friends with quite a few rednecks, so I kinda know the mentality... you, I HIGHLY doubt it...
 
In any case, I have proudly ordered mine and will wear it proudly!

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This is what he said. Word for word.


“Women with women. Men with men,” he said at one point (at 18:25 in the video below). “They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions.

“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil.”
 
Denny Crane said:
This is what he said. Word for word.


“Women with women. Men with men,” he said at one point (at 18:25 in the video below). “They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions.

“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil.”
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And you know what the "They're" is referring to cause you are omnipotent???

try again
 
The "redneck" has a masters degree in education.

LOL
 
Hammerojustice said:
And you know what the "They're" is referring to cause you are omnipotent???

try again
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"They" is "women with women, men with men."

He said so.

Plain as day. Not in some redneck dialect.

Or maybe he was quoting from the book of jim-bob.

“Women with women. Men with men,” he said at one point (at 18:25 in the video below). “They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions.

“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil.”
 
Denny Crane said:
"They" is "women with women, men with men."

He said so.

Plain as day. Not in some redneck dialect.

Or maybe he was quoting from the book of jim-bob.

“Women with women. Men with men,” he said at one point (at 18:25 in the video below). “They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions.

“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil.”
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and yet you conveniently leave out what was being talked about before this... CONTEXT... he did nothing wrong and you CONTINUALLY fail to come close to showing he did
 
From the GQ article, direct quote:

Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.
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Bold is his own words. It doesn't say that in the Bible.

Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.
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Homosexual offenders. That's not in the Bible verse either. It's his own invective.
 
Hammerojustice said:
and yet you conveniently leave out what was being talked about before this... CONTEXT... he did nothing wrong and you CONTINUALLY fail to come close to showing he did
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The video is there. I watched it. Did you?
 
Denny,

You will not convince me Phil Robertson did one thing wrong. In fact, he is to be applauded for publicly stating that homosexuality was a sin. I applaud him. He is a man of honor.

How you can belittle him, I'll never know
 
You want context, here you go.

"First they say, 'There is no God. Get him out of your mind,'" he said in a rambling speech. "Then they bow down to birds, animals and reptiles, and each other. And the first thing you see coming out of them is gross sexual immorality. They will dishonor their bodies with one another, degrade each other. Uh, is that going on in the United States of America? Look around. God's not there... And boy is there some immorality going on around here. Does it get worse?"

"Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions," Robertson continued. "They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil. That's what you have 235 years, roughly, after your forefathers founded the country. So what are you gonna do Pennsylvania? Just run with them? You're doing to die. Don't forget that."
 
Hammerojustice said:
Denny,

You will not convince me Phil Robertson did one thing wrong. In fact, he is to be applauded for publicly stating that homosexuality was a sin. I applaud him. He is a man of honor.

How you can belittle him, I'll never know
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I'd have been fine with it if he said "homosexuality and homosexual acts are a sin."

He didn't say that.
 
Denny Crane said:
You want context, here you go.

"First they say, 'There is no God. Get him out of your mind,'" he said in a rambling speech. "Then they bow down to birds, animals and reptiles, and each other. And the first thing you see coming out of them is gross sexual immorality. They will dishonor their bodies with one another, degrade each other. Uh, is that going on in the United States of America? Look around. God's not there... And boy is there some immorality going on around here. Does it get worse?"

"Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions," Robertson continued. "They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil. That's what you have 235 years, roughly, after your forefathers founded the country. So what are you gonna do Pennsylvania? Just run with them? You're doing to die. Don't forget that."
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Again, you COMPLETELY and UTTERLY fail to explain anywhere that he was ONLY talking about homosexuals at any point in that video (which wasn't the interview we were talking about) or in the interview itself...

Please

I'll wait...
 
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