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Trail Blazers ‏@pdxtrailblazers 2m
.@RealStevenAdams knows its all about defense #RipCityDraft #Pitt
 
Trail Blazers ‏@pdxtrailblazers 1m
Gobert says he's at 237 lbs right now but expects to be up to 250 by the time October rolls around #RipCityDraft
 
Boise Blazer said:
Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 47s
#Blazers F Nicolas Batum sitting next to owner Paul Allen. Batum here to support his guy Rudy Gobert.
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Glad to see they are giving these guys a good look. I still hope they could pick up an extra pick to get them later in the draft.
 
Boise Blazer said:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog...5/2013-nba-draft-ranking-prospects-draft-tier

Insider anyone?
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Nobody in tiers 1 and 2...

Tier 3
Players:
Anthony Bennett
Alex Len
Ben McLemore
Nerlens Noel
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter Jr.
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Tier 4
Players:
Steven Adams
Trey Burke
Michael Carter-Williams
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
C.J. McCollum
Cody Zeller
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Tier 5
Players:
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Reggie Bullock
Isaiah Canaan
Allen Crabbe
Gorgui Dieng
Jamaal Franklin
Rudy Gobert
Archie Goodwin
Erick Green
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Pierre Jackson
Sergey Karasev
Shane Larkin
Ricardo Ledo
C.J. Leslie
Tony Mitchell
Shabazz Muhammad
Mike Muscala
Lucas Nogueira
Kelly Olynyk
Mason Plumlee
Glen Rice Jr.
Dennis Schroeder
Tony Snell
Jeff Withey
Nate Wolters
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Tier 6
Players:
Alex Abrines
Lorenzo Brown
Jackie Carmichael
James Ennis
Colton Iverson
Livio Jean-Charles
Grant Jerrett
Myck Kabongo
Ray McCallum
Nemanja Nedovic
Phil Pressey
Andre Roberson
B.J. Young
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Trail Blazers ‏@pdxtrailblazers 3m
Nicolas Batum addresses the media after Rudy Gobert's workout #RipCityDraft
 
Candace Buckner ‏@blazerbanter 2m
As @Bigredrig05 has been telling me, Steven Adams is quite the cheeky guy. Doesn't think his personality is special, just him being "Kiwi"
 
Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 4m
Rudy Gobert says he relishes blocking shots. Says he believes he's the best defensive big man in this draft class and Nicolas Batum agrees.
 
Boise Blazer said:
Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 4m
Rudy Gobert says he relishes blocking shots. Says he believes he's the best defensive big man in this draft class and Nicolas Batum agrees.
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1.9 blocks in 22 min/game against weak competition is not stellar. He may be at some point, but being a good defender involves legs and footwork too.
 
Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 6m
Asked Nic if Gobert good pick at 10: He can be, yeah. We don't have a lot of guys like that in basketball. That tall and can protect the rim

Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 1m
Gobert says he's hearing he could be drafted anywhere 7-21. He believes he can contribute immediately but says starting might take a season.
 
Reep said:
If you believe that then you have to take Adams, right?

I'm not sure I believe it though.
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It's specifically off of how he defines his tiers.
1:
This category is usually reserved for guys who are surefire All-Stars and franchise players. Since 2009, only Blake Griffin, John Wall and Anthony Davis have been ranked in this slot. This year, there just isn't anyone who looks like a "surefire" anything.
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2:
Tier 2 is reserved for players who are projected as potential All-Stars by scouts. They are typical high lottery picks in a normal draft. Last year, Bradley Beal, Harrison Barnes and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist all got the nod as Tier 2 players. In 2011, Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams were in this tier.

