OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JUNE 2023

[wizenheimer]

I personally don't think it will have the impact that the NBA is hoping for.

I also don't think he understands the aggregating salary restriction correctly.... I believe the restriction only impacts the Suns (or team over the second apron) from aggregating (ie- combining Ayton + Payne for Embiid).

He stated that Suns could not trade Ayton for multiple players (ie - Nurk + Little + Walker), which I think is incorrect...

isn't the 2nd apron being phased in over 2-3 years?

I thought the NBA decided to give teams a full year to adjust their payrolls

 

[Natebishop3]

the Suns payroll, next season, after the trade:

Kevin Durant $47,649,433
Bradley Beal $46,741,590
Devin Booker $36,016,200
Deandre Ayton $32,459,438
Cameron Payne $6,500,000

(and I'm not sure Payne is still on the team)

if Payne is still on the roster the Suns have 169.4M in guarantees for 5 players. 169M will be a bit above the first apron

they have to add 9 players. They have a 2nd round pick so that would bump them over 170M and they'd have to add 8 more players. A veteran minimum salary will be around 1.9M next season

the Suns are in a really wild place right now. The owner didn't obey the first rule of holes and now he has to keep digging

I think Ayton is gone. They have to move him to bolster their bench. I just would not be surprised if we are the ones who help them out.

 

[inconceivable]

Even local suns writers hate the trade

"Right now, I’m struggling with the reality that the Suns swapped an aging, expensive, injury-prone point guard, for a younger, more expensive, injury-prone combo guard.

I just don’t see how it’s going to work."

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[inconceivable]

I think Ayton is gone. They have to move him to bolster their bench. I just would not be surprised if we are the ones who help them out.

Yeah, I think they need to break Ayton up into 2-3 capable defensive players at various positions, including Center. .

Currently PHX is 163M in Salary for 2023 with just KD,Book,Beal,Ayt. . Minimums rest of the way

I am not so hot on Ayton because of his contract

 

[Samuel]

I wish we could be a market where there is no reason involved when it comes to acquiring players.

 

[wizenheimer]

I think Ayton is gone. They have to move him to bolster their bench. I just would not be surprised if we are the ones who help them out.

that all could be true. But if they are landing 2 or 3 players for Ayton it probably won't do much to mitigate their cap/tax/apron hell.

Ayton has an extremely bloated contract in my view. I'd be disappointed if the Blazers were the ones paying it

 

[Natebishop3]

it probably won't do much to mitigate their cap/tax/apron hell.

This is true, but right now they probably can't afford to have $30 million tied up in one player.

If they could turn that 30 million into 2-3 rotation players, that would help their depth a bit.

 

[Predator]

Draymond officially on the market

 

[wizenheimer]

This is true, but right now they probably can't afford to have $30 million tied up in one player.

If they could turn that 30 million into 2-3 rotation players, that would help their depth a bit.

sure it would help. The problem would be landing those 2 or 3 rotation players. Rotational players aren't just falling out of the sky

for instance, you mentioned Ayton-->PDX. So then Nurkic + Little + Keon. Well, at most there's only 2 rotational players there and one, Little, is a back end of any rotation player. Furthermore Nurkic and Little are major injury-magnets who would be joining noted injury magnets Durant and Beal. And if you study Booker's history a little, it sure looks like he's not that durable

the Sun's are way out on in the middle of the pond on the thinnest ice any team can rest on

 

[Natebishop3]

sure it would help. The problem would be landing those 2 or 3 rotation players. Rotational players aren't just falling out of the sky

for instance, you mentioned Ayton-->PDX. So then Nurkic + Little + Keon. Well, at most there's only 2 rotational players there and one, Little, is a back end of any rotation player. Furthermore Nurkic and Little are major injury-magnets who would be joining noted injury magnets Durant and Beal. And if you study Booker's history a little, it sure looks like he's not that durable

the Sun's are way out on in the middle of the pond on the thinnest ice any team can rest on

Yeah, I think that trade you mentioned or something similar from another team. I think they're going to find a taker though.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

the Sun's are way out on in the middle of the pond on the thinnest ice any team can rest on

Agree on this.
Injuries have a couple of effects on teams. Not only do they lose that player for the time that he is recovering but the other starters must make up the difference and that sometimes causes more wear and tear on the other starters thus causing more injuries. They don't have the depth as it stands to compete well with a couple guys hurt or doing minutes restrictions. Even of those guys are backups that are supposed to be getting 15-20 mins a night.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

 

[RonBrewer]

So then you should never post any opinion on anything… I thought that’s what forums where for.

Calm down rook.

 

[RonBrewer]

Draymond officially on the market

Hated him his whole career. That said, i hope we make a strong run at him

 

[Chris Craig]

Tell me we aren't trading for Ben Simmons lol.

 

[B-Roy]

Hated him his whole career. That said, i hope we make a strong run at him

With what capspace?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Tell me we aren't trading for Ben Simmons lol.

I think he is alluding to Phoenix ( when the Nets tried to get a dream team.....and it did not work)

 

[RonBrewer]

With what capspace?

I dunno. That's not up to me to figure out. If not doable then what do i know. I just think he's got a couple more years where he could really help a team. I think J Walker will become Draymond like

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I think the Top 3 suitors for Green no order are

Suns , Heat and Lakers -- basically the usual suspects but I would not count out the Blazers IF they can pull off a big trade or two and not to mention the relationship between Dame and Green. I do think it's a longshot he becomes a Blazer but I would not rule it out either.

 

[wizenheimer]

Tell me we aren't trading for Ben Simmons lol.

pretty sure he's referring to durant/brooklyn---durant/phoenix

 

[THE HCP]

Nurk is in NO position to crack in ANYBODY about ANYTHING.

 

[tykendo]

I dunno. That's not up to me to figure out. If not doable then what do i know. I just think he's got a couple more years where he could really help a team. I think J Walker will become Draymond like

Hey if the Suns can have 5 guys , with a total guaranteed combined salary of 170 mil , and somehow be able to put 10 other guys around them, and have the Nat'l Media drool over it, then surely the Blazers can add Green , while adding other talent through trades. The NBA CAP seems to have become irrelevant with teams like Golden State and Phoenix. Circumvent and Rejoice.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Pat trying to drive up Herro's value:

 

[Natebishop3]

Pat trying to drive up Herro's value:

I thought the same thing.

Nobody seems to say anything publicly without some kind of agenda right now.

 

[wizenheimer]

like I said...it's a bullshit tsunami smashing into all NBA coastlines. Head for high ground

 

[Irish Trader]

Washington Wizards forward Kyle Kuzma has declined his $13 million player option and will become a free agent, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski on Tuesday.

 

[KingSpeed]

Wow

 

[Irish Trader]

Wow

He is very good but the joker is the straw that stirs the drink. Speaking of drink I think Paul Pierce had a drink before making that statement.

 

[Blazinaway]

Interesting that Gary Trent opted in with Raptors for 23/24 at about 18.5 mil