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It's been pretty obvious for awhile now but Woj's "source" within the Blazers is Neil himself.

Yes, the article is completely sympathetic to the position in which Olshey now finds himself. By lowering our expectations, the article prepares us for an Olshey failure at the trade deadline.
 
That’s not the ‘good’ Zeller right? It was rumored Milwaukee was in the market for a big man. That can’t be what they settled for, right?!
 
That’s not the ‘good’ Zeller right? It was rumored Milwaukee was in the market for a big man. That can’t be what they settled for, right?!
Tyler Zeller is Cody’s older bro. Tyler came in the league at the same times as Myers did IIRC. But what @yuyuza1 said.....
 
Pistons had 36 assists... Blazers only 18, and that’s a high total for them. Seriously, we could have easily had Blake Griffin if we offer CJ... Blake was exactly what this team needed. This clown Olshey is happy being mediocre and taking the fans money.
 
Pistons had 36 assists... Blazers only 18, and that’s a high total for them. Seriously, we could have easily had Blake Griffin if we offer CJ... Blake was exactly what this team needed. This clown Olshey is happy being mediocre and taking the fans money.

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Pistons had 36 assists... Blazers only 18, and that’s a high total for them. Seriously, we could have easily had Blake Griffin if we offer CJ... Blake was exactly what this team needed. This clown Olshey is happy being mediocre and taking the fans money.
How does swapping CJ for Griffin take us to another level? Our role players are the problem, and in this scenario, we don't change any of them...
 
Pistons had 36 assists... Blazers only 18, and that’s a high total for them. Seriously, we could have easily had Blake Griffin if we offer CJ... Blake was exactly what this team needed. This clown Olshey is happy being mediocre and taking the fans money.
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How does swapping CJ for Griffin take us to another level? Our role players are the problem, and in this scenario, we don't change any of them...
Role players are the secondary issue... how can you not see Dame and CJ don’t fit together. You like watching 2 guards play iso ball and take half the teams shots??? Blake Griffin is basically another PG on the court
 
Role players are the secondary issue... how can you not see Dame and CJ don’t fit together. You like watching 2 guards play iso ball and take half the teams shots??? Blake Griffin is basically another PG on the court

Anyone who puts CJ in the same box as Dame shouldn’t really be taken seriously.
 
Rodney Hood had 30 pts in 27 mins of play tonight... just sayin.
 
Anyone who puts CJ in the same box as Dame shouldn’t really be taken seriously.

Not in the same box....but too similar when they are both undersized. Both ball dominant and neither a very good defender.
 


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I read that earlier as well. I have no idea why Neil wouldn’t at least engage in talks. He probably has but I’d rather build an even more irrational hatred for him.

He would open up sooo much spacing for us. There’s a difference between a guy that can shoot and a shooter, Hood is a shooter and I mean that in a good way.
 
Not in the same box....but too similar when they are both undersized. Both ball dominant and neither a very good defender.

Lillard has never been ball dominate and unwilling to pass the ball his entire career.
Lillard 17-18 is far from a bad defender, he's an average defender at worse this year.
 
Lillard has never been ball dominate and unwilling to pass the ball his entire career.
Lillard 17-18 is far from a bad defender, he's an average defender at worse this year.

Considering what he has around him he should be more selfish, not less. I don’t think I ever come away from a game thinking wow dame played selfish. CJ? Pretty much every game.
 
I read that earlier as well. I have no idea why Neil wouldn’t at least engage in talks. He probably has but I’d rather build an even more irrational hatred for him.

He would open up sooo much spacing for us. There’s a difference between a guy that can shoot and a shooter, Hood is a shooter and I mean that in a good way.

With CJ as our two, I think we should be looking for someone with a little more size (either strength or length) than Hood to play SF.
 
Yeah, no.

Lillard isn’t undersized, nor ball dominant (although he’s a point guard, so the ball SHOULD be in his hands) nor a bad defender, but whatever your agenda says.

Now I could have been more specific in say that Lillard/CJ together are undersized. Dame is a better defender this year but that still doesn't make him very good in my opinion and part of that increase in defensive rating is due to him playing with Nurk behind him all season. Calm down with the agenda nonsense. Damn, anyone that has a different opinion or perspective anymore is a hater or has an agenda.
 
With CJ as our two, I think we should be looking for someone with a little more size (either strength or length) than Hood to play SF.

Ideally, you’re probably right. But he’s still an improvement in that area over what we currently have at the 3 since Stotts doesn’t play Aminu. 6’8 with a 6’9 wingspan isn’t great but not bad. His ability to shoot the ball and crazy flashes of athleticism is what makes me intrigued.

I just think he’s better than any forward we currently have on the roster and if he can be had for a deal built around Napier then we should do it.
 
Now I could have been more specific in say that Lillard/CJ together are undersized. Dame is a better defender this year but that still doesn't make him very good in my opinion and part of that increase in defensive rating is due to him playing with Nurk behind him all season. Calm down with the agenda nonsense. Damn, anyone that has a different opinion or perspective anymore is a hater or has an agenda.