This year, I couldn't get a majority of teams to project anyone in this draft as a potential All-Star. Nerlens Noel, Ben McLemore and Anthony Bennett all got a vote or two from teams that had them in Tier 2, but the overwhelming majority of teams I talked to had these players ranked as Tier 3 prospects. This is the first draft tiers column I've ever done where no players are ranked in Tier 2.
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I suspect that when all is said and done there'll be a small handful of players from this draft that'll end up being Tier 2 players. And a significantly larger handful of players who'll be better than Derrick Williams (and Beal).
 
blue9 said:
I suspect that when all is said and done there'll be a small handful of players from this draft that'll end up being Tier 2 players. And a significantly larger handful of players who'll be better than Derrick Williams (and Beal).
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I agree. Because of next years draft and the bad rap this one got there will be a few players that "surprise" everyone.
 
God damn, that really shows how awful the "tiers" system is at accurately ranking prospects. Griffin/Wall/Davis as the only tier 1 guys in the past four years, and a bunch of solid but not stellar guys in tier 2 last year. By those examples, tier 1 looks to be no better than tier 2, and tier 3 probably has the most success stories.
 
handiman said:
God damn, that really shows how awful the "tiers" system is at accurately ranking prospects. Griffin/Wall/Davis as the only tier 1 guys in the past four years, and a bunch of solid but not stellar guys in tier 2 last year. By those examples, tier 1 looks to be no better than tier 2, and tier 3 probably has the most success stories.
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I think its funny Kyrie Irving wasn't a tier 1 player, somehow.
 
Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 53s
Word is when Steven Adams arrives in town for workouts the night before, he calls the team to request they open the gym to get shots up.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
I think its funny Kyrie Irving wasn't a tier 1 player, somehow.
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I think at the time of the draft, there were some that still had questions/concerns about him. He'd only played like 10 games at Duke.
 
Tom Withers ‏@twithersAP 1m
#Cavaliers have received some calls about No. 1 pick. Nothing in works at this point. Teams still doing exploratory work on players
 
I really hope we get the DAL pick so we can take two guys. Despite no "star talent" it sounds like this draft is indeed deep with meaningful players. I'd like to see us grab a SG (Shabazz) and a C (Dieng/Adams/Gobert...assuming Len isn't available).
 
blue9 said:
I really hope we get the DAL pick so we can take two guys. Despite no "star talent" it sounds like this draft is indeed deep with meaningful players. I'd like to see us grab a SG (Shabazz) and a C (Dieng/Adams/Gobert...assuming Len isn't available).
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Doing so would reduce cap space, but I wouldn't mind seeing a combination of Pope/Shabazz at 10 and Adams/Gobert/Dieng at 13. I just think there are too many others that are also going after that pick--and maybe allowing Dallas to trade down and still get someone they want.
 
I understand that it'll reduce our cap space. I'm of the opinion that there isn't a FA worth using our cap space on - it's best used in trades or on draft picks. And as long as we preserve some amount of space for a lopsided (albeit, less lopsided) trade then I'm fine using the majority of it on obtaining additional draft picks. I'm not sure what Shawn Marion makes (and haven't bothered to look...maybe I should), but I'm assuming we'd still have a few million remaining after taking his and the #13 pick into consideration. And with Marion's contract expiring that either gives us an expiring contract trade chip at the deadline, or helps preserve cap space for next summer.
 
Sounds like CLE has a deal with the Mavs for that pick (#19/#13 swap?) -- The Cavs are targeting Karasev.

Btw, Haynes thinks Ledo has a real shot to be taken with the #10?
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Sounds like CLE has a deal with the Mavs for that pick (#19/#13 swap?) -- The Cavs are targeting Karasev.

Btw, Haynes thinks Ledo has a real shot to be taken with the #10?
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He has really shot up draft boards. He has been killing people in workouts, from what I've heard. When he was predicted to be undrafted, I thought he was a lotto talent but there were so many questions with him not playing last year and maturity issues that I thought his ceiling was early second round. Didn't think anyone would draft him in the 1st with him not playing. Guy has so much talent, though.
 
Ricky Ledo has Barkley's eyes and Jamie Foxx's mouth:

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Steven Adams is a good-looking kid. I'm assuming he's at least part Maori.
 
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