OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JUNE 2023

[wizenheimer]

the Phoenix owner is reminding me of Mikhail Prokhorov who bought the Nets and immediately started making terrible trades for aging players

and people asking why the Wizards would do this deal need to look at salary. This trade will save them 90M over the Miami offer

 

[inconceivable]

They traded Beal for nothing. I know they are starting over but WTF?

All about getting out of his contract

 

[TBpup]

They traded Beal for nothing. I know they are starting over but WTF?

They will get a better deal for KP.

 

[DDolla]

Dumb Question … How can the Suns afford 3 max players?

 

[wizenheimer]

Dumb Question … How can the Suns afford 3 max players?

dumb answer to dumb question is dumb owner

 

[Samuel]

They will get a better deal for KP.

Maybe slightly. Not a huge market for bigs, he’ll make $36m after his opt-in, and he’ll only have one year remaining before he hits free agency.

actually I bet he would get similar to what Grant got last year: a late first and a 2nd or two.

remember that earlier on he merely fetched Spencer Dinwiddie and Davis Bertans—quite a meh return.

 

[Dom McBlazer]

They did really try to get him, PHX just had a Beal relative or agent relative as an Executive.

Oh I know lol. I'm just poking fun at those who said that Butler will land in MIA are now saying Beal will land in MIA.

 

[Tince]

Did the Blazers get more for CJ than Washington got for Beal?

 

[RR7]

Did the Blazers get more for CJ than Washington got for Beal?

Easily

 

[Natebishop3]

He had a NTC and they got out from his contract. Seems like a win to me.

 

[Tince]

Easily

But I heard it was one of the most lopsided trades in the history of the NBA, no?

 

[Natebishop3]

But I heard it was one of the most lopsided trades in the history of the NBA, no?

CJ didn’t have a NTC.

 

[Pinwheel1]

He had a NTC and they got out from his contract. Seems like a win to me.

So did Beal turn down the Miami offer?

 

[blazerkor]

Blazers have ZERO chance to beat the Suns.

Anyone acting like they know what our team is going to look like when this upcoming season starts is pretty hard to take seriously.

 

[Gronk_Brady]

Anyone acting like they know what our team is going to look like when this upcoming season starts is pretty hard to take seriously.

So then you should never post any opinion on anything… I thought that’s what forums where for.

 

[Tince]

CJ didn’t have a NTC.

Thanks goodness he wasn't eligible for one, or else Olshey likely would've given him that as well.

 

[Tince]

So then you should never post any opinion on anything… I thought that’s what forums where for.

Your post read more of a statement of fact than an opnion

 

[Gronk_Brady]

Your post read more of a statement of fact than an opnion

Like 90% of posts in here read as more of a statement of fact… so everyone should include IMO at the end of every post?

 

[blazerkor]

So then you should never post any opinion on anything… I thought that’s what forums where for.

Posting with certainty that we can't possibly put a team together that can beat the Suns is different than theorizing that it would be difficult for us to do that when we haven't even seen one move from a team that has been saying that they are going to try to make major moves and have major pieces to make those moves with. Go ahead and post your absolutes, forums are a great place to show your capacity to think with an open mind or show that you'd rather pigeon hole everything.

We very well may suck next season because Joe panics and makes bad moves to try and placate Dame. We may be at the beginning of a youth rebuild. Cronin could also pull off two or maybe even three really great trades, a couple of solid re-signings and one great role player signing with the TPMLE and that could make us a lot better than the Suns especially if Cronin pays attention to roster construction with an eye towards complementary pieces and not just stacking talent on top of itself that may not be as great as the sum of its parts.

 

[Tince]

Like 90% of posts in here read as more of a statement of fact… so everyone should include IMO at the end of every post?

I don't believe 90% of posts read as a statement of fact.

You can include IMO if you want. Or you can be ok people questioning your posts that read as statements.

 

[inconceivable]

Great trades benefit both teams. Often, one get the better end than another. This Suns/Wizards trade seems to make both worse

 

[Dom McBlazer]

Talk about the Suns better hope this works. Sheesh...

 

[inconceivable]

Talk about the Suns better hope this works. Sheesh...

Just watched this. If I were a Suns fan, I wouldn't be excited, I'd be mad.

 

[Chris Craig]

Talk about the Suns better hope this works. Sheesh...

They have to hope a bunch of coattail riders come for the minimum.

 

[julius]

Talk about the Suns better hope this works. Sheesh...

The draft pick issues could be harsh.

but the results of the trade seems to indicate that this was done by someone who doesn't know how the CBA works or how an NBA team should be constructed.

 

[wizenheimer]

the Suns payroll, next season, after the trade:

Kevin Durant $47,649,433
Bradley Beal $46,741,590
Devin Booker $36,016,200
Deandre Ayton $32,459,438
Cameron Payne $6,500,000

(and I'm not sure Payne is still on the team)

if Payne is still on the roster the Suns have 169.4M in guarantees for 5 players. 169M will be a bit above the first apron

they have to add 9 players. They have a 2nd round pick so that would bump them over 170M and they'd have to add 8 more players. A veteran minimum salary will be around 1.9M next season

the Suns are in a really wild place right now. The owner didn't obey the first rule of holes and now he has to keep digging

 

[wizenheimer]

The draft pick issues could be harsh.

but the results of the trade seems to indicate that this was done by someone who doesn't know how the CBA works or how an NBA team should be constructed.

Olshey must be the shadow GM

 

[HansenYang]

Talk about the Suns better hope this works. Sheesh...

I personally don't think it will have the impact that the NBA is hoping for.

I also don't think he understands the aggregating salary restriction correctly.... I believe the restriction only impacts the Suns (or team over the second apron) from aggregating (ie- combining Ayton + Payne for Embiid).

He stated that Suns could not trade Ayton for multiple players (ie - Nurk + Little + Walker), which I think is incorrect...

 

[THE HCP]

Like 90% of posts in here read as more of a statement of fact… so everyone should include IMO at the end of every post?

You are asking WAY too many questions.

 

[THE HCP]

They have to hope a bunch of coattail riders come for the minimum.

Oh they will be turning vets away. Other players would love to be a part of that roster.