[ official ] 2016 summer moves

[BonesJones]

Heavily incentive based two year contract

"If both shoulders stay in their sockets for a 2 year streak, you get a $10M bonus"

 

[TBpup]

"If both shoulders stay in their sockets for a 2 year streak, you get a $10M bonus"

"Where do I sign?" ~Meyers Leonard

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

"If both shoulders stay in their sockets for a 2 year streak, you get a $10M bonus"

And knees

 

[Pinwheel1]

Atlanta got dominated by Cleveland with him, while Portland competed against Golden State without him. That's why he'd come here.

Also, Toronto doesn't have the cap space to sign him even if Derozen doesn't return. Plus, Toronto already has a good Center in Valenciusencounious.

So how much would they pay to keep Biyombo, or is he moving on?

 

[BonesJones]

So how much would they pay to keep Biyombo, or is he moving on?

I think they'll go over the cap to resign Derozen, then use their bird rights on him to resign him

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Atlanta got dominated by Cleveland with him, while Portland competed against Golden State without him. That's why he'd come here.

Also, Toronto doesn't have the cap space to sign him even if Derozen doesn't return. Plus, Toronto already has a good Center in Valenciusencounious.

"I’ve set up here with my family. We all live here. We live here in the summer. We live here year-round. I’m very grateful for all the people here. They have taken me in from the very first day, even though I was a Gator. They loved me. I really love the city." - al horford

That doesnt sound like a guy that wants to leave. Horford hasnt rubbed me as a prima donna like aldridge was.

Toronto can manuever to bring him on even with keeping derozan, his cap hold isnt going to be that large. Valanciunas and lowry arent paid that much.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think they'll go over the cap to resign Derozen, then use their bird rights on him to resign him

I don't think they have his bird rights:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--bismack-biyombo-contract-074216426.html

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I think they'll go over the cap to resign Derozen, then use their bird rights on him to resign him

Biyombo and Valanciunas both making big bucks could be a problem

 

[BonesJones]

I don't think they have his bird rights:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--bismack-biyombo-contract-074216426.html

Biyombo and Valanciunas both making big bucks could be a problem

Well then they probably won't be able to if they keep Derozen. They'll likely draft Poeltl or Ellenson with their lotto pick

 

[Pinwheel1]

Well then they probably won't be able to if they keep Derozen. They'll likely draft Poeltl or Ellenson with their lotto pick

Maybe we offer him day 1, while they are still waiting to see what Derozan decides. Not as good as Whiteside or Horford, but probably easier to get. Should we make him feel like he is our number one priority? Or do we take a chance and go for a home run instead ?

 

[42N8Bounce]

Assuming the CAP will be at $92M, and counting DeRozen's cap hold, TOR has approximately $7M of cap space to offer Biyombo a contract.

Note: DeRozen's CAP hold is $15M (150% of previous salary). This would kick in if he does not pick up his player option at $10M.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Watching Toronto play and then looking at the stats, I'm realizing that Terrence Ross is essentially the same player as Allen Crabbe. Ross got a 3 year 31.5 million dollar extension. I guess I wouldn't mind giving Crabbe around that much.

 

[42N8Bounce]

Good input from Eric Pincus -

"Ezeli is restricted - so Warriors have a say - Biyombo in control of his destiny - can go/stay wherever he wants"

 

[MightyMouseOps1]

Watching Toronto play and then looking at the stats, I'm realizing that Terrence Ross is essentially the same player as Allen Crabbe. Ross got a 3 year 31.5 million dollar extension. I guess I wouldn't mind giving Crabbe around that much.

Terrance Ross is more like JR Smith IMO. He takes poor contested shots frequently. Crabbe plays within the flow of the offense.

 

[dviss1]

Watching Toronto play and then looking at the stats, I'm realizing that Terrence Ross is essentially the same player as Allen Crabbe. Ross got a 3 year 31.5 million dollar extension. I guess I wouldn't mind giving Crabbe around that much.

Bro T- Ross jumps outta the GYM. Crabbe? Yeah no...

