OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JANUARY 2025

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RonBrewer said:
This podcast and these Heat fans are getting exactly what they deserve. All of these chumps were dogging Blazer Brass for not taking the shitty Miami deal. Butler too, he was tampering. I'm absolutely elated watching these clowns backpedal fast than Michael Jackson

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THE HCP said:
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Dude refuses to use his talent and skill in the most obvious ways to meaningfully increase his team's chance of winning games.

He's almost always the quickest and strongest big guy on the court but never seeks out contact, hell he rarely takes the ball to the rim unless it's served to him as a lob.

He rebounds really well and has a lot of different ways to score in the high post but if he doesn't keep opponents honest by taking it to the hole at least half of the time then his size, quickness and strength are nullified and it makes him way too easy to defend.

I also think the guy has the timing and athleticism to be a rim protector but he honestly looks like he is choosing to be a shot alterer instead of a shot blocker, even though he does seem to get enjoyment out of a good block... he stood there flexing for like a full minute last night after a rejection... that he's probably capable of doing like 3 times a game but chooses not to.
 
speaking of Miami and Butler

if the Heat have a trade lined up, does anybody doubt that Pat Riley will deliberately wait till the last minute because he's hoping it will block trades as teams wait and see what happens with Butler?
 
THE HCP said:
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Probably because he can make his free throws, unlike many 7-footers....in history. 76% for his career.
You never hear a "hack an Ayton" strategy.

I appreciate his mid-range game. Cuts down on turnovers. Hate watching centers try to put the ball on the floor and try to attack the basket, only to lose the ball, or get fouled and miss their FTs.
 
wizenheimer said:
speaking of Miami and Butler

if the Heat have a trade lined up, does anybody doubt that Pat Riley will deliberately wait till the last minute because he's hoping it will block trades as teams wait and see what happens with Butler?
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He will try, but teams have trades lined up and have a drop dead date for Miami to execute the trade. Other trades, such as hopefully Portland will move on around 72 hours before the deadline.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Probably because he can make his free throws, unlike many 7-footers....in history. 76% for his career.
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I absolutely guarantee there's no team that's changing their defensive strategy because Ayton is decent from the free throw line. Especially when he's around 62% this year. If lesser offensive threats like Onyeka Okongwu, or centers with far superior outside games like Myles Turner, can draw free throws while shooting 75%+ from the line, there's no reason Ayton couldn't, if he made any effort to do so.
 
I mean, if Ayton gave a single shit he'd be a top 15 player in the league. Last night was an example of what he can do when he actually cares. Put Toumani's brain in Ayton's body and you'd have Patrick Ewing.
 
blazerkor said:
Dude refuses to use his talent and skill in the most obvious ways to meaningfully increase his team's chance of winning games.

He's almost always the quickest and strongest big guy on the court but never seeks out contact, hell he rarely takes the ball to the rim unless it's served to him as a lob.

He rebounds really well and has a lot of different ways to score in the high post but if he doesn't keep opponents honest by taking it to the hole at least half of the time then his size, quickness and strength are nullified and it makes him way too easy to defend.

I also think the guy has the timing and athleticism to be a rim protector but he honestly looks like he is choosing to be a shot alterer instead of a shot blocker, even though he does seem to get enjoyment out of a good block... he stood there flexing for like a full minute last night after a rejection... that he's probably capable of doing like 3 times a game but chooses not to.
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the differential between what Ayton should be able to do, and what he actually does has to be, by far, the largest differential for any big man in the league

