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Vassell is going to struggle to hit 3s at the NBA level. His shot mechanics dont translate well to a deeper arc. Defensively, he's frail and doesnt have the tools to be a lockdown on-ball defender. I dont think he's a lottery talent, to be honest.
 
Friendly reminder that both Kawhi and Giannis were draft 15th. Plenty of talent has been drafted in our range.
 
My choice is Williams but way mocks are going he will probably be gone. Now Bey I am not sold on him from the defense side. But it comes down to pick the best available player or trade it.
 
Watching Jerami Grant, I think Patrick Williams could easily become that type of contributor. Williams' athleticism, though, makes his ceiling so much higher; he could turn into a great two-way player. Seems unlikely he'd fall to 16, but the mocks have those guys between like 9-22 slotted all over the place.
 


If we had the #1 pick, whom would you hope we picked? I'm torn. I don't like Edwards (sounds very Dion Waiters-ish) and James Wiseman has a lot of red flags. Meanwhile, I'm not as down on Lamelo as most people seem to be, but he is very inefficient (and doesn't seem to share his brother's fondness for defense). And after that, it's kind of a crapshoot. I guess I'd go for Onyeka Okongwu (which is a risk for any GM, in case Wiseman is obviously better) or possibly Avdija (even though I don't think he'll be remotely as good as Luka).
 
Rastapopoulos said:


If we had the #1 pick, whom would you hope we picked? I'm torn. I don't like Edwards (sounds very Dion Waiters-ish) and James Wiseman has a lot of red flags. Meanwhile, I'm not as down on Lamelo as most people seem to be, but he is very inefficient (and doesn't seem to share his brother's fondness for defense). And after that, it's kind of a crapshoot. I guess I'd go for Onyeka Okongwu (which is a risk for any GM, in case Wiseman is obviously better) or possibly Avdija (even though I don't think he'll be remotely as good as Luka).
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Gun to my head, I would pick Okongwu. Given the choice I would trade the pick. It's not that there is no talent out there - but the number of red flags flying over this bunch is beyond alarming!
 
Rastapopoulos said:


If we had the #1 pick, whom would you hope we picked? I'm torn. I don't like Edwards (sounds very Dion Waiters-ish) and James Wiseman has a lot of red flags. Meanwhile, I'm not as down on Lamelo as most people seem to be, but he is very inefficient (and doesn't seem to share his brother's fondness for defense). And after that, it's kind of a crapshoot. I guess I'd go for Onyeka Okongwu (which is a risk for any GM, in case Wiseman is obviously better) or possibly Avdija (even though I don't think he'll be remotely as good as Luka).
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Not a year I'd want the first pick, because I think the difference in value in the first four and maybe the first eight is so thin.

I'd probably go Edwards because I think he's probably going to be a slightly better Tyreke Evans, a power guard with a lot of upside. On pure talent, there's not a lot difference between him and Wiseman, IMO, but guards control so much of the way the game is played now. Feel free to archive this is Wiseman finds his motivation and turns out to be the second coming of Anthony Davis.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If we had the #1 pick, whom would you hope we picked?
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I think it's wide open this year. Here are my top 5:
1. Onyeka Okongwu
2. Obi Toppin
3. James Wiseman
4. LaMelo Ball
5. Vernon Carey

A few wildcards: Reggie Perry, Isaac Okoro, and Zeke Nnaji.

I certainly wouldn't want the #1 pick this year. I think it's going to be another year like the 2013 draft. Heck, in 2013, the top 5 players by WS were #15 Giannis Antetokounmpo, #27 Rudy Gobert, #12 Steven Adams, #22 Mason Plumlee, and #10 CJ McCollum. Who's the Anthony Bennett in this draft?

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42N8Bounce said:
I think it's wide open this year. Here are my top 5:
1. Onyeka Okongwu
2. Obi Toppin
3. James Wiseman
4. LaMelo Ball
5. Vernon Carey

A few wildcards: Reggie Perry, Isaac Okoro, and Zeke Nnaji.

I certainly wouldn't want the #1 pick this year. I think it's going to be another year like the 2013 draft. Heck, in 2013, the top 5 players by WS were #15 Giannis Antetokounmpo, #27 Rudy Gobert, #12 Steven Adams, #22 Mason Plumlee, and #10 CJ McCollum. Who's the Anthony Bennett in this draft?

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Vernon Carey? Why?

And where's Anthony Edwards?
 
BonesJones said:
Vernon Carey? Why?

And where's Anthony Edwards?
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I don't watch a lot of college ball, but I do like to analyze the stats.

Vernon Carey
Age 19. 6'10", 270lbs. Duke (0.806 w/l).
At only 24.9 min/game - 17.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.6 bpg, 57.7% fg, 38.1% 3fg (0.3/0.7)
#20 NCAA Field Goal Percentage
#19 NCAA Double-Doubles
#2 NCAA WinShare/40
#9 NCAA Box +/-
2020 Consensus All-America 2nd team
That's the complete package with good upside and minimal risk. He's produced.

