OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JULY 2023

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twobullz said:
Mark Jackson and Van Gundy out at ESPN replaced by Doris Burke and Doc Rivers. Not sure I will miss either of them.
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I think this is a significant downgrade.
If I'm ranking the 4, I'd put them in this order.

Van Gundy
Doc Rivers
Mark Jackson
Doris Burke
 
twobullz said:
Mark Jackson and Van Gundy out at ESPN replaced by Doris Burke and Doc Rivers. Not sure I will miss either of them.
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Both Burke and Jackson are extremely knowledgeable, but their voices put me to sleep. Van Gundy had his moments, but I won't miss him either. Doc was good back in the day, we will see if he still is.
 
wizenheimer said:
if you made $75,000/year, it would only take you 4,053 years to earn the same amount as Jaylen Brown's new contract

if you made $125,000/year, it would only take you 2,453 years to earn the same amount as Jaylen Brown's new contract
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KingSpeed said:
The work they put in to become one of the 450 basketball players in the world is hard. I think they earn every cent.
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handiman said:
No harder than that of the elites in most other sports who are paid a tiny fraction as much as NBA'ers.
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wizenheimer said:
oh for chrissakes....GTFO

"earn" is not a merit based term. It's just a simple descriptive. They are paid these millions, so they obviously earn them. There's no gauge other than the number on the paycheck

do they deserve that much money for what they do compared to everybody else? FUCK NO THEY DON'T

if you have a leaking pipe in your ceiling tell me if Russell Westbrook is worth 500 times more than a plumber. If your 12 year old daughter's appendix bursts on a camping trip, try and say that Kyrie Irving is worth 500 times more than a paramedic or that Stephen Curry is worth 400 times more than the nearest surgeon

I don't really care how much money these guys make, I have no skin in the game. But I'm sure not so blind to suggest the salaries aren't insanely excessive, because they sure as hell are
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blazerkor said:
It actually comes down to specialization and demand. These guys do something that is in demand and they do it better than anyone else on earth. It is not necessary for our society to function so I see why you would ascribe more worth to a plumber or even more worth than that to a first responder, or even more to a surgeon that save lives at the most complex of levels. That being said there are just far more people capable of doing those things at acceptable levels, even at levels of excellence.

There are just under a hundred athletes that actually have a net worth of one hundred million dollars. There are over twenty-four thousand people in the world with a net worth of at least one hundred million dollars.

Wealth disparity at the level we have it in this global economy makes me sick but the representation of athletics and other forms of entertainment in that system isn't close to as sickening for me because most people really find joy and therefore extreme value in the highest levels of entertainment.
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tlongII said:
Hey if someone is willing to pay you then you deserve it lol.
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KingSpeed said:
I think they deserve them too. NBA makes a lot of money. They deserve their share.
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e_blazer said:
“Deserve” is a word that implies that a person’s income should be based on the value of a their contribution to societal needs. Obviously, that’s not the way it works with respect to high income earners. Their salaries are based on how much money they can make for the owners of the company they work for. Suit up plumbers or emergency workers to play in the NBA and nobody is going to pay to see the games or watch broadcasts of them. Even journeymen NBA players are highly skilled at their craft compared with average citizens. Those guys make good money for the few years that they’re good enough to play at an NBA level, but far less than the stars who actually have the athletic brilliance to make a difference in who wins or loses and who amaze and entertain the fans. They “deserve” the crazy salaries they make because they make the league massive amounts of money. And, if somehow the money they make could be reduced to a more pedestrian level, I don’t see any social benefit in the billionaire owners pocketing the saved money.
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NBA player salaries are based on a 50/50 revenue split with the owners.

So yes, the players not only have earned that, they deserve that.

The league markets players, not owners. I've yet to see a Jody Allen jersey for sale.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
NBA player salaries are based on a 50/50 revenue split with the owners.

So yes, the players not only have earned that, they deserve that.

The league markets players, not owners. I've yet to see a Jody Allen jersey for sale.
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If she had a jersey the number would be 20.1 billion!
 
Kell said:
Doris is so hard to listen to especially with how she fixates on a specific player and will only talk about them during said game…. I feel bad for the finals if it’s a favored matchup for one team.
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Isn't Doris usually color commentary? Who is doing the play by play?
 
twobullz said:
Mark Jackson and Van Gundy out at ESPN replaced by Doris Burke and Doc Rivers. Not sure I will miss either of them.
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Mark isn’t out. He’s just not doing the NBA Finals anymore. He’ll be on the B team. JVG was fired.
 
KingSpeed said:
Mark isn’t out. He’s just not doing the NBA Finals anymore. He’ll be on the B team. JVG was fired.
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I know it doesn't have a check mark but by everything I can find this is Jackson's official account.
 
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