But money wise you're correct.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Bro T- Ross jumps outta the GYM. Crabbe? Yeah no...

But money wise you're correct.

He may jump higher but he doesn't seem to do that much with his athleticism. Their stats are remarkably similar across the board. On a side note, I actually played a spring league game against Ross once, and a couple of my friends lost to him in the Street Jam dunk contest about 6 years ago.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Terrance Ross is more like JR Smith IMO. He takes poor contested shots frequently. Crabbe plays within the flow of the offense.

If he takes a lot more contested shots that makes his percentages more impressive, they are only very slightly lower than Crabbe's.

 

[dviss1]

He may jump higher but he doesn't seem to do that much with his athleticism. Their stats are remarkably similar across the board. On a side note, I actually played a spring league game against Ross once, and a couple of my friends lost to him in the Street Jam dunk contest about 6 years ago.

Who has more dunks? That would indicate who's using there athleticism more. Stats don't take a true picture of a player's play style. After reffing Ross and following his career after graduating from Jeff, IMHO his style of play doesn't resemble Crabbe's.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Bro T- Ross jumps outta the GYM. Crabbe? Yeah no...

But money wise you're correct.

37.5 vertical compared to 36. It's not like Crabbe is that far off

 

[MightyMouseOps1]

If he takes a lot more contested shots that makes his percentages more impressive, they are only very slightly lower than Crabbe's.

Not impressive when he is shooting bricks leading to fast breaks. Ross basketball IQ is low that is why he takes so many terrible shots.

 

[Scalma]

If Portland is actually interested, I agree that Howard is the most likely. Whiteside likes his life in Miami and I'm not sure he's all about winning. "Just trying to get my 2k rating up." Yeah that doesn't sound like a guy that's chasing a ring. Howard's best, and most realistic, fit is in Portland. Biggest question is whether or not Olshey is interested

 

[Scalma]

And I doubt any team offers Howard the max. I mean come on. Really? $30M? Nah

 

[Natebishop3]

And I doubt any team offers Howard the max. I mean come on. Really? $30M? Nah

Some stupid team like the Knicks would do it.

 

[Scalma]

Some stupid team like the Knicks would do it.

Well then we'll know Howard is only after the money, which is his right, but not someone I'd want anyway.

 

[illmatic99]

Keep an eye on MIA this offseason.

They have Wade, Deng, Whiteside all as unrestricted free agents and would have to use their capspace to sign them. They don't have that capspace unless they can somehow get rid of McBob and Bosh, etc.

I'd go after Deng HARD as well as Whiteside.

A Dame/CJ/Aminu/Deng/Whiteside lineup with a decent bench can win you 55-60 games if healthy.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Who has more dunks? That would indicate who's using there athleticism more. Stats don't take a true picture of a player's play style. After reffing Ross and following his career after graduating from Jeff, IMHO his style of play doesn't resemble Crabbe's.

I admit I don't watch Ross play very much, is he dunking in traffic often or something? Crabbe actually dunks quite a bit on fast breaks even though he doesn't get up super high.

 

[Hobbesarable]

I admit I don't watch Ross play very much, is he dunking in traffic often or something? Crabbe actually dunks quite a bit on fast breaks even though he doesn't get up super high.

Ross is 26/26 dunks on the year (regular season and playoffs) while Crabbe was 12/14.

Terrence Ross 2015-16 Shooting Chart

Allen Crabbe 2015-16 Shooting Chart

 

[dviss1]

37.5 vertical compared to 36. It's not like Crabbe is that far off

Dame's vertical is on par with Westbrook's but who is the consensus pick for most athletic between the two? Same situation with Crabbe and Ross. Did you see Ross in the dunk contest? He's MUCH more athletic than Crabbe.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Bro T- Ross jumps outta the GYM. Crabbe? Yeah no...

But money wise you're correct.

Jumping isn't a stat though and we're talking about stats here.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Dame's vertical is on par with Westbrook's but who is the consensus pick for most athletic between the two? Same situation with Crabbe and Ross. Did you see Ross in the dunk contest? He's MUCH more athletic than Crabbe.

Maybe?