I'm not sold on Anthony Edwards. Of course he's still young and may develop into a solid player, but his stats don't impress me much. Georgia only won half their games. He shot 40.2% fg, and 29.4% from 3. I'd look at him in the 6-12 range.
 
42N8Bounce said:
I don't watch a lot of college ball, but I do like to analyze the stats.

Vernon Carey
Age 19. 6'10", 270lbs. Duke (0.806 w/l).
At only 24.9 min/game - 17.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.6 bpg, 57.7% fg, 38.1% 3fg (0.3/0.7)
#20 NCAA Field Goal Percentage
#19 NCAA Double-Doubles
#2 NCAA WinShare/40
#9 NCAA Box +/-
2020 Consensus All-America 2nd team
That's the complete package with good upside and minimal risk. He's produced.

I'm not sold on Anthony Edwards. Of course he's still young and may develop into a solid player, but his stats don't impress me much. Georgia only won half their games. He shot 40.2% fg, and 29.4% from 3. I'd look at him in the 6-12 range.
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I like Vernon Carey too. He’s more of a classic throwback big man who love to use his size. He got a little bit of a shooting potential too. But since he’s a throwback big man, in order for him to thrive in the nba he need high IQ on both side of the ball. He need to be able to pass the ball. Look at Jokic, Nurkic, and Nikola Vucevic, they’re all throwback big man who has been able to thrive in the modern era due to their ability to pass the ball. So with that being said Carey could be a solid big man in the nba, possibly a starter but he’s not worth the 1st pick
 
42N8Bounce said:
I don't watch a lot of college ball, but I do like to analyze the stats.

Vernon Carey
Age 19. 6'10", 270lbs. Duke (0.806 w/l).
At only 24.9 min/game - 17.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.6 bpg, 57.7% fg, 38.1% 3fg (0.3/0.7)
#20 NCAA Field Goal Percentage
#19 NCAA Double-Doubles
#2 NCAA WinShare/40
#9 NCAA Box +/-
2020 Consensus All-America 2nd team
That's the complete package with good upside and minimal risk. He's produced.

I'm not sold on Anthony Edwards. Of course he's still young and may develop into a solid player, but his stats don't impress me much. Georgia only won half their games. He shot 40.2% fg, and 29.4% from 3. I'd look at him in the 6-12 range.
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The problem with Carey is his game doesnt translate well from college to the pros. He's not going to be able to do what he did in college at the NBA level. Swanigan's stats popped but that's an example of a player who's game didnt translate well.

Edward's issue was poor shot selection and not having any help. His stock is high because he's upside is enormous.
 


So many key guys missing. I get it with the top dudes, but even guys projected in our range are missing. Especially ones I like such as Bey, Nesmith, etc. Wonder if they have promises already.

Wouldn't surprise me if Lamelo fell like a rock.
 
Hoopguru said:
Saddiq Bey....hope he drops to 16? Id even trade up to get him after watching Miami and the shooters they have, we need a wing that can flat fill it up.
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I don't really think that's what Bey is, though. Bey isn't this lights-out shooter. He's a good shooter. He's good at almost everything but great at nothing and while he's polished he's pretty much a finished product. I think of him more as a Spurs type role player than what has the Heat where they are today.
 
PCmor7 said:
Wouldn't surprise me. Maledon wouldn't surprise me, either.
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I don't really mind RJ if they determine he's BPA, although I do think Nesmith and Bey are better fits both positionally and skill wise.

Sorta frail guard under 6'5 who needs the ball in his hands to be effective, highly touted HS prospect, not that great of a defender. Sounds familiar.
 
PCmor7 said:
I don't really think that's what Bey is, though. Bey isn't this lights-out shooter. He's a good shooter. He's good at almost everything but great at nothing and while he's polished he's pretty much a finished product. I think of him more as a Spurs type role player than what has the Heat where they are today.
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He's a very good 3 point shooter and a solid defender? Isn't that what we need?
 
PCmor7 said:
I don't really think that's what Bey is, though. Bey isn't this lights-out shooter. He's a good shooter. He's good at almost everything but great at nothing and while he's polished he's pretty much a finished product. I think of him more as a Spurs type role player than what has the Heat where they are today.
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I believe Saddiq Bay was #4 in the entire NCAA in 3fg% at 45.1% shooting 5.6 3s per game. That falls into my 'lights-out' shooter category. I'd be very happy to have him available at #16 for the Blazers.
 
illmatic99 said:
I don't really mind RJ if they determine he's BPA, although I do think Nesmith and Bey are better fits both positionally and skill wise.

Sorta frail guard under 6'5 who needs the ball in his hands to be effective, highly touted HS prospect, not that great of a defender. Sounds familiar.
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Not the highly touted HS prospect part
 
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