he has no want-to in his game unless it's for wanting to chuck up jumpers
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I absolutely guarantee there's no team that's changing their defensive strategy because Ayton is decent from the free throw line. Especially when he's around 62% this year. If lesser offensive threats like Onyeka Okongwu, or centers with far superior outside games like Myles Turner, can draw free throws while shooting 75%+ from the line, there's no reason Ayton couldn't, if he made any effort to do so.
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I don't get why it is so important to you guys. He is shooting the ball in the paint. He is making his shots in the paint. The fact he does not get fouled is not that important to me. What is important is that he is not committing stupid ass turnovers while trying to get fouled. Nurk drove me fucking crazy with his offensive fouls in crunch time.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I don't get why it is so important to you guys. He is shooting the ball in the paint. He is making his shots in the paint. The fact he does not get fouled is not that important to me. What is important is that he is not committing stupid ass turnovers while trying to get fouled. Nurk drove me fucking crazy with his offensive fouls in crunch time.
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so, you're saying that you don't get why things that matter to us, but don't matter to you, matter to us
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I don't get why it is so important to you guys. He is shooting the ball in the paint. He is making his shots in the paint. The fact he does not get fouled is not that important to me. What is important is that he is not committing stupid ass turnovers while trying to get fouled. Nurk drove me fucking crazy with his offensive fouls in crunch time.
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Yeah, wasn't Ayton leading the league in hook shots made a couple weeks ago? You can't do that while avoiding the paint and/or contact. Sure, his motor is inconsistent at best, but some peoples' perception of him is really out of whack.
 
wizenheimer said:
speaking of Miami and Butler

if the Heat have a trade lined up, does anybody doubt that Pat Riley will deliberately wait till the last minute because he's hoping it will block trades as teams wait and see what happens with Butler?
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Maybe will bite him in the ass if other team does a different move. 36 yr old
Butler on his max deal isn't a top asset.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I don't get why it is so important to you guys. He is shooting the ball in the paint. He is making his shots in the paint. The fact he does not get fouled is not that important to me. What is important is that he is not committing stupid ass turnovers while trying to get fouled. Nurk drove me fucking crazy with his offensive fouls in crunch time.
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Ayton defense bugs me the most.

Also his contract and entitlement to minutes. If he was playing 20mpg backing up Clingan I'd be fine with him.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Ayton defense bugs me the most.

Also his contract and entitlement to minutes. If he was playing 20mpg backing up Clingan I'd be fine with him.
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When Clingan can play 28 minutes every game without getting hurt then do it. I think 24-24 minutes works just fine. Unless one is having a great game then play that person more. His contract does not entitle him to anything. Not sure why fans are so hung up on it. Make them earn their minutes.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
When Clingan can play 28 minutes every game without getting hurt then do it. I think 24-24 minutes works just fine. Unless one is having a great game then play that person more. His contract does not entitle him to anything. Not sure why fans are so hung up on it. Make them earn their minutes.
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Scoot did earn his minutes. Then he got benched.

Grant earned a backup role but he hasn't been put there.

If the young guys need to earn their roles - the same should apply to vets.
 
THE HCP said:
My second REMIX game ever. Fun to watch these guys. A lot of Blazers there, so I'm sure these guys were trying to impress.
In the house, 3 or 4 assistants, Cronin and his staff and Coach Billups. Wish these guys got more support from the community.
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If the Blazers were winning I think there's be a lot more support. Fans have probably felt like the main team is a Gleague team a lot these last 4 years.
 
handiman said:
Yeah, wasn't Ayton leading the league in hook shots made a couple weeks ago? You can't do that while avoiding the paint and/or contact. Sure, his motor is inconsistent at best, but some peoples' perception of him is really out of whack.
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Ayton’s hook shot is money. I think if a team made him the #1 option, he could average 30ppg.
 
KingSpeed said:
Ayton’s hook shot is money. I think if a team made him the #1 option, he could average 30ppg.
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Great idea.

Of course, only question is if Ayton would get two MVP or three.

You know we can sign Ayton to a max extension this summer. Maybe we should pay him 200 million? Don't want to lose such a great asset for nothing.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Great idea.

Of course, only question is if Ayton would get two MVP or three.

You know we can sign Ayton to a max extension this summer. Maybe we should pay him 200 million? Don't want to lose such a great asset for nothing.
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Think of the trade value. We could get a superstar, or at least 2 stars for him....
 
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