You’ve been pushing the same narrative about Dame for years, even when it wasn’t true. That sounds like an agenda to me.
 
Per ESPN Article:

Some folks have pitched deals centered around C.J. McCollum. Portland continues to reject any inquires on McCollum and Damian Lillard, sources say. A package of Kevin Love and the Nets pick would be too much for Cleveland; swapping Love for McCollum doesn't really move the needle anyway. A package centered around Tristan Thompson and the Nets pick may not be enough for Portland.
 
You’ve been pushing the same narrative about Dame for years, even when it wasn’t true. That sounds like an agenda to me.

Uh....he hasn't been a very good defender in his career. He is a little better this season as mentioned. Not sure what narrative you are referring to and doubtful any single post takes everything into account. But you're free to your opinion....and I won't call it an agenda.
 
Now I could have been more specific in say that Lillard/CJ together are undersized. Dame is a better defender this year but that still doesn't make him very good in my opinion and part of that increase in defensive rating is due to him playing with Nurk behind him all season. Calm down with the agenda nonsense. Damn, anyone that has a different opinion or perspective anymore is a hater or has an agenda.
Personally, I think it's when the opinions come out with things that are unsubstantiated, that you get the more visceral reaction (from some). For instance, I understand what you mean with the "undersized backcourt" argument, but one could (rightly) say: "Dame Lillard is the same size (6'3", 195) as Russell Westbrook (6'3", 200 who has never been called undersized) and Kyrie Irving, bigger than CP3, Kyle Lowry, Steph and Derrick Rose, and among elite PGs is only smaller than Wall (by 1 inch). Average PG height is 6'2. STFU with the 'Dame is undersized' agenda." One could also just post a link and say "Dame isn't undersized, see list below." Or post articles from NBC, CBS, ESPN and RipCityProject about how Dame's defense is much better than last year and (varying degrees).

As an aside, I'd say that my experience of being contrarian is that you usually need to have your "proof"/explanations more dialed in when contrarian, to not be considered a "h8er/troll". For instance, @Mediocre Man gets a lot of shit for his take on Syracuse players. However, if you (as I've done) bring up a list of Orangemen and their metrics against draft slot, they consistently and heavily underperform. If that was brought up and pointed out, rather than the blanket "Syracuse players suck, don't draft them" it would almost immediately a) validate the contrarian opinion and b) shut down those saying it's just agenda hatred. Maybe.
 
Personally, I think it's when the opinions come out with things that are unsubstantiated, that you get the more visceral reaction (from some). For instance, I understand what you mean with the "undersized backcourt" argument, but one could (rightly) say: "Dame Lillard is the same size (6'3", 195) as Russell Westbrook (6'3", 200 who has never been called undersized) and Kyrie Irving, bigger than CP3, Kyle Lowry, Steph and Derrick Rose, and among elite PGs is only smaller than Wall (by 1 inch). Average PG height is 6'2. STFU with the 'Dame is undersized' agenda." One could also just post a link and say "Dame isn't undersized, see list below." Or post articles from NBC, CBS, ESPN and RipCityProject about how Dame's defense is much better than last year and (varying degrees).

As an aside, I'd say that my experience of being contrarian is that you usually need to have your "proof"/explanations more dialed in when contrarian, to not be considered a "h8er/troll". For instance, @Mediocre Man gets a lot of shit for his take on Syracuse players. However, if you (as I've done) bring up a list of Orangemen and their metrics against draft slot, they consistently and heavily underperform. If that was brought up and pointed out, rather than the blanket "Syracuse players suck, don't draft them" it would almost immediately a) validate the contrarian opinion and b) shut down those saying it's just agenda hatred. Maybe.

Dame is listed at 6'3" but if you've stood next to him, that is quite generous. Also, as athletic as Dame is, Westbrook is on the freakish end of athletic which make up for any lack of size which at a more legit 6'3", doesn't really exist. I get what you are saying but at the same time, people can't agree to disagree anymore or allow seemingly any opinion that isn't in agreement with theirs.

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I get what you are saying but at the same time, people can't agree to disagree anymore or allow seemingly any opinion that isn't in agreement with theirs.

But heights not really a differing opinion, right? I mean, guys get officially measured. I just think it seems lazy, personally, to say undersized backcourt instead of undersized SG.
 
But heights not really a differing opinion, right? I mean, guys get officially measured. I just think it seems lazy, personally, to say undersized backcourt instead of undersized SG.

See the picture above. Both are listed at 6'3". Regardless, I clarified to undersized back court for those seemingly so up in arms.
 
I read that earlier as well. I have no idea why Neil wouldn’t at least engage in talks. He probably has but I’d rather build an even more irrational hatred for him.

He would open up sooo much spacing for us. There’s a difference between a guy that can shoot and a shooter, Hood is a shooter and I mean that in a good way.

I find it funny that people are posting that CJ is too ball dominant while there are others posting about wanting Rodney Hood. CJ this year has double the assists per game and a lower usage rate. Hood is a big time chucker and is also known for having very poor defense.